School me on the AR15 & bump stock.

[fishngamereaper]

Why the hate on olive drab and fun switch on an auto...I enjoy the fun switch, and sometimes wear olive drab....

Never had a use for a bump stock but it's going to be a snowball effect... which reminds me I need to buy some more 30rnd mags.

[hunter399]

I'm pretty sure no grandfather laws it will be illegal to buy,sell,or own one by 2019.

[Biggerhammer]

I quoted Alchase, yell at him for partially quoting you.

Haha! Who's yelling? Thought my 10 year old daughter was the only one being sensative this evening.

[hunter399]

I need to read the proposed law I guess.  If you buy one before they are banned, will it be illegal to own it after the ban is initiated?  Or will they be grandfathered in?

From the way I read it no grandfather law,felony offence,same charge as having a machine gun,short barrel rifle or shotgun,any gun that has a bump fire stock on it will be confiscated too.

You can read it here I may be wrong.

http://apps2.leg.wa.gov/billsummary?BillNumber=5992&Year=2017&BillNumber=5992&Year=2017

[KFhunter]

ya, it's pretty serious.

I think it'll fail a constitutional challenge per previous SCOTUS rulings but who wants to go first?

[Biggerhammer]

ya, it's pretty serious.

I think it'll fail a constitutional challenge per previous SCOTUS rulings but who wants to go first?

If one wants to go down that road. Best have some deep pockets.😃

[magnanimous_j]

It's been ruined by "mall ninja's" but it's still a legal concept in our constitution.

Real talk. If we, as mature responsible adults want to have access to high power weaponry, we have to police ourselves. That's the only way it works.

The gun industry has made one terrible error. It aligned itself with entertainment. The .44 mag was silly nonsense until Dirty Harry made it famous. The Desert Eagle was silly nonsense until a hundred movies made it the ultimate hand cannon. The gun shop I bought my first few guns was decorated wall to wall with movie posters of muscular heroes holding very specific, available guns. It got worse post 2000, when actual weapon manufacturers started sponsoring video games like Nikon sponsoring a movie about photographers. 

Don't get me wrong. I'm a gamer. I've shot hundreds of thousands of digital Nazis right in their stupid Nazi faces. I love violent video games and I'll never stop playing them. But actual weapon manufacturers sponsor these games, and advertise within them, that's insane.

Let's get real. The more antisocial, pre-diabetic yahoos who can walk in off the street and buy AR's... It's only a matter of time before we lose them too.

[Alchase]

It's been ruined by "mall ninja's" but it's still a legal concept in our constitution.

Real talk. If we, as mature responsible adults want to have access to high power weaponry, we have to police ourselves. That's the only way it works.

The gun industry has made one terrible error. It aligned itself with entertainment. The .44 mag was silly nonsense until Dirty Harry made it famous. The Desert Eagle was silly nonsense until a hundred movies made it the ultimate hand cannon. The gun shop I bought my first few guns was decorated wall to wall with movie posters of muscular heroes holding very specific, available guns. It got worse post 2000, when actual weapon manufacturers started sponsoring video games like Nikon sponsoring a movie about photographers. 

Don't get me wrong. I'm a gamer. I've shot hundreds of thousands of digital Nazis right in their stupid Nazi faces. I love violent video games and I'll never stop playing them. But actual weapon manufacturers sponsor these games, and advertise within them, that's insane.

Let's get real. The more antisocial, pre-diabetic yahoos who can walk in off the street and buy AR's... It's only a matter of time before we lose them too.

That is just excuses for one of the two Political party who feels the need to control us smurfs.

If they were honest, they would admit, not one control law they have passed or attempted to pass, would do a dang thing to stop criminals being criminals.

[N7XW]

I need to read the proposed law I guess.  If you buy one before they are banned, will it be illegal to own it after the ban is initiated?  Or will they be grandfathered in?

From the way I read it no grandfather law,felony offence,same charge as having a machine gun,short barrel rifle or shotgun,any gun that has a bump fire stock on it will be confiscated too.

You can read it here I may be wrong.

http://apps2.leg.wa.gov/billsummary?BillNumber=5992&Year=2017&BillNumber=5992&Year=2017

Well if that is the case maybe ill go with a regular ole AR15, no bump stock.  Or just get yet another deer rifle 

[JimmyHoffa]

It's been ruined by "mall ninja's" but it's still a legal concept in our constitution.

Real talk. If we, as mature responsible adults want to have access to high power weaponry, we have to police ourselves. That's the only way it works.

The gun industry has made one terrible error. It aligned itself with entertainment. The .44 mag was silly nonsense until Dirty Harry made it famous. The Desert Eagle was silly nonsense until a hundred movies made it the ultimate hand cannon. The gun shop I bought my first few guns was decorated wall to wall with movie posters of muscular heroes holding very specific, available guns. It got worse post 2000, when actual weapon manufacturers started sponsoring video games like Nikon sponsoring a movie about photographers. 

Don't get me wrong. I'm a gamer. I've shot hundreds of thousands of digital Nazis right in their stupid Nazi faces. I love violent video games and I'll never stop playing them. But actual weapon manufacturers sponsor these games, and advertise within them, that's insane.

Let's get real. The more antisocial, pre-diabetic yahoos who can walk in off the street and buy AR's... It's only a matter of time before we lose them too.

I went with a collector to a Bellevue shop to help pick up a "call of duty" package once.  It was all the guns used in the game.  They were selling out fast because the guys from Microsoft rush in there to buy up anything featured in a game.

[JL]

I can't stand people with logic similar to Magnanimus. IMO, they absolutely distort the intent of the Founding Fathers and eerily disregard what many of my family, friends, and I served for (and swore an oath to protect).

[JL]

And Jimmy, what things have you purchased or "used" because they were made aware to you by an outside source? Anything on this forum? Maybe?

I think it's absolutely distasteful of you to go out of your way to identify people from this company, and basically suggest, they're some relation to these "digital Nazis." Correct me if I'm wrong, but they never went out and did anything illegal to your knowledge, correct? But, now they're weird... because, we are... you know... "real talk" right now.

Most of the guys that I served with overseas, who never came home, were taken out by IED's. Word over there though, was that local insurgents got fired up by all sorts of board games and radio broadcasts focusing on flip phones, wires, and creative ordnance. Give me a break. Get real.

[JeffRaines]

I don't think mags is too far off...

How often do people come on here and complain about idiots at shooting ranges? I've seen it personally, people flagging others, shooting while people are downrange, someone using their scope to glass with... no safe handling whatsoever. I'll say it and rustle some jimmies - these idiots shouldn't be allowed to own firearms. Some people are just too stupid and irresponsible. For some reason, some people can't look in the mirror and admit to themselves that maybe, just maybe they need to take safety more seriously... or maybe they just shouldn't own guns. Then you've got the guys trashing the woods, I guess thats for another discussion...

My point is we're sitting here complaining about how they're trying to pass laws to make it harder to buy a firearm - and trying to stop it... when we've got idiots running around making us look like... idiots. Every person you know that does this is just giving them more ammunition. Same with lands being closed up to public use, every idiot leaving their trash around just makes it worse for the rest of us. I don't really want more government oversight, but I also don't want to risk some retard shooting me. Its a catch 22.

[JL]

Come on Jeff, with that logic we should be discussing driver's licenses and automobiles. How many people have ever been killed unintentionally or intentionally on a shooting range?

[JeffRaines]

We should be! It’s rediculous the amount of idiots on the road today, I’d be all for having to retake your drivers exam every other renewal. Sounds like a fair deal for the privilege of driving 3500lbs of steel around... but that’s another discussion.