Bad Outfitters and what did you do?

[ctwiggs1]

One tip is a outfitter only taking cash is a big RED FLAG.

Not necessarily . I quit taking credit cards when merchant services started taking 5% of each transaction and upped my yearly fee from $80 to $800 . I told them to kiss off. Cash or check only for me. Of course I am a small operation...maybe that is why the stiff fees.

Buck, you need to work with a better bank man! I pay less then half with no annual fee

We used to run 300-500k/year on credit cards at work and we were still shelling out between 2-3% annually.  If I were an outfitter, I would at least charge a fee for credit cards.  There is enough demand in this economy for them to stay busy - why give your margin to the merchant services company?

[dscubame]

Simply a business expense not unlike the many other expenses on the P&L, just charge for the service / product according like all other busineses.

[Netminder01]

One tip is a outfitter only taking cash is a big RED FLAG.

Not necessarily . I quit taking credit cards when merchant services started taking 5% of each transaction and upped my yearly fee from $80 to $800 . I told them to kiss off. Cash or check only for me. Of course I am a small operation...maybe that is why the stiff fees.

Buck, you need to work with a better bank man! I pay less then half with no annual fee

We used to run 300-500k/year on credit cards at work and we were still shelling out between 2-3% annually.  If I were an outfitter, I would at least charge a fee for credit cards.  There is enough demand in this economy for them to stay busy - why give your margin to the merchant services company?

I agree, even as I pack up and come visit you Rick, charges and fees for transactions should be passed on to the purchaser; just like PayPal does it.

The other post on fees - I also agree, they've come down so much due to competing services and generally very friendly to the SMB market. You should really get your website tuned up to accept payments (ahem!!!), one less hassle during the week and more time to spend with your pain in the arse customers from Seattle (ahem!!!).

[baker5150]

One tip is a outfitter only taking cash is a big RED FLAG.

Not necessarily . I quit taking credit cards when merchant services started taking 5% of each transaction and upped my yearly fee from $80 to $800 . I told them to kiss off. Cash or check only for me. Of course I am a small operation...maybe that is why the stiff fees.

Buck, you need to work with a better bank man! I pay less then half with no annual fee

We used to run 300-500k/year on credit cards at work and we were still shelling out between 2-3% annually.  If I were an outfitter, I would at least charge a fee for credit cards.  There is enough demand in this economy for them to stay busy - why give your margin to the merchant services company?

Not accepting Credit Cards is definitely reducing your client pool.  The protection using a cc offers can out way the cost of fees to some people.
Just build the fees into your rates and offer a cash discount to those who inquire. 

[bearpaw]

In Utah outfitters only have to be licensed if they operate on public lands. If they only operate on private lands no outfitter license is needed. They do need a business license so you could contact the state and ask how they can help you? I would think the Utah state business licensing division can offer the best advice on what to do in Utah.

[dscubame]

If anybody took alot of money from me and not return it, I wouldn't pxxxyfoot around. I'd take my rearend down there and get it from him in person.     

 

Internet tough guy meme goes here but mysteriously removed.

[Alaskan]

Appreciate the insight here. Looking at some new strategies with the state licensing board.

[Curly]

Why all the secrecy?  Why not tell the entire story with the name of the outfitter?  Just wondering........

[Hoythunter]

Sorry if I’m a little late to the party but I’ve indeed had the Outfitter from hell!  15 years ago my dad and and I purchased a New Mexico Elk hunt for two via a Rocky Mountain Elk foundation auction.  The hunt was with Non-Typical Outfitters in New Mexico, not to be confused with NTO in Wyoming.  Owner/Outfitters name is Adrian Romero, freely google his name and you’ll get a kick out of other online stories.

Cliff notes: the elk tags and mule deer tags he provided us were counterfeit!  We had no idea.  I got lucky and killed a small 5pt bull, the only elk we saw in 6 days of hunting.  Anyways, after 1 year of my elk rack not showing up I got RMEF involved along with New Mexic F&G.  As it turned out, the guy was a full-blown crook.  He got hammered and spent several years behind bars.  He got the book thrown at him, WAF&G should take notes on how to fully prosecute a criminal like him.  5 years later my antlers showed up on my doorstep via FEDEX.  Never thought I’d ever see them again.

[Skyvalhunter]

Well atleast there was something good to come from a bad situation

[Alaskan]

Curly,

I’m not saying his name on this forum in case it goes to litigation (he needs no more help finding excuses to screw us via libel suite).

I have no problem giving you his name in a private message. Seems like bad people can have numerous ways to use and abuse the law.