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Offline Happy Gilmore

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Another Rescue Chessie Looking for a home
« on: January 23, 2012, 05:38:33 PM »
Young male, purebred from Eastern Wa. This is the 4th dog to show up in rescue from the same breeder. Apparently sells pups real cheap to anyone who has a few hundred bucks in their pocket. My friend and trainer Clayton Evans keeps ending up with dogs from this breeder. I believe the 4th one this year. He had one he trained up and got a Junior hunter title on it in a couple of months before homing out to a hunter.

The dog is currently in Cle Elum with a foster family(also friends of mine). I might try and grab him see how he works with birds for a couple days. Shoot me a note if you are interested or just post up here and I'll reply.

So far, he's been good with a small children, other big dogs and one little dog. He needs some obedience work but, is said to be a happy, healthy and cheerful dog.
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Re: Another Rescue Chessie Looking for a home
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2012, 05:45:30 PM »
Sounds like the breeder needs some boot heels. I just picked up a springer pup from Priest River Rescue Saturday, otherwise I might have been interested.
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Re: Another Rescue Chessie Looking for a home
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2012, 06:00:01 PM »
Without going off on a rant about it...........naw, I just started going off on a rant........delete button there....

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Re: Another Rescue Chessie Looking for a home
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2012, 09:24:30 PM »
Sooooo, still looking for a home?
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Re: Another Rescue Chessie Looking for a home
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2012, 04:57:05 PM »
Well that's what happens when the pups are cheap and perhaps not either raised right or.................. they are not from a strict breeding program with a set goal,It's real easy for anyone to buy a male here,get a female there and start pumping out pups looking for the dream dollars,what they produce could possibly be junk that is unbiddible,lacking natural ability and riddled with genetic defects.I know that myself personally I had to filter through 6 females to find the right one(nit picked them to death),my male was a no brainer but if he sucked there is no way I would have considered him for a stud.I got just exactly what I expected to get, pups that are better than the parents....................... and wouldn't you know it..................still have 3 left of 9,it's a dang good thing I kept 2 back and the bitches owner wanted one,6 easier to find homes for than 9,3 have great homes 2 with FT/Hunters and 1 with a self employed sporting clays shooter / hunter.It's real easy to not dump a dog off to the rescue if the bugger has been bred with a goal/purpose.There is not one dime made in raising a litter of pups if it's done correctly.Money garnered from the sales doesn't even come close to paying half of minimum wage for the time spent.We spent and average of 6 hours per day with my litter from the time they were 4 weeks old,prior to that it was a good 3,handling,fiddling and playing with them,shots wormer,the best feed, outside exposure as a gang,alone and braced in pairs for puppy walks,loading them in the truck and taking them to the pheasant release site to run them as solos and braces.Crate training for political reassignment for 3 weeks per.

  I gave away a pup i bought and I had 950 into to birdaddict on this very board,the dog did not fit my programs criteria,he had an inherited health defect.I got my pup price back,and the dog was 1 1/2 years old and neutered  and had been hunted 2 seasons in South Dakota when I gave him away.The neutering and feed/shots/care for that period of time was a loss,but I  didn't want the potential " YOU SOLD me a Junker phone call later on.


  4 pups in rescue in a years time is........................ unacceptable behavior on the breeders part, in either owner screening or broodstock selection.As I told you at the sportsmans show ................ Every Chessie I've ever been around was a "Natural" field dog that did it their way and did it well.

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Re: Another Rescue Chessie Looking for a home
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2012, 09:20:23 AM »
Very True Ernie. Guys pump out dogs without having litters reserved/sold then, drop them on the Little Nickle for a couple hundred bucks and advertise, "AKC Registered Pups".

AKC registration doesn't mean squat. I'd take an unregistered dog with no nutts who's parents have been tested for EIC, PRA and Hips and elbows are good any day and pay twice as much than getting a certificate to hang on the wall.

I put the bug in my buddies ear again about the English Setter...
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Re: Another Rescue Chessie Looking for a home
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2012, 10:29:39 AM »
Yet another person giving away their Chessie in E. Wa. after only 4 years.....sickens me.

http://refugeforums.com/refuge/showthread.php?t=890261

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Re: Another Rescue Chessie Looking for a home
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2012, 10:55:24 AM »
Aren't Chessies a normally "hard" dog for a first time dog owner or trainer.  I thought I heard that somewhere once.  It makes me sick that people will buy an animal without doing any research on the breed and their temperament.  I had a friend who once got a Akita because they "looked cool" and could not figure out why it kept biting and being aggressive to his little kids.

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Re: Another Rescue Chessie Looking for a home
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2012, 11:45:30 AM »
I wouldn't recommend a Chessie for a first time "dog" owner. They are quite the opposite of hard. They are not subborn. They do not need hard training methods. Usually, exactly the opposite. I've learned the hard way with them that if you make mistakes, they are not forgiving like labs. When you teach them right, usually has to be the first time, they won't forget and they'll excell at whatever it is you want them to do.

I have problems with both of my dogs. Not exactly problems that the average person would see but, problems that negatively affect them in competition. Obviously two different spectrums. I have high standards and try to keep the dogs in that upper spectrum range of working. My own attitude doesn't always benefit my dogs and it is something as a person training a dog needs to recognize. I've found, being honest about what you've done, admitting faults in your training and methods is the biggest asset a person can have. When you can admit that what and how you are doing something is negative towards the training of the dog, then usually, that problem will start to subside and progress can be made.

With that being said, I'm hoping to never become close minded and not see things in the bigger picture. Sometimes my responses to folks sounds harsh although, alot of folks love their dogs as much as I love mine and the answers you "need" to hear aren't always the answers that you want to hear.

I've been trying to swallow my pride in a lot of ways and learn from mistakes.....for me, that isn't always easy but, dog world people are the worst at admitting fault or error. I'm just trying (trying a key word here) to keep learning and not fall into that catagory....
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Re: Another Rescue Chessie Looking for a home
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2012, 03:29:38 PM »
 :yeah:

The problem is, they are tough as nails, yet soft.

Bigger problem is that people don't research the CBR breed.  Someone tells them that they will have the toughest dog on the marsh and they get something which appears to be a cross between a CBR and a draft horse.

I better end this while I am ahead, irresposible breeders bring out the worst in me.

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