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I would like to see it go back to the way it was years ago, permit only statewide!
Nope Permits only statewide for everyone just like it used to be. Everyone makes such a fuss over lions, they think they are killing all the deer. When coyotes kill many more. Yeah there are alot of lions in this state but not as many as the deer and elk hunters make it seem. just my
I don't know if harvest numbers are too high, but I think the wrong cats are getting killed in WA. Boot hunters are killing subadults and females far more regulalry than hound hunters. Aside from hound hunting, I cannot think of a single thing thatnthe WDFW should do differently for cougar management.
Kain,Have him explain what happens if say a quota is 7-9, and they reach 7... and the kills are mostly juvenile cats... will they allow the season to continue after Jan 1st, since the majority was juvenile kills? Dave Ware was questioned about this at our meeting last weekend.Next I'd like to know why GMU 335 which has a very high cougar population has such a low quota? This was brought up by the Cattlemans association member of the GMAC and I don't think he ever got a real answer.
I think this current (proposed plan) is by far the best option we have had since the hound ban. I am not sure where fair-chase got the info about GMU 105 because the plan I was reading has new CMU's (Cougar Management Unit's). 105 would be in Unit 7 Which has a 10 female quota. This would achieve the goal of managing the cougars at a 2007 level. Unit 7 has been overharvested for several years, that is why it produces good. There was a doctoral student who did population analysis of cougars in the northeast, and the population is in a massive sink. If I can find the link I will post it.I believe this method will be ideal for preventing the "source" and "sink" populations they want to avoid. It also allows for better management of cougars in certain areas based more geographical barriers, rather than trying to manage the entire state the same way.Brandon
Quote from: NWWABOWHNTR on February 14, 2012, 06:41:10 PMKain,Have him explain what happens if say a quota is 7-9, and they reach 7... and the kills are mostly juvenile cats... will they allow the season to continue after Jan 1st, since the majority was juvenile kills? Dave Ware was questioned about this at our meeting last weekend.Next I'd like to know why GMU 335 which has a very high cougar population has such a low quota? This was brought up by the Cattlemans association member of the GMAC and I don't think he ever got a real answer. If you kill young cougar or toms you are not impacting the population much. The cougar that really matter are your 3 to 10 year old females, they are the reproductive backbone of the population.
Quote from: luvtohnt on February 14, 2012, 06:33:42 PMI think this current (proposed plan) is by far the best option we have had since the hound ban. I am not sure where fair-chase got the info about GMU 105 because the plan I was reading has new CMU's (Cougar Management Unit's). 105 would be in Unit 7 Which has a 10 female quota. This would achieve the goal of managing the cougars at a 2007 level. Unit 7 has been overharvested for several years, that is why it produces good. There was a doctoral student who did population analysis of cougars in the northeast, and the population is in a massive sink. If I can find the link I will post it.I believe this method will be ideal for preventing the "source" and "sink" populations they want to avoid. It also allows for better management of cougars in certain areas based more geographical barriers, rather than trying to manage the entire state the same way.BrandonBrandon where did you get that info. The proposal they released that I saw said 2 cougar for GMU 105.
If you kill young cougar or toms you are not impacting the population much. The cougar that really matter are your 3 to 10 year old females, they are the reproductive backbone of the population.