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Re: Lion attack in North bend?
« Reply #60 on: May 19, 2018, 05:11:33 PM »
It's just nature's way of reminding people to carry a 10millinator.

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Re: Lion attack in North bend?
« Reply #61 on: May 19, 2018, 05:16:39 PM »
the sad part is I am seeing on FB groups and elsewhere were people are bummed the cougar was hunted down and killed.

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Re: Lion attack in North bend?
« Reply #62 on: May 19, 2018, 05:20:21 PM »
the sad part is I am seeing on FB groups and elsewhere were people are bummed the cougar was hunted down and killed.

Like I said, the sheep don't mind if some of the flock get culled out once in a while, they go on grazing like nothing happened.

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Re: Lion attack in North bend?
« Reply #63 on: May 19, 2018, 05:46:26 PM »
The one in the game cam video looks like a healthy female - hard to tell by that waddle if its excess skin. Small head..hmm guessing she is still carrying kittens.
bearpaw - chime in. 

Ahh- never mind- that game cam video was from 3 weeks ago - same area. No telling if its the same cat.

They were riding road bikes (on trails?)  down a gravel road - saw it was following. They did what is expected at first, swung the bikes at it and chased it off initially. When they were catching their breath wondering what just happened - it came back. Grabbed the one guy by the head, then his friend took off. Cat chased and caught the second guy & drug him off the road...
First guy (whose head was in the cats jaws) took off and called 911. Dam lucky...incredibly lucky.  What a catastrophe.


http://komonews.com/news/local/crews-respond-to-mountain-lion-attack-near-north-bend

https://www.king5.com/article/news/local/1-dead-1-injured-in-cougar-attack-near-north-bend/281-555709031
« Last Edit: May 19, 2018, 07:06:39 PM by Windwalker »
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Re: Lion attack in North bend?
« Reply #64 on: May 19, 2018, 05:55:57 PM »
That's a tragedy.   :bash:

The fact that people are sad the cat was killed... :yike:


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Re: Lion attack in North bend?
« Reply #65 on: May 19, 2018, 05:56:35 PM »
To the people that think that a hand gun would have saved these guys:

-Yes, cougars sometimes follow you for long distances, but generally they are ambush predators.

-These guys were mountain biking, while I am pretty sure none of us actually know how they were initially attacked, there is a very good chance that drawing a gun while going down a trail at a fast pace riding a bike is unlikely to have been a reasonable countermeasure if they even saw it before they were hit.
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Re: Lion attack in North bend?
« Reply #66 on: May 19, 2018, 06:05:44 PM »
Sad. BUT, if this happened to 2 liberal politicians, I bet things would change.

You guys in Washington need to start pushing for more predator management...

Alway pack a gun
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Re: Lion attack in North bend?
« Reply #67 on: May 19, 2018, 06:35:30 PM »
By Erik Lacitis
Seattle Times staff reporter
One man was killed and another taken to Harborview Medical Center after they were attacked by a cougar while riding bicycles around 11 a.m. Saturday in the woods in the Snoqualmie-North Bend area, said the King County Sheriff’s Office.

Using a hound-dog tracker, agents for the state’s Fish & Wildlife Police shot and killed the cougar a little before 3 p.m., said Capt. Alan Myers, with the agency.

This was just the second fatal cougar attack in the state in the last 100 years, according to the Washington Department of Fish & Wildlife (WDFW). Fifteen others, before Saturday, were nonfatal.

The injured man, 31, called for help on his cellphone, said Sgt. Ryan Abbott of the Sheriff’s Office. He was initially listed in serious condition at Harborview, but by late afternoon was upgraded to satisfactory.

Abbott said the attack took place near North Fork Road Southeast and Lake Hancock Road, a Snoqualmie address.

The hours after the attack dragged on as responders waited for word that wildlife agents had killed the cougar, and they could go and retrieve the dead man’s body.

“We have a manual, and we go step by step, said Rich Beausoleil, the state’s bear and cougar specialist.

“When we do catch an animal, we need to know we caught the right animal,” he said.

That includes collecting DNA from the killed cougar and making sure it matches DNA from the victims.

Finally, nearly five hours after the attack, the hounds found the cougar.

When he first heard about the cougar attack, said Beausoleil, “My grief is with the victim.”

He said that “it’s hard to say” what the public’s reaction will be to the incident. “It’s such a personal thing. Some people will recognize the rarity of it.”

In the 94 years since the last fatal mauling, the state has recorded 18 incidents it classifies as cougar attacks, with 40 percent considered serious, such as requiring stitches.

Most take place in summer and fall, when people are alone in the woods while walking, jogging or biking, and have a surprise encounter, according to the agency.

Cougars, also known as mountain lions and pumas, are a protected species, said Beausoleil. Each year, the state allows 250 cougars to be hunted and killed in 50 designated zones.

There are 2,100 cougars labeled as “independent” in this state, meaning they’re kittens dependent on their mothers.

That population has been stable for the 15 years he’s been with the agency, said Beausoleil.

He said that cougars are territorial, and so limit their own population growth to about two cougars per 100 square kilometers, or 39 square miles. That would have four cougars in land about the size of Seattle.

Emotions can run high after a report such as today’s.

“Hopefully, nobody will break the law,” said Beausoleil.

Cougar attacks are so rare that in all of North Amererica in the last 100 years, roughly 25 fatalities and 95 nonfatal attacks have been reported, according to WDFW. More have been reported in the Western United States and Canada over the past 20 years than in the previous 80 years.

The agency says a high percentage of cougars attacking domestic animals or people are 1- to 2-year-old cougars that have become independent of their mothers.

It adds, “When these young animals, particularly males, leave home to search for territory of their own, and encounter territory already occupied by an older male cougar, the older one will drive off the younger one, killing it if it resists. Some young cougars are driven across miles of countryside in search of an unoccupied territory.”

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/eastside/1-dead-1-injured-in-cougar-attack-on-eastside/

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Re: Lion attack in North bend?
« Reply #68 on: May 19, 2018, 06:56:11 PM »
To the people that think that a hand gun would have saved these guys:

-Yes, cougars sometimes follow you for long distances, but generally they are ambush predators.

-These guys were mountain biking, while I am pretty sure none of us actually know how they were initially attacked, there is a very good chance that drawing a gun while going down a trail at a fast pace riding a bike is unlikely to have been a reasonable countermeasure if they even saw it before they were hit.

They were not mt bike riding, the bike they put in the back of the LEO truck was a road bike, road tires, 10 speed style. According to Windwalker they saw it following,  A handgun would definitely helped them in this situation.
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Re: Lion attack in North bend?
« Reply #69 on: May 19, 2018, 07:26:11 PM »

Looks like a dink - 100lbs? Mmm don't think so. Could be the angle of the photo but looks like an easy pack out.
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Re: Lion attack in North bend?
« Reply #70 on: May 19, 2018, 07:44:03 PM »
To the people that think that a hand gun would have saved these guys:

-Yes, cougars sometimes follow you for long distances, but generally they are ambush predators.

-These guys were mountain biking, while I am pretty sure none of us actually know how they were initially attacked, there is a very good chance that drawing a gun while going down a trail at a fast pace riding a bike is unlikely to have been a reasonable countermeasure if they even saw it before they were hit.

A proficient user of a handgun would have done a lot better than these two victims, did you read the story?  They had a standoff with the cat using the bikes as a shield, what a great time to shoot it. 

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Re: Lion attack in North bend?
« Reply #71 on: May 19, 2018, 07:52:46 PM »
You guys jumping directly to relating this to hunting/politics is plain silly. It could be the only cougar left in the state and still have done this under the right ( or wrong) circumstances. Maybe I’d buy it if it was like a once a week or even month thing but come on n guys. Sometimes a tragedy is just a tragedy

You guys are as bad as the left given the right subject matter ...
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Re: Lion attack in North bend?
« Reply #72 on: May 19, 2018, 07:53:03 PM »

Looks like a dink - 100lbs? Mmm don't think so. Could be the angle of the photo but looks like an easy pack out.

Doesn't look like a big cat, almost juvenile.  Prey testing the bicyclers, and then went on with it. 

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Re: Lion attack in North bend?
« Reply #73 on: May 19, 2018, 08:05:01 PM »
Pretty hard to tell how big that cat is in that picture.  :twocents:
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Re: Lion attack in North bend?
« Reply #74 on: May 19, 2018, 08:09:51 PM »
Young male I would say.  Looks not that big.  Teeth are so clean.  Behavior of young male fits the scene.
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