Post by: bare.hunter on May 26, 2013, 09:47:58 AM
Post by: jackelope on May 26, 2013, 09:50:52 AM
Post by: bare.hunter on May 26, 2013, 10:07:46 AM
How do you know it was him?of the three people that went up the trail he spent the most time the other where there less that 3 minute he was there for more time.I cant prove it was him but it make more sence than the others.
Post by: bare.hunter on May 26, 2013, 10:12:22 AM
Post by: bare.hunter on May 26, 2013, 10:16:00 AM
Post by: bare.hunter on May 26, 2013, 10:20:02 AM
Post by: oldleclercrd on May 26, 2013, 10:31:36 AM
Post by: bare.hunter on May 26, 2013, 10:38:27 AM
Nice pics. You would think the guy that was there the LEAST amount of time would be more likely to take it. I highly doubt that if someone takes a camera that they would stick around too long. :twocents:I cant prove anything by the pics.But the other camera was up the trail about 100 yards.The other people that went up there may have turned around because the was a tree hanging over the trail and they where only there like 3 minutes.I dont know but Iam pissed that I lost a camera and cant leave any more up there for fear of loosing them.I will be missing some great pics.
Post by: Knocker of rocks on May 26, 2013, 10:43:44 AM
I cant prove anything by the pics.
Oh?
Anyone know this camer thief it had to be him.....
Basically you have no idea
Post by: oldleclercrd on May 26, 2013, 10:45:18 AM
Post by: 3nails on May 26, 2013, 10:49:04 AM
Post by: bare.hunter on May 26, 2013, 10:52:35 AM
What is the general area?north clark county.closest town would be amboy washington.
Post by: 3nails on May 26, 2013, 10:57:06 AM
Post by: bare.hunter on May 26, 2013, 11:00:49 AM
No I do have an Idea the trail is a deadend and the other people that went up there turned around and came back quickly(no time to get the camera)The tracks close to where the camera was where from a for wheeler not motorcycle and all the other pics are motorcycles could I win in court probably not But I can read the sign and look at the pics and be pretty sure.I cant prove anything by the pics.
Oh?Anyone know this camer thief it had to be him.....
Basically you have no idea
Post by: dscubame on May 26, 2013, 11:03:15 AM
Post by: bare.hunter on May 26, 2013, 11:03:38 AM
Any chance they rode in from their own property? Should be easy to locate them if so.No one way in and out(bluff behind the camera)all public property.
Post by: 3nails on May 26, 2013, 11:06:09 AM
Post by: bare.hunter on May 26, 2013, 11:09:45 AM
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on May 26, 2013, 11:12:47 AM
Post by: bare.hunter on May 26, 2013, 11:25:02 AM
4-Wheeler, huh? I think I'd be hiding a camera better and dumping a bunch of roofing nails on the trail.... >:( Even if he's not the culprit, anyone that lazy deserves a few flat tires! :chuckle:
[/quote Iam going to ask the welder at work to make me some nail strips that are small and easy to hide.I have a old camera that dont work and Iam going to put it in the same place and hide the nail strips In the grass.
I do hide most of my cameras but the way the critters come around the bluff i needed it waist hi and pointed at the trail they come from the mistake on my part was you could see the side profile from where they turn around.
Post by: Knocker of rocks on May 26, 2013, 11:27:07 AM
Iam going to ask the welder at work to make me some nail strips that are small and easy to hide.I have a old camera that dont work and Iam going to put it in the same place and hide the nail strips In the grass.
I do hide most of my cameras but the way the critters come around the bluff i needed it waist hi and pointed at the trail they come from the mistake on my part was you could see the side profile from where they turn around.
So you're going to place nail strips on public property? And post about it? That's real smart.
Post by: rtspring on May 26, 2013, 11:27:48 AM
4-Wheeler, huh? I think I'd be hiding a camera better and dumping a bunch of roofing nails on the trail.... >:( Even if he's not the culprit, anyone that lazy deserves a few flat tires! :chuckle:
[/quote Iam going to ask the welder at work to make me some nail strips that are small and easy to hide.I have a old camera that dont work and Iam going to put it in the same place and hide the nail strips In the grass.
I do hide most of my cameras but the way the critters come around the bluff i needed it waist hi and pointed at the trail they come from the mistake on my part was you could see the side profile from where they turn around.
Not good!! When you in fact find out he did it! Punch him in the face! Nails and this public sabotage will get you in deep doo doo!! I know your pissed but , please handle it a diffrent way
Post by: 3nails on May 26, 2013, 11:36:22 AM
Post by: fastdam on May 26, 2013, 11:37:32 AM
When i go to the woods i dont appreciate the idea of a bunch of cameras being hidden taking pictures of me. Others probably feel similar. I can see where someone might take it or destroy it. Are there laws protecting your camera in public after you abandon it there?
Post by: 3nails on May 26, 2013, 11:39:21 AM
Post by: fastdam on May 26, 2013, 11:45:26 AM
Post by: IBspoiled on May 26, 2013, 11:47:19 AM
Post by: 3nails on May 26, 2013, 11:47:48 AM
Post by: fastdam on May 26, 2013, 11:48:09 AM
Post by: bare.hunter on May 26, 2013, 11:48:23 AM
Maybe its your own fault for not hiding your property better before driving off and leaving it in a public place for so long. Now your gonna be the a$$h@%# when innocent people drive across a nail trap. Thats not right. Makes you the bad guy. Just hide your cam better and count it a lesson learned.You may be right.But This place we are taking about is about a mile from any legal road you can ride on(I walk in)The state bar pits all the old roads and pull brush and trees across the old road to keep for wheelers off these old roads.But you guys are probably right the nail stip may not be a good idea Iam just pissed about losing my camera to adirt bag that isnt supposed to be there anyway.
When i go to the woods i dont appreciate the idea of a bunch of cameras being hidden taking pictures of me. Others probably feel similar. I can see where someone might take it or destroy it. Are there laws protecting your camera in public after you abandon it there?
Post by: 3nails on May 26, 2013, 11:48:42 AM
Can you be certain it wasn't the bear? I have had one stolen by a bear. They seem to love camera's, if you don't believe me check my trail camera video with the bear and 3 cubs.Great point. I'll bet at least half of the stolen cams are by bears.
Post by: firefighter4607 on May 26, 2013, 12:38:52 PM
Right now it looks like you set them up in December 2012 and 5-6 months later you went back there to get the cameras. That is a long time to let your cameras set in public, also you said you think you could win in court, but if the dates are wrong then you cant prove anything. :twocents:
It sucks that you lost your camera, but it is a risk you take when setting up cameras on public trails such as this. Yes no one should be taking other peoples property, but it happens unfortunately.
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on May 26, 2013, 01:39:09 PM
Post by: bare.hunter on May 26, 2013, 02:50:53 PM
Are the dates and time right? And if they are when did you go to retrieve your cameras?no the dates are not right.the cameras had been out for about 4 weeks.I love putting camers out so Iam off to sportsmans for another primos 35.
Right now it looks like you set them up in December 2012 and 5-6 months later you went back there to get the cameras. That is a long time to let your cameras set in public, also you said you think you could win in court, but if the dates are wrong then you cant prove anything. :twocents:
It sucks that you lost your camera, but it is a risk you take when setting up cameras on public trails such as this. Yes no one should be taking other peoples property, but it happens unfortunately.
Post by: Evoac05 on May 26, 2013, 07:03:33 PM
Post by: Dan-o on May 26, 2013, 07:48:24 PM
I've lost a few, and while I don't think "it's your fault" to put it where someone found it, i have learned the same lesson that some people are just camera stealing scum bags.
and any advice to dump nails is either given in jest or is just plain stupid and wrong.
Post by: Johnb317 on May 26, 2013, 08:05:29 PM
Way cool
Post by: jackelope on May 26, 2013, 08:31:25 PM
4-Wheeler, huh? I think I'd be hiding a camera better and dumping a bunch of roofing nails on the trail.... >:( Even if he's not the culprit, anyone that lazy deserves a few flat tires! :chuckle:
[/quote Iam going to ask the welder at work to make me some nail strips that are small and easy to hide.I have a old camera that dont work and Iam going to put it in the same place and hide the nail strips In the grass.
I do hide most of my cameras but the way the critters come around the bluff i needed it waist hi and pointed at the trail they come from the mistake on my part was you could see the side profile from where they turn around.
You better hope some kid or person doesn't get hurt by that. Seems like an idiotic thing to do. You're going to damage someone's tires or run a nail through someone's foot and you cant even say for sure that guy did it. Wow.
Post by: cougfan79 on May 27, 2013, 08:04:29 AM
Post by: TommyGun496 on May 27, 2013, 08:37:09 AM
4-Wheeler, huh? I think I'd be hiding a camera better and dumping a bunch of roofing nails on the trail.... >:( Even if he's not the culprit, anyone that lazy deserves a few flat tires! :chuckle:
Do you think he is lazy, or could he just enjoy trail riding on public land? People like you think you own the woods. Guess what??? Everyone pats tax's *censored*!
Post by: Becky on May 27, 2013, 11:46:34 AM
Post by: bear hunter on May 27, 2013, 12:04:40 PM
Might be a silly question but do they make trail cams that wifi backup an image somewhere? like have your camera on one tree, and it will back up the image to maybe a small receiver box that you can FULLY hide close by (since it's not the camera and doesn't need to be somewhat visible to take a pic)?? :dunno: I just see these threads SO often, and even from people who lock down their equipment, at least you'd get the pics of them physically removing your camera and their faces.I seen them for the cams to. If I remember right you can hind them a hundred feet ways with no wires. If I had a pricy trail cam It might be a good investment.
Post by: sirmissalot on May 27, 2013, 12:22:24 PM
Might be a silly question but do they make trail cams that wifi backup an image somewhere? like have your camera on one tree, and it will back up the image to maybe a small receiver box that you can FULLY hide close by (since it's not the camera and doesn't need to be somewhat visible to take a pic)?? :dunno: I just see these threads SO often, and even from people who lock down their equipment, at least you'd get the pics of them physically removing your camera and their faces.
There is at least one manufacturer who makes exactly this. They aren't nearly as expensive as the cellular smart scouter type cams but I have yet to read many reviews in them. The one I have seen is made by spy point. The main trail camera has an antenna on it to send it to the small black box, that antenna alone seems like it would deter thieves so I have thought of making up fake antennas on my cams.
Post by: Becky on May 27, 2013, 12:39:12 PM
Might be a silly question but do they make trail cams that wifi backup an image somewhere? like have your camera on one tree, and it will back up the image to maybe a small receiver box that you can FULLY hide close by (since it's not the camera and doesn't need to be somewhat visible to take a pic)?? :dunno: I just see these threads SO often, and even from people who lock down their equipment, at least you'd get the pics of them physically removing your camera and their faces.I seen them for the cams to. If I remember right you can hind them a hundred feet ways with no wires. If I had a pricy trail cam It might be a good investment.
I'm thinking so... might be worth the initial cost instead of constantly replacing cams. I don't know >_< it just seems like a crap-shoot either way hoping someone doesn't take your stuff.
Post by: bare.hunter on May 27, 2013, 09:42:30 PM
My next set up is in the same area but maybe a half mile off any trail that someone could ride a machine to.I dont mind the walk be jusy dont see as much sign there as on the trails that the critter like to use.As you guys can see there is alot of critters on the trail where the cam was taken.
Let me say to everyone the posted on this tread thanks for letting me express the rage I feel for this violation and not to worry if this is your country there wont be traps waiting for the theif or any other person that happens by.
Post by: sumbeech66 on May 27, 2013, 10:09:10 PM
Maybe its your own fault for not hiding your property better before driving off and leaving it in a public place for so long. Now your gonna be the a$$h@%# when innocent people drive across a nail trap. Thats not right. Makes you the bad guy. Just hide your cam better and count it a lesson learned.
When i go to the woods i dont appreciate the idea of a bunch of cameras being hidden taking pictures of me. Others probably feel similar. I can see where someone might take it or destroy it. Are there laws protecting your camera in public after you abandon it there?
"IT'S YOUR FAULT" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Whats wrong with you? Its his fault that some criminal went into the woods and STOLE his camera? Its like saying everyone who gets a vehicle stolen is stupid because they left the engine in the car and left it unattended. Ridiculous!
Sorry your camera got stolen op. Even more sorry people are giving criminals excuses.
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on May 28, 2013, 11:39:32 AM
Post by: turkeyfeather on May 28, 2013, 12:02:54 PM
Post by: headshot5 on May 28, 2013, 12:13:13 PM
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Whats wrong with you? Its his fault that some criminal went into the woods and STOLE his camera? Its like saying everyone who gets a vehicle stolen is stupid because they left the engine in the car and left it unattended. Ridiculous!
Sorry your camera got stolen op. Even more sorry people are giving criminals excuses.
There is a difference between realism and optimism. If you think people won't eff with your stuff when they find it unattended you are bound to be disappointed.
I just accept the fact that people with steal them if they find them, then I put them where they will not be found.
I never put the camera on a road that can be accessed by Dirtbikes/4-wheelers. Generally 50 yards either side of a road is pretty good but I like it best when there isn't a road for a 1/4 mile or so. I generally do not get pictures of people on my game cams either but I like to put them on game trails that have blowdown etc, and require half and hour or so to access.
Post by: fastdam on May 28, 2013, 12:22:23 PM
Post by: whacker1 on May 28, 2013, 12:25:21 PM
Post by: sumbeech66 on May 28, 2013, 12:44:06 PM
Somebeech, there is only one person who is responsible for a persons private property, that's the owner if he wants to keep his cameras, or any other property, then he needs to protect it. If he doesn't and it gets stolen then its his fault. Its a given that it will be stolen if people know where it is in public. You can count on it. So i am saying its up t him and him alone to secure it. Just because its a camera doesn't make it exempt from human nature. You cant leave ANYTHING worth that much money in a public place and walk away for months, and then think its gonna be there when you come back, unless you secure it. Its not liberal mentality, its just how people are and how it is. Its reality.
Irresponsible, maybe. His fault absolutely NOT.
Will he learn from this experience, I'm sure. Blaming the victim of a crime is out of line in my book and a reason why this stuff is out of control. The criminal is the one that needs full blame and punishment!
Post by: turkeyfeather on May 28, 2013, 12:55:31 PM
Post by: sumbeech66 on May 28, 2013, 01:21:28 PM
Blame the victim, no
Post by: TommyGun496 on May 28, 2013, 07:29:07 PM
Ok guys I have had some time to calm dowm and realize that the nail strip thing is wrong and just me blowning steam.I will be more careful how and where I put my cameras.It just makes me so angry to have someone take my stuff.
My next set up is in the same area but maybe a half mile off any trail that someone could ride a machine to.I dont mind the walk be jusy dont see as much sign there as on the trails that the critter like to use.As you guys can see there is alot of critters on the trail where the cam was taken.
Let me say to everyone the posted on this tread thanks for letting me express the rage I feel for this violation and not to worry if this is your country there wont be traps waiting for the theif or any other person that happens by.
That's good to hear. I know a guy who got messed up pretty bad by a cable someone strung across a trail and I know alot of people who ride trails with there kids. It sucks that a few people on bikes or quads make the rest look bad. Unfortunately we have to take precautions (bear box's) to protect our stuff anywhere. It is no different than having to lock your car at the grocery store:(
Post by: Johnb317 on May 31, 2013, 07:18:17 PM