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Wont be long and people will want ebikes allowed in wilderness areas.
Quote from: Jonathan_S on September 22, 2020, 06:58:32 AMQuote from: trophyhunt on September 22, 2020, 06:37:30 AMWell Hawks33, as an atv owner you should have a dog in this fight. How do you like the limited riding places in our state already, they make us buy tabs for what? What's next if they ban a bike that assist the rider a little bit, you don't think ATV's are a bigger problem with how people use them behind gates? I have both, and this myth that an ebike is like a motorcycle is from people who have never ridden one. The bike assist you on your ride, you can just push the throttle and go on flats, but if you go up any steep hills, you have to pedal and they don't last 20 miles like they advertise. I took mine up a 6 mile incline, peddling all the way, and my battery was about 80% dead, it's a brand new 750. I think people that don't own these bikes don't have a clue about them. This is just another example of user groups against each other. If private timber wants to ban all ebikes, that's one thing, but the state banning them on public land is total BS. I know you have seen what horses do to trails, tell me a bike is worse? I'm not wanting to point you out on this at all, my post if for all the ebike haters. If ebikes get banned, maybe horses should too??? And to be clear, I am not for breaking the walk in only rules behind gates, But their are plenty of walk in only gates and gates that you should be able to ride your bike in. Haters hate, some hate rifle, some hate archery for the amount of animals that don't get found and go off and die! Some hate muzzy's with 209 and someday scopes. Lets just keep fighting each other and pretty soon we won't see disabled, or older hunters in the field at all. I'm sure when I was a younger guy I'd hate ebikes too, but as age creeps up slowly, it's nice to work smarter not harder. Last rant, what about our damn rights people? we live in America, we kick azz, we explore, our population is expanding so yeah, there will be more hunters, hikers, anti's , pros...... Get over it, it's a bike with battery, if some guy/gal peddles by you, they could be riding right past that record book blacktail, you never know. Hunting is exploring, and it's a lot of luck, quit friken crying about what others do, unless they are out to take away your damn rights!I don't see anybody "crying" except for the EBike owners I beg to differ Jon, ebikes have always been complained about on this site and others. I just see more damage from other groups and think people don't have a clue about ebikes till they ride one. Also, just to put it out there again, I'm not saying we should ride behind walk in only gates, we should have gates like idaho that keep vehicles out but other uses are welcome.
Quote from: trophyhunt on September 22, 2020, 06:37:30 AMWell Hawks33, as an atv owner you should have a dog in this fight. How do you like the limited riding places in our state already, they make us buy tabs for what? What's next if they ban a bike that assist the rider a little bit, you don't think ATV's are a bigger problem with how people use them behind gates? I have both, and this myth that an ebike is like a motorcycle is from people who have never ridden one. The bike assist you on your ride, you can just push the throttle and go on flats, but if you go up any steep hills, you have to pedal and they don't last 20 miles like they advertise. I took mine up a 6 mile incline, peddling all the way, and my battery was about 80% dead, it's a brand new 750. I think people that don't own these bikes don't have a clue about them. This is just another example of user groups against each other. If private timber wants to ban all ebikes, that's one thing, but the state banning them on public land is total BS. I know you have seen what horses do to trails, tell me a bike is worse? I'm not wanting to point you out on this at all, my post if for all the ebike haters. If ebikes get banned, maybe horses should too??? And to be clear, I am not for breaking the walk in only rules behind gates, But their are plenty of walk in only gates and gates that you should be able to ride your bike in. Haters hate, some hate rifle, some hate archery for the amount of animals that don't get found and go off and die! Some hate muzzy's with 209 and someday scopes. Lets just keep fighting each other and pretty soon we won't see disabled, or older hunters in the field at all. I'm sure when I was a younger guy I'd hate ebikes too, but as age creeps up slowly, it's nice to work smarter not harder. Last rant, what about our damn rights people? we live in America, we kick azz, we explore, our population is expanding so yeah, there will be more hunters, hikers, anti's , pros...... Get over it, it's a bike with battery, if some guy/gal peddles by you, they could be riding right past that record book blacktail, you never know. Hunting is exploring, and it's a lot of luck, quit friken crying about what others do, unless they are out to take away your damn rights!I don't see anybody "crying" except for the EBike owners
Well Hawks33, as an atv owner you should have a dog in this fight. How do you like the limited riding places in our state already, they make us buy tabs for what? What's next if they ban a bike that assist the rider a little bit, you don't think ATV's are a bigger problem with how people use them behind gates? I have both, and this myth that an ebike is like a motorcycle is from people who have never ridden one. The bike assist you on your ride, you can just push the throttle and go on flats, but if you go up any steep hills, you have to pedal and they don't last 20 miles like they advertise. I took mine up a 6 mile incline, peddling all the way, and my battery was about 80% dead, it's a brand new 750. I think people that don't own these bikes don't have a clue about them. This is just another example of user groups against each other. If private timber wants to ban all ebikes, that's one thing, but the state banning them on public land is total BS. I know you have seen what horses do to trails, tell me a bike is worse? I'm not wanting to point you out on this at all, my post if for all the ebike haters. If ebikes get banned, maybe horses should too??? And to be clear, I am not for breaking the walk in only rules behind gates, But their are plenty of walk in only gates and gates that you should be able to ride your bike in. Haters hate, some hate rifle, some hate archery for the amount of animals that don't get found and go off and die! Some hate muzzy's with 209 and someday scopes. Lets just keep fighting each other and pretty soon we won't see disabled, or older hunters in the field at all. I'm sure when I was a younger guy I'd hate ebikes too, but as age creeps up slowly, it's nice to work smarter not harder. Last rant, what about our damn rights people? we live in America, we kick azz, we explore, our population is expanding so yeah, there will be more hunters, hikers, anti's , pros...... Get over it, it's a bike with battery, if some guy/gal peddles by you, they could be riding right past that record book blacktail, you never know. Hunting is exploring, and it's a lot of luck, quit friken crying about what others do, unless they are out to take away your damn rights!
Rather than ban E-bikes, quads, dual sports, etc. etc. etc......wouldn't be easier to just designate "walk in only" areas. If there is a gate on the road post the gate. If there is a trailhead, post the trailhead. Idaho does this and it appears to be working. Some of Idaho's gates only allow horseback or foot traffic, others allow quads uder 50"...and some are open to whatever you want to drive or ride on it. Next thing you know, the same hunting group that hates e-bikes will be wanting to ban equestrian travel. Then it will be gate all roads and only the elite athlete has the right to hunt. Where does it end? For the record, I am not an e-bike owner.
Motor=motorized
Pretty simple to me, it has a motor, it can't go into a non motorized area. Not even sure how this is debatable. If you think it offers no major advantage over a regular bicycle then sell your ebike buy a regular bicycle and be $ ahead. By the way, I'm not anti ebike, I think they're cool as heck.
Never seen a motorized horse myself
Quote from: jrebel on September 22, 2020, 07:47:46 AMRather than ban E-bikes, quads, dual sports, etc. etc. etc......wouldn't be easier to just designate "walk in only" areas. If there is a gate on the road post the gate. If there is a trailhead, post the trailhead. Idaho does this and it appears to be working. Some of Idaho's gates only allow horseback or foot traffic, others allow quads uder 50"...and some are open to whatever you want to drive or ride on it. Next thing you know, the same hunting group that hates e-bikes will be wanting to ban equestrian travel. Then it will be gate all roads and only the elite athlete has the right to hunt. Where does it end? For the record, I am not an e-bike owner. I believe this misses the mark. Horses are not new technology, ebikes are. This is just the process of figuring out where they fit in the scheme of (motorized) travel.
