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Re: Saw a guy packing a pistol getting harassed at Costco
« Reply #30 on: August 30, 2011, 09:58:18 AM »
The exercising of rights in an inflamatory manner do not help protect anything, only encourage those that disagree to try and have those rights further limited.

Well said.  I generally keep my weapon concealed, and I do not carry in Costco since I am aware of their policy prohibiting firearms in their stores.  They have their rights too.  I simply do not shop there any longer. 
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Re: Saw a guy packing a pistol getting harassed at Costco
« Reply #31 on: August 30, 2011, 12:38:23 PM »
The exercising of rights in an inflammatory manner do not help protect anything, only encourage those that disagree to try and have those rights further limited.

Well said.  I generally keep my weapon concealed, and I do not carry in Costco since I am aware of their policy prohibiting firearms in their stores.  They have their rights too.  I simply do not shop there any longer.

If you do not exercise a right because you are afraid some person will be offended, than you have already lost the right. And weakend the Constitution both state and federal.
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Re: Saw a guy packing a pistol getting harassed at Costco
« Reply #32 on: August 30, 2011, 12:46:58 PM »
I disagree.

You may practice a religion that I do not agree with. However, if you choose to represent the religion outside of your own home or place of worship I will be, or not be, offended, angry, outspoken, or whatever depending on how you choose to exercise that right.

To me, it is simply a manner of tact.

Those with great passion sometimes lack tact.

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Re: Saw a guy packing a pistol getting harassed at Costco
« Reply #33 on: August 30, 2011, 12:55:36 PM »
I disagree.

You may practice a religion that I do not agree with. However, if you choose to represent the religion outside of your own home or place of worship I will be, or not be, offended, angry, outspoken, or whatever depending on how you choose to exercise that right.

To me, it is simply a manner of tact.

Those with great passion sometimes lack tact.

As is your right.
People are offended by hunting. It is not a right. Are you going to give it up? Because it offends them.
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Re: Saw a guy packing a pistol getting harassed at Costco
« Reply #34 on: August 30, 2011, 01:01:54 PM »
Nope. What I do is not rub it in anyones face while hunting . I will talk openly about all aspects with those that want to hear but may keep my voice down when discussing the nuances of my favorite skinning knife. I will and do cover my game while transporting but will gladly show the animal if people want to see it.

I have tact...or at least I try.

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Re: Saw a guy packing a pistol getting harassed at Costco
« Reply #35 on: August 30, 2011, 01:03:07 PM »
I can't believe some of you people. Since when is it our duty to walk on eggshells to not offend the easily offended? Screw them. All the people that are so easily offended by what other people are doing while minding their own business, need to wake up and mind their own damn business. I don't need someone else telling me how to go about my life, I'm doing just fine.

With that said, I carry concealed every where I go. I don't carry openly, because I am not well enough versed in the law, to put a LEO in his place if approached. I don't feel I have enough solid information to defend myself at the scene, to not end up arrested. It is not worth it to me to possibly lose my concealed license, just to make a point. I also am not interested in attracting attention from anyone, especially would be bad guys. I would much rather have the element of surprise on my side in the case of an emergency.

I commend those that carry openly, I wish though, that some of them would be a little less brash, because as some of you have said, they are making it worse, not better. I think attitude plays a big role in touchy subjects such as this one.
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Re: Saw a guy packing a pistol getting harassed at Costco
« Reply #36 on: August 30, 2011, 01:07:43 PM »
The brash "screw you" walking on egg shells mindset is what aggravates issues whether it be gun rights, religion, ford vs. chevy, bud vs. micro brew.

However, you state that you carry concealed......easy enough to do....it is the "screw them" attitude that I don't believe furthers anyones cause.

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Re: Saw a guy packing a pistol getting harassed at Costco
« Reply #37 on: August 30, 2011, 01:09:00 PM »
I can't believe some of you people. Since when is it our duty to walk on eggshells to not offend the easily offended? Screw them. All the people that are so easily offended by what other people are doing while minding their own business, need to wake up and mind their own damn business. I don't need someone else telling me how to go about my life, I'm doing just fine.

With that said, I carry concealed every where I go. I don't carry openly, because I am not well enough versed in the law, to put a LEO in his place if approached. I don't feel I have enough solid information to defend myself at the scene, to not end up arrested. It is not worth it to me to possibly lose my concealed license, just to make a point. I also am not interested in attracting attention from anyone, especially would be bad guys. I would much rather have the element of surprise on my side in the case of an emergency.

I commend those that carry openly, I wish though, that some of them would be a little less brash, because as some of you have said, they are making it worse, not better. I think attitude plays a big role in touchy subjects such as this one.

Well said

Every activity has it's good and bad participants.
Exactly my point if I am going about my lawful business it is no ones business but mine or the property owners.
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Re: Saw a guy packing a pistol getting harassed at Costco
« Reply #38 on: August 30, 2011, 01:11:04 PM »
I agree with you 100% on that point Ghost

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Re: Saw a guy packing a pistol getting harassed at Costco
« Reply #39 on: August 30, 2011, 01:24:26 PM »
The brash "screw you" walking on egg shells mindset is what aggravates issues whether it be gun rights, religion, ford vs. chevy, bud vs. micro brew.

However, you state that you carry concealed......easy enough to do....it is the "screw them" attitude that I don't believe furthers anyones cause.

The screw them attitude comes from being tired of being told what to do while minding my own business. I don't ever tell anyone what they should be doing, as long as they are not affecting me, or breaking the law. I expect the same courtesy.

It is the same for any thing that someone else doesn't care for. If I am in the grocery store in my hunting attire, on my way to or from hunting, and someone starts to tell me how wrong I am for hunting. Or when a liberal family member starts to give me grief for carrying concealed. I am polite at first, to try and keep the peace, but if they persist, screw them. I am not here to make others happy. I always am polite and courteous, but if someone wants to screw with me, well they had better be prepared for me to defend myself.

As for open carry, I truly believe in our rights, but I feel that sometimes you should pick your battles and try and remain tactful and courteous. Without being there, it's hard to say what kind of attitude is presented. I do think that sometimes some people use open carry as a way to get attention, and I believe that hurts the cause. There is a time and place for everything, and sometimes better judgement could be used.
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Re: Saw a guy packing a pistol getting harassed at Costco
« Reply #40 on: August 30, 2011, 01:26:18 PM »
"As for open carry, I truly believe in our rights, but I feel that sometimes you should pick your battles and try and remain tactful and courteous. Without being there, it's hard to say what kind of attitude is presented. I do think that sometimes some people use open carry as a way to get attention, and I believe that hurts the cause. There is a time and place for everything, and sometimes better judgement could be used."

I agree with that as well.

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Re: Saw a guy packing a pistol getting harassed at Costco
« Reply #41 on: August 30, 2011, 09:26:51 PM »
I can't believe some of you people. Since when is it our duty to walk on eggshells to not offend the easily offended? Screw them. All the people that are so easily offended by what other people are doing while minding their own business, need to wake up and mind their own damn business. I don't need someone else telling me how to go about my life, I'm doing just fine.

With that said, I carry concealed every where I go. I don't carry openly, because I am not well enough versed in the law, to put a LEO in his place if approached. I don't feel I have enough solid information to defend myself at the scene, to not end up arrested. It is not worth it to me to possibly lose my concealed license, just to make a point. I also am not interested in attracting attention from anyone, especially would be bad guys. I would much rather have the element of surprise on my side in the case of an emergency.

I commend those that carry openly, I wish though, that some of them would be a little less brash, because as some of you have said, they are making it worse, not better. I think attitude plays a big role in touchy subjects such as this one.


If you don't feel well versed enough in the law to not get arrested, why do you take the chance of carrying then?  I'm not trying to degrade you, please don't take this like that.  But, our state law states Open Carry.  You have a CHL and carry concealed, that's your choice and works for you.  What if you're like "Gramps" a couple posts up and your sidearm is accidentally spotted?  What do you do then, when the police show up?  I guess a lot of it has to do with how it's called in......


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Re: Saw a guy packing a pistol getting harassed at Costco
« Reply #42 on: August 31, 2011, 03:24:29 PM »
iusmc2002   this pdf is for you.... Washington gun rights pamphlet    http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/showthread.php?78380-Washington-Gun-Rights-Pamphlet                                                             I Open Carry 24/7 never had a problem. My right. 1 I chose to exercise.  Sorry guys hunting was not the reason the 2nd amendment was ratified. A right not exercised is a right lost.Read some threads on opencarry.org   you are all welcome.. :tup:

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Re: Saw a guy packing a pistol getting harassed at Costco
« Reply #43 on: August 31, 2011, 03:56:42 PM »
the problem I have is I am a University student and cant carry open or concealed on school grounds in fact I cant have guns in my apt because it is university housing, I work in elementary schools I cant even park on school grounds with my weapon concealed in my car.  I have a son another possibility to be at school.  Then trips to the grocery store and bank.  The daily life of the average person is gonna put them in gun on gun off oops find a place park offsite oh crap gun off run in bank, gun on....whew thank god for starbucks.... seriously it is almost impossible in this state to open carry outside of small towns and never going into any businesses.  I honestly would worry about having the cops pull their guns on me if I was open carrying because some people portray a gun as a threat period the mere existence of the gun is enough to freak them out, which is why concealed is the better option.  We have people in law enforcement that dont even understand the issue how is the average citizen supposed to  :dunno:

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Re: Saw a guy packing a pistol getting harassed at Costco
« Reply #44 on: August 31, 2011, 06:56:27 PM »
A group of us open carried on the state capitol grounds last year with no contact with law enforcement. Granted we had a permit to rally on the grounds, but no incidents.
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