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Title: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: buglebuster on June 30, 2014, 08:30:25 PM
Just purchased our 2nd home and it has a huge nice deck. I've been wanting a pellet grill and this is the perfect reason :chuckle: would like 1st hand experiences with each. Thanks guys!
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: MtnMuley on June 30, 2014, 08:47:32 PM
I think they all will please you. I chose the traeger because I got a great deal. Rec Tec is another you might want to look at.
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: Jolten on June 30, 2014, 09:08:20 PM
Why not a stick burner offset?
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: buglebuster on June 30, 2014, 09:25:32 PM
Simple, I want a pellet grill lol, fill it with pellets and walk away for the most part.
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: 270Shooter on June 30, 2014, 09:39:22 PM
I like the traeger because it's really easy to find replacement parts if you need them, we have them all at steins. The lousianas are fancier and have more luxuries like a meat probe and flame broiler but I don't really think they are that much better than the traeger.
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: buglebuster on July 01, 2014, 06:49:28 AM
Well I think my decision is made. A friend of mine can get me the traeger texas,  which is $999 for $613 whenever I'm ready :tup:
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: bigbds61 on July 01, 2014, 07:16:43 AM
@buglebuster  Check out Ranch and Home in Kennewick.  They sell a pellet grill called "Pitboss" for $600 including some bags of pellets usually.  I have one and it works great.  American made and very solid.  It is a good size and worth a look.
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: buckfvr29 on July 03, 2014, 11:13:23 AM
I've got a traeger, about 2 yrs old. A buddy works at a locally owned hardware store that carried them. They stopped, I think about 6 months ago, he said they sold out, are no longer made in the USA, and quality went way down. Another buddy has a green mountain and his neighbor has a traeger so he's used both. He prefers the green mt, says he can get the temp a lot lower and it holds the temp more accurately. Off the top of my head, my only complaint is the heat deflector is made out of thin metal. Mine warped and doesn't sit right now.
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: CMG on July 03, 2014, 11:42:21 AM
Quote
I think they all will please you
. Not much difference between any of them. A lot of co-workers have the treager, and are pleased. I went for the Green Mtn. for a few reasons and at the time made sense.
 - Brisket is my favorite to cook and the GM had an internal thermometer and a remote, which is very handy when cooking overnight.
- The GM components (hopper) including gauge of steel steel were more robust. I believe the electronics are probably made from the same manufacturer as I see no difference between the GM and Treager's.

 Although pellet smokers take little effort to use, IMO they just do not provide the same flavor as real wood, I have tried just about every brand and flavor of pellets. Because I like the ease and smoke a lot, I would recommend to anyone using a pellet smoker to look in to purchasing a "Smoke Daddy" for their pellet smoker. What a difference! Best of both worlds, and you can cold smoke!.
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: roy...s on July 05, 2014, 10:52:34 PM
I own a Treager and love it.  However, when  it dies I'll replace it with a Green Mountain, it's just a better built unit.  All of them will produce excellent food. Get the unit you want learn how it cooks and adjust as necessary.  Your meat selection, rubs, injections, and cooking process has far more to do with producing great tasting Q than than whatever name happens to be on the outside of your smoker. :tup:
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: Quackwhacker on July 05, 2014, 11:22:49 PM
I currently have a Bradley,  but will be going to a GM when it dies. (https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.tapatalk.com%2Fd%2F14%2F07%2F06%2Fugasupa6.jpg&hash=3f1a9a3d987f4e8be05d400f6ead1902689da703)
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: Netminder01 on July 08, 2014, 01:24:05 PM
I have a Traeger Lil' Tex Elite and have had it for 4 years. 

I use the crap out of it - maybe 4-5 times every week, all year around.  If you dial in dry/soft rubs to your pallet, there aren't too many things I'd hesitate to put in the smoker.  I've done deserts to pizza to cinnamon rolls to turkey and all the normal stuff.

On the downside - my Traeger is as temperamental as a stiff wind.  I've replace the circuit board 3 times, thermometer twice and so on.  I keep mine covered and outdoors so to be fair, it takes on a portion of the elements.  Had it not been for the delicate nature of parts, this produces great food - almost all the time.

When it's time for a new one, I'll still do a pellet fed smoker as opposed to some of the others just because I like multi-tasking while things are on the smoker instead of constant taking of the temp through more conventional smokers.

Customer reviews on some of the bigger box sites are revealing and I'd start there.  If you can buy used, troll CL for used units (pick your brand) where you can get into smoking less expensively.  Believe me - it's a cult and you can really get into it like most things.  My next smoker might.... be a traveling smoker I can take to competitions.

Good luck!
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: Sliverslinger on July 08, 2014, 01:55:41 PM
It's been a while since I researched all of them, but I went with the GMG because it had clearly better specs and thicker metal. It went both lower and hotter than traeger. I love it, and the remote is awesome. I can check the meat temp without even leaving the couch.
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: haugenna on July 08, 2014, 02:37:54 PM
I have a Traeger and enjoy it but if I had to do it over again, I would get a Rec Tec or look into the GMG.

I don't trust the traeger to keep the temperature right.  Case and point, I tried to smoke some ribs for the 4th and couldn't get the dang thing below 350 on the smoke function. 

I have yet to try out the warranty department at Traeger.
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: Goldeneye on July 08, 2014, 02:48:46 PM
I have a Traeger and enjoy it but if I had to do it over again, I would get a Rec Tec or look into the GMG.

I don't trust the traeger to keep the temperature right.  Case and point, I tried to smoke some ribs for the 4th and couldn't get the dang thing below 350 on the smoke function. 

I have yet to try out the warranty department at Traeger.


There is an adjustment on Traegers for the feed rate on the pellets.  You might be able to turn down the feed rate and get lower heat.  I have mine going at 180 on smoke. 

http://tipsforbbq.com/Definition/Traeger-P-Setting (http://tipsforbbq.com/Definition/Traeger-P-Setting) 


Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: haugenna on July 08, 2014, 06:28:56 PM
I went through all that.  All of them went into the 300's before I shut them off.  Something is wrong.
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: Goldeneye on July 08, 2014, 06:34:30 PM
I agree then, contact Traeger. 
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: haugenna on July 08, 2014, 06:59:32 PM
Thanks for the tip though.
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: Kc_Kracker on July 09, 2014, 07:56:45 PM
weeziana, hands down. traeger has too many issues and green mtn has started using very thnn steel thats rusts out.  :twocents: :twocents:
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: Mossy on July 09, 2014, 10:43:01 PM
weeziana, hands down. traeger has too many issues and green mtn has started using very thnn steel thats rusts out.  :twocents: :twocents:

Do you have any first hand experience with these rust issues?
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: Kc_Kracker on July 09, 2014, 10:46:33 PM
yes with traeger aND GRN MTN
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: Mossy on July 10, 2014, 12:35:38 AM
yes with traeger aND GRN MTN

Interesting......For the OP, it seems you decided on the traeger so I suppose it's a moot point but with what you listed I'd go with GMG.   If you want to spend more, go with a Yoder or a MAK.

Did you end up with the traeger?
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: buglebuster on July 10, 2014, 02:12:43 AM
yes with traeger aND GRN MTN

Interesting......For the OP, it seems you decided on the traeger so I suppose it's a moot point but with what you listed I'd go with GMG.   If you want to spend more, go with a Yoder or a MAK.

Did you end up with the traeger?
Going to buy next month. As much as my researching leads me to wanting a gmg,  I can't beat the opportunity to buy the $1000 traeger for $613. I figure with the money saved I can buy add ons :tup:
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: DRobnsn on July 10, 2014, 07:52:22 AM
weeziana, hands down. traeger has too many issues and green mtn has started using very thnn steel thats rusts out.  :twocents: :twocents:

Can you post up a link? I copied and pasted "weeziana" in Google and came up with Nada?  :dunno:
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: Mossy on July 10, 2014, 08:34:52 AM
He's referring to Louisiana
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: DRobnsn on July 10, 2014, 09:10:15 AM
He's referring to Louisiana

 :chuckle: DUH I should've known. I guess its one of those days for me. Thanks! 
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: haugenna on July 10, 2014, 06:40:08 PM
yes with traeger aND GRN MTN

Interesting......For the OP, it seems you decided on the traeger so I suppose it's a moot point but with what you listed I'd go with GMG.   If you want to spend more, go with a Yoder or a MAK.

Did you end up with the traeger?
Going to buy next month. As much as my researching leads me to wanting a gmg,  I can't beat the opportunity to buy the $1000 traeger for $613. I figure with the money saved I can buy add ons :tup:

Might want to save that money and use it later to buy replacement parts versus add ons.  Look at the long term costs versus the upfront costs.
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: lamrith on July 12, 2014, 03:48:46 PM
He's referring to Louisiana

I am still lost, what does that mean?  Sounded like he is against GM and Traeger, but what brand is he recommending?
Nevermind I found it.  The Ranch and Home place carries them..:
http://www.ranch-home.com/bbq/grills/smokers (http://www.ranch-home.com/bbq/grills/smokers)
They also have that pitboss "pellet grill"  not sure why some pellet units are in their own page and the rest are listed as smokers though?

I have been using a propane smoker for just over a year, love smoking up some BBQ.  But it has almost no adjustability in terms of cook temp and having to feed it little bits of wood that fit in the tray all the time is getting old fast.  Going to a pellet smoker is looking really really good.  I was originally thinking Treager, or after reading this was thinking green mountain until these last few posts about lower quality now have me confused.

So those that have these pellet rigs, you use them for everything (burgers, dogs, chicken, smoking: ribs, pork shoulder)?  just vary the temp?  I could sell my stand up smoker and grill if that is the case, and it would certainly declutter the back porch!
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: bare.hunter on July 12, 2014, 03:55:48 PM
Don't forget Yoder smokers they are pellet BBq and high quality.Check out amazing ribs great site for everything BBQ.
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: Mossy on July 12, 2014, 08:21:29 PM
He's referring to Louisiana

I am still lost, what does that mean?  Sounded like he is against GM and Traeger, but what brand is he recommending?
Nevermind I found it.  The Ranch and Home place carries them..:
http://www.ranch-home.com/bbq/grills/smokers (http://www.ranch-home.com/bbq/grills/smokers)
They also have that pitboss "pellet grill"  not sure why some pellet units are in their own page and the rest are listed as smokers though?

I have been using a propane smoker for just over a year, love smoking up some BBQ.  But it has almost no adjustability in terms of cook temp and having to feed it little bits of wood that fit in the tray all the time is getting old fast.  Going to a pellet smoker is looking really really good.  I was originally thinking Treager, or after reading this was thinking green mountain until these last few posts about lower quality now have me confused.

So those that have these pellet rigs, you use them for everything (burgers, dogs, chicken, smoking: ribs, pork shoulder)?  just vary the temp?  I could sell my stand up smoker and grill if that is the case, and it would certainly declutter the back porch!

My green mountain goes from 150-500 so yes, low and slow or use it as a grill for burgers and dogs.
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: lamrith on July 12, 2014, 08:30:56 PM
Thanks Mossy!!

Some good reviews and info on the PitBoss that was recommended as well, and at a lower pricepoint.

I guess Cabela's has a unit as well that is made by Camp Chef with a few extra features the Pitboss does not have, but it is smaller cooking area for the same $599 as the pit boss.
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: Mossy on July 12, 2014, 08:45:30 PM
I suggest whichever you decide, don't get rid of your current setups until you decide if a pellet smoker does everything you want it to do. I still have 3 other cookers/smokers for different things.
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: lamrith on July 12, 2014, 10:13:24 PM
Man been lot of research today, almost too much with so many options out there!!

Pit Boss appears to be made by Dansen.  There is only one size the 820sqin, two options the normal ($599) and the deluxe ($699)  They seems to get good reviews, a few people have had igniter issues, but Pitboss replaced them quickly.  There is also an issue with the controller and how it works.  If you change temp it goes into feed mode for 3min.  This causes the temp to jump way up, but then settle down.  This happens if you raise or lower temp.  Apparently Cabelas had the base model on sale for $399 two months ago :bash:

Cabela's now has a unit under thier name, made by Camp Chef.  It is the same $599, but smaller with only 560sqin.  It does have a couple nicer features though may not be use to some.  Built in meat probe, Hopper sight window and hopper clean out.  The few reviews I have seen were positive on that unit.

Rectec - what is to be said, I have yet to see any issues or negative info other than the price.  BUT, there is good news!!  Right now they are $998, BUT WAIT THERES MORE!  They currently have 24mos interest free financing!  BUT you have to call in and order to get it, it is not available on the website.

One of my issues now is size and what do I need vs want.  The most I have done is 2 pork shoulders and 3 racks of ribs at once.  However that was such a nightmare and juggling act of each thing coming in/out of the smoker at different times, that I do not know if I will cook that much at once again.  That means 2 shoulders or 3 racks of ribs at a time, and a  smaller 560sqin should be plenty.  BUT having the capacity means I could cook more when I need and wider grating means I could even bake multiple pizzas etc.

Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: KFhunter on July 12, 2014, 10:30:35 PM
camp chef is even getting in on pellet smoker band wagon


I have a treager myself, warranted the barrel and chimney due to the paint falling off/rust issues.   warranty was great no complaints there.

my next grill will be something other than treager, I like the looks of the lousina whole hog
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: lamrith on July 13, 2014, 09:57:51 AM
camp chef is even getting in on pellet smoker band wagon


I have a treager myself, warranted the barrel and chimney due to the paint falling off/rust issues.   warranty was great no complaints there.

my next grill will be something other than treager, I like the looks of the lousina whole hog
Hrmm, looks like Louisiana has upgraded the units a bit, they have a Flame Broiler as std now on many if not all of the units.  Promo vids always look perfect, but the way it is set-up look like it could really be an all in one grill/smoker.  Just rotate items over the broiler area to get sear desired then indirect heat to finish..
http://louisiana-grills.com/index.php/grills/accessories/flame-broiler (http://louisiana-grills.com/index.php/grills/accessories/flame-broiler)

Thanks allot KF!!  I was pretty zoned in on the Rectec and now you have me rethinking!  Need to call AquaQuip when they open, see what they have to in store and $.    The new LG900 looks like a great rig it has digital controller with meat probe built in main and upper racks.  Amazon even has them for $898 and free shipping.  Hopefully Aquaquip is competative with that and has it in stock, $900 seems the target price point for the unit and I would rather buy local.
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: Mossy on July 13, 2014, 09:26:26 PM
It really all depends on what you are willing to spend. Each one will have some sort of problem due to electronics so the way I look at it, pick the one with the best customer service. I was in the same boat as you for 2 years but decided to wait until there was more time on these cookers for reviews. My father in law purchased a treager last year and he doesn't like it due to the temp fluctuations to which the company only offered the suggestion that his 2 day old pellets were wet....and a buddy bought a chargriller last year($399) and has used it 4-5 times a week. It finally went TU 2 weeks ago and the company is sending him a new control unit, no questions asked. I suppose my point is that the pellet market is so competitive that most companies should be willing to correct any problems that the consumers have. I'm really happy with my GMG, I was so used to charcoal and stick burners that I almost questioned why my pork butts were done so much quicker than I was used to. The answer is consistency.....same temperature for hours. Mine hasn't gone more than 5 degrees in either direction.
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: lamrith on July 14, 2014, 09:16:09 AM
Called Aquaquip, they are no longer a Louisiana dealer, they carry GM only now.

Thanks for the info Mossy!  Spent most of yesterday on pelletheads.com  Seems for the most part the big brands are all about equal and that Pellet grills are much like Bows/guns.  Each person has their personal favorite.

Probably my biggest issue is going to be how big do I NEED.  Rectec is a REALLY nice looking and built unit, BUT one size deal (680sqin).  Louisiana offers at least 3 sizes in each model line.
The ability to do 2 pork shoulders and 3+ rack of ribs at the same time is really nice, but that is a once a year deal and then I use more fuel the rest of the year doing smaller cooks (burgers, or 2 pork shoulders, or 3 rack of ribs)  Any of those will only need around 350sqin.  My current grill is 460 and I use half of it most of the time, my smoker I usually use 335 of it and it maxes 504.  Maybe 2-3x a year I max out the grill for parties.

I am thinking a 400-500 sized pellet is more than plenty as most then also have an upper rack option to get over 700 if needed.  They will be a touch large for day to day, but not overly so, and no worse than the grill I have now.  PLUS as you mentioned the temp stability and reliability I can start a pork shoulder the night before so I do not need to cook 2 shoulders and lot of ribs at same time.  The smaller rigs are also less expensive up front.

There are smaller units from other mfg, but as mentioned many have controller issues.  For the size/price the LG700 (http://www.louisiana-grills.com/index.php/grills/lg-series/lg-700) is really looking like a solid choice when it comes to features.  500sqin, Set and forget, meat probe, auto warming mode, flame broiler, optional cold smoker..
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: Mxracer532 on July 14, 2014, 09:37:18 AM
GMG here!

I have a buddy who has had a Treager for as long as I can remember and within 2 weeks of me getting a GMG he sold his Treager and bought a GMG. My brother is also selling his Treager that he has had for 8 years or so for a GMG. Two of my co workers have also bought GMG's and are very happy with them.
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: lamrith on July 14, 2014, 10:42:55 AM
Soooo, what I am hearing from all of you is..   go green mountain or go home!?  :chuckle:

Pricing is decent, and actually fits in that smaller size category and is within a few sq" of my grill. (gmg:27X16 vs mine:17.5x27)

One question is how are the GMG for searing something like burgers or steaks?  We do not do allot of steaks, but do burgers a good bit.  Do you guys maybe use high heat and the "grill grates" to get that sear?

Pricing is actually good enough I could add some of the extras like front rack, insulated cover, upper grate, etc..  It appears a few local places carry them as well which is a nice bonus.  Looks like more research and no productivity at work today :tup:

Thanks for the continued input folks!
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: MAGhunter on July 14, 2014, 10:52:39 AM
I have the Daniel Boone Green mountain grill.  The quality on this grill is excellent.  I think the most important feature is the thermostat which is 150-500 degrees.  I do not believe that the Traeger goes to 150.....maybe 180.  I may be mistaken though.   Traeger also sold out and the quality is not so good now from what I hear.

As for the steaks....I dont sear them..  I just set it to 450 degrees for about 6-7 min per side on a quality steak.  Best steaks i've ever had on a grill, and the juicest also. 
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: Jacque on July 14, 2014, 11:05:12 AM
I've had a traeger for 2 or 3 years and love it. 
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: Mossy on July 14, 2014, 06:51:50 PM
If you were closer there is a dealer here in Spokane selling the Daniel Boone with a cover and your choice of either 2 28lb bags of pellets or one bag and a couple of gmg rubs for $659. That was the fathers day special but they gave my buddy the same deal 2 weeks ago.
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: lamrith on July 14, 2014, 08:38:04 PM
Mossy, that sounds like a great deal.  I just talked to a dealer here and they quoted me $770 for the DB remote version.  The non remote should be about $100 less, but I did not hear anything about extras.  The nice thing is I could have it Friday versus shipping in the Louisiana.  Sportsmans in Fedway I think is supposed to have GMG them as well though puyallup did not.  Puyallup has the 20# traeger pellets for $16.  They also had some other pellets I think $9.99/20#

Really really torn between these two.  GMG Daniel Boone and the Louisiana LG700.

Leaning toward the GMG becasue I can get it local in a few days, it is on sale, and so many of you recommend it.

A few things nag at me about it, maybe those with one can chime in..  Given it is a 152# unit the legs on the GMG look awfully spindly, how are they if you need to move the grill around?  Why no cross bracing at all?

While the body on it is tall for standing some items up, such a small optional upper rack I am not sure if I can fit everything if I ever do need more space?  I think I would be lucky to put a single rack of ribs on that optional upper rack?

The LG700 wins for searing food, much higher stock capacity.  But the GMG has some nicer features, super easy cleanup, local and cheaper.  I just really worry about outgrowing it before I buy it, if I have guests over I probably need to throw 6-7 racks of ribs in it and maybe some other items.  Rib racks work for the start, but not once I need to foil them..
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: Mossy on July 14, 2014, 09:59:57 PM
The wheels make the non braced legs a non issue. If you are questioning the size right now then you will probably have a problem in the future. Only you know how much you need and what you cook so go with your gut. FYI,  just noticed that ACE Hardware is a dealer and you can ship to your store for free on the Louisiana.
Oh, 28lb bags of gmg pellets are $13.95 
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: Knocker of rocks on July 14, 2014, 10:21:14 PM
I have a GMG Danial Boone and it's great.  No issues with the legs of the controller
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: lamrith on July 15, 2014, 08:14:47 AM
Thanks for the further info folks.  The leg concern was just me being a mechanic that deals with torque and leverage a good bit.  Plus past experience with similar looking legs on other grills.  Long thin legs with a bunch of weight on them, plus uneven cement/deck.. bend, kink, snap...  Based on responses here and a bunch on pelletheads.com this is a non-issue.  Plus I will be honest the GMG has more optional addons like a nice big folding front shelf, blanket for winter cooking, remote.

As to the capacity, that is/was by far my largest concern and Mossy nailed it in not wanting to risk to small a unit.  Chances are with a more reliable grill I will use it quite a bit more.  The factory second rack was inadequit at best for my needs.  Well then just make your own!  pelletheads.com to the rescue again, and I wanted to share with you guys that might want more capacity...
OEM: just not really adding much..
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi110.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn90%2Flwnna%2FGMG%2520Evaluation%2F21.jpg&hash=a401814333a2579334cc4297a92ffb827345f1d2)
DIY: single side and then double side.
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I see no problem doing 2-3 shoulders as well as 1-2 packages of costco babybacks all at once with that set-up.  Gut now (and in the future) is satisfied..

Right now probably 70% of my cooking is std grilling, so the searing ability is important, but I know with grillgrates the unit can sear.  Plus I am hearing rumors that they are working on a searing option, though may not be available with the new units in August.

MOSSY: Can you PM me where you find these gmg bags of pellets, is that a normal dealer pricing thing, any flavor options?  28# for $13.95 is a good price.  I just had someone offer me 40# bags of Cookinpellets for $30 that are supposed to be a high quality pellet too.

In my smoker I use Applewood 95% of the time, only alter when I am running low, and then mix in hickory...

FYI as mentioned I am hearing that new models are coming out in August, They are adding wifi remote and some other features.  Maybe keep eyes out for the old units going on sale even more.  For now I am going to take the $80 discount and run!
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: lamrith on July 15, 2014, 09:29:41 AM
Mossy, you have pm  :IBCOOL:

Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: buglebuster on July 16, 2014, 10:24:02 PM
Well I thought I wanted the traeger but after reading all these responses I went and looked at the Louisiana lg900 and think that will be the one I buy  :tup:
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: lamrith on July 17, 2014, 06:04:32 AM
I have ordered in a GMG Daniel Boone.  It is not being released publicly yet, but effective Aug 1 they have new versions of DB and JB coming out.  Also new (lower?) pricing.  The big change I have heard is the Remote version is being discontinued and replaced with a Wifi version at the same or maybe lower price.

Wifi has all same abilities of the remote, but runs on Iphone/droid.  The app also goes farther allowing actual programming of the unit.  Like, start 185*, run 2hrs, increase to 225* until food hits 200 and then cycle down to 170* to keep warm.  It will also of course give you full readouts of temps, time etc..

GMG isd also working on a new baffle setup to allow searing, and should be retrofit able to old units..

IF you are looking at a GMG, I would wait until after Aug 1 at this point.  they are supposed to do a big public release on the website.  Dealers should know about the upcoming change, but the 2 I spoke with claimed they did not know.  Can't blame them, they got grills instock they need to move before the prices drop and are stuck with higher cost inventory..
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: lamrith on July 17, 2014, 09:52:41 AM
I have been given the OK to share this now and open up to a few people that might want to get in on it, you will have to act quickly as our order is already in, but they will allow a few more to jump on and fill a pallet load.

For the new Daniel Boone with Wifi that is being announced and released on Aug 1 the price is $650otd.  That is delivered to my place in Tacoma.  Any freight/transport beyond that would have to be arranged.  I am willing to do local/regional met ups.

I do not yet have pricing on the bare DB or on the JB, but am working on that.

Please PM me directly ASAP if you are interested.  This deal may only be available for a few days, 1st come, 1st served, etc..

These grills are bieng publicly announced on Aug 1, we have not been told if they will have them in the warehouse ready to ship that day, or a few days later or..  This is a pre order at below normal dealer pricing.
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: lamrith on July 17, 2014, 11:34:09 AM
Got my order confirmation, still waiting on when I will actually see the grill though.
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: CoryTDF on July 17, 2014, 12:23:15 PM
Where is the thread?
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: Woodchuck on July 17, 2014, 01:14:28 PM
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,157168.0.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,157168.0.html)
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: ridgefire on July 27, 2014, 07:32:15 PM
went through the same thing and ended up with a gmg instead of the traeger. I had a lil tex and loved the food but never could trust it for an over night or day long smoke. bought the Daniel boone and love it so far but its only been a couple months so cant say anything for long term use.
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: ehul0000 on September 24, 2014, 06:53:42 PM
For everyone on here that is interested in a Traeger or Green Mountain, my local dealer sells them extremely cheap... He ships them all over the country, and his prices are still cheaper than you'll find at the majority of local dealers.

If anyone is interested, let me know.
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: Mossy on September 25, 2014, 12:35:36 AM
I have been given the OK to share this now and open up to a few people that might want to get in on it, you will have to act quickly as our order is already in, but they will allow a few more to jump on and fill a pallet load.

For the new Daniel Boone with Wifi that is being announced and released on Aug 1 the price is $650otd.  That is delivered to my place in Tacoma.  Any freight/transport beyond that would have to be arranged.  I am willing to do local/regional met ups.

I do not yet have pricing on the bare DB or on the JB, but am working on that.

Please PM me directly ASAP if you are interested.  This deal may only be available for a few days, 1st come, 1st served, etc..

These grills are bieng publicly announced on Aug 1, we have not been told if they will have them in the warehouse ready to ship that day, or a few days later or..  This is a pre order at below normal dealer pricing.

So what do you think of the new obsession ?
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: steeleywhopper on September 25, 2014, 12:37:49 AM
I have a green mountain and love it.
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: Mossy on September 25, 2014, 12:50:49 AM
I have a green mountain and love it.

Haven't met anyone that doesn't.
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: ehul0000 on September 25, 2014, 05:06:05 AM
I have a green mountain and love it.

Haven't met anyone that doesn't.

They are great, affordable grills! Definitely a must have.
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: trophyhunt on September 25, 2014, 05:30:34 AM
We just bought an older used treager from a friend, it was made in Oregon.  Can't believe I like white meat now!  The food off of it is amazing, I've heard the older US made ones are better but all I know is this Thing kicks butt.
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: lamrith on September 25, 2014, 06:07:18 AM
still trying to learn my gmg.  I love the set and forget ability for those long low and slow cooks.

What do you folks cook on yours, everything? burgers steaks etc?  How is the sear and pellet consumption?  mine goes thru a ton of pellets to reach and hold the high grilling temps, makes me wonder if keeping my propane would be more economical and faster to use for my burger/dog/steak grilling needs.
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: undertoad on September 25, 2014, 06:51:28 PM
What will you require of it? Grilling? Low and slow smoking? Roasting? Making pizzas?

I've cooked huge loads of food on a Traeger at least once a year, for the last decade or so. Personally, I would never buy one.

Why? Pellet grills generate all their heat by using a fan to blow over the pellets and make them burn hotter. The higher the setting on the fan, the less smoke you get. IMO, this is the great flaw in the design: You have to choose heat or smoke. You can't have both. Turn the switch up to 400 degrees, and it's just an outdoor oven.

Also, they do not get what I would consider hot enough.

I prefer a grill that separates the functions of smoke generation and heat generation. For my own patio, I chose a Chargriller Akorn Kamado-style grill.

http://www.amazon.com/Char-Griller-16620-Kamado-Charcoal-Barbecue/dp/B00GJEPTJS# (http://www.amazon.com/Char-Griller-16620-Kamado-Charcoal-Barbecue/dp/B00GJEPTJS#)

I love it.
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: blazenfish on September 25, 2014, 07:01:38 PM
Man I love my gmg I have the blanket over it love I can adjust by 5 degree increments and when smoking on high heat I use a smoke tray with pellets in it.. same smoker tray I would use for cold smoke cheese mmmmm pineapple upside down cake pizza papa Murphys works wonderfully... freeze them and use cold smoke tray for 30 mins or so while it thaws moisture helps hold smoke in remove and turn to the loving 425 and cook as normal...
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: lamrith on September 25, 2014, 07:32:11 PM
What will you require of it? Grilling? Low and slow smoking? Roasting? Making pizzas?
"yes"  most of what I do is grilling, burgers/dogs/chicken

Love the features of the gmg, tall for bigger items, programmable cooking profiles, 5* increments for temps, easy to clean grease tray set-up.

But, I have burned 70# of pellets thru mine now, still trying to dial it in to do what I want.  Temps in mine are not what the controller is claiming which can make cooking problematic and not seeing the amount of smoke I expected from it.

I wonder if a Louisiana LG700 might have been a better choice since it has even higher temp and is set-up to direct flame sear.
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: CoryTDF on September 26, 2014, 12:57:44 PM
I noticed that the pellets went faster than I thought they would. I have used mine to do lots of deer and chicken. I even did a salmon on it. I was using a charcoal grill before this and i loved it but i am pretty sure i burnt through the charcoal much faster than the pellets. The searing is not really an issue for me i dont care about the grill marks. All in all I’m happy with it.  Did have a problem with grease leaking out the bottom but that was operator error and bad assembly on my part. Gas is great for those fast last minute things but the flavor is so much better with this new grill.
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: lamrith on September 26, 2014, 02:02:36 PM
Glad you are enjoying it Cory! 

Being my 1st, I am getting used to how pellet rigs run.
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: haugenna on September 26, 2014, 02:12:33 PM
One of the three that bought one with Lamrith and CoryTDF.  I had a traeger and am glad it is gone.  I enjoyed cooking on it but got tired of babysitting it and trying to smoke meat on a range of 160 degrees to 320 degrees.  No reason why it fluctuated the way it did.  The GMG is well ahead of traeger and I am glad I made the purchase.  Doing ribs on it this weekend.  I am not sure if it goes through pellets faster or is it because I have done ribs on it 4 times for 5-6 hours and I am using it more for longer cooks because I can with a better regulated grill.
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: CoryTDF on September 27, 2014, 06:32:01 AM
One of the three that bought one with Lamrith and CoryTDF.  I had a traeger and am glad it is gone.  I enjoyed cooking on it but got tired of babysitting it and trying to smoke meat on a range of 160 degrees to 320 degrees.  No reason why it fluctuated the way it did.  The GMG is well ahead of traeger and I am glad I made the purchase.  Doing ribs on it this weekend.  I am not sure if it goes through pellets faster or is it because I have done ribs on it 4 times for 5-6 hours and I am using it more for longer cooks because I can with a better regulated grill.

I was thinking that too. Though I have no basis of comparison as this is my first pellet grill. But I went from speed cooking on my gas grill to slower cooking with my charcoal grill and now super slow on my GMG. It stands to reason that the longer you operate the grill the more pellets it would use. Almost all my cook times have gone up as I now have the ability to slow cook without burning. The food has been fantastic!
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: Whitpirate on September 27, 2014, 07:17:30 AM
Trying to decide what GMG I want...
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: lamrith on September 27, 2014, 08:54:09 AM
Whit,
What sort of cooking do you do mostly, and for how many people?  What size grill do you have now and how full do you usually have it?  That will tell you want you need to get, the smaller you get the lower pellet consumption will be.

For me I had a big 4 burner gasser, but normally I only used 1/2 of it at most.  Once a year I would use all of it, was/is a challenge to know what grill I should get to make sure I had that once a year ability but not waste pellets.  Given I like to smoke two pork shoulders, or 3 racks of ribs at a time I went with the Daniel Boon from GMG.  It will fit two 8# pork butt with no problem, turkey in Nov will be simple, we have cooked large and family size papa murphy's pizzas, homemade pizzas and calzones, burgers.  Right now it has a 14# brisket on it.  It is their smaller of their full size 110v std grills.

They have the Davey Crocket, but that is very small designed for taking tailgating and use in RV's.  It does though also have the ability to flame sear, rumor had it that option is being worked on for the full size rigs.

I am over 80# of pellets now in almost 2 months.  But I did quite a bit of testing and running it high temp.  If you push a pellet grill to reach 400-500* they really really suck down the pellets.  I am considering selling my big 4burner gasses and old smoker and getting a small 2burner gasses for the burgers/dogs cooks so as not to waste pellets.
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: Whitpirate on September 28, 2014, 08:21:46 PM
What's a Boone set you back as it sounds to be the right size...
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: lamrith on September 28, 2014, 08:36:08 PM
I think if you want the fancy wifi boone they are $759, the normal units are $599.
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: lamrith on September 29, 2014, 11:34:42 AM
Might have line on one for you whit.  Sending pm.
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: Mossy on October 01, 2014, 10:05:36 PM
I noticed that the pellets went faster than I thought they would. I have used mine to do lots of deer and chicken. I even did a salmon on it. I was using a charcoal grill before this and i loved it but i am pretty sure i burnt through the charcoal much faster than the pellets. The searing is not really an issue for me i dont care about the grill marks. All in all I’m happy with it.  Did have a problem with grease leaking out the bottom but that was operator error and bad assembly on my part. Gas is great for those fast last minute things but the flavor is so much better with this new grill.

I have the gmg, my weber genesis, master built electric and weber gold and fyi, there's a need for all of them. Although I have no problem with grill marks and sear on my Daniel boone, my preference is a reverse sear. Throw a steak or tri tip on the pellet for some low temp smoke and finish it off on the gas genesis with a hot sear.
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: CoryTDF on October 02, 2014, 08:57:31 AM
Pulled Pork Pizza on the GMG!! Smoked the pork for 10 hours.

Pizza: assemble in order

Baked beans
Pork
Onion
Cheese
Crushed Red Pepper
Little more onion
BBQ sauce drizzle

I use the jiffy pizza dough. 3 boxes for this size.

Bake for about 20-25 min on 425
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: lamrith on October 02, 2014, 09:03:43 AM
Have you tried higher temps for pizza?    Pizza ovens actually run 800+.  Been reading a few sites, pizza is best at max oven temp you can manage..
Thinking about modding the gmg with stone/steel to get the temps up.
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: CoryTDF on October 02, 2014, 09:53:20 AM
Have you tried higher temps for pizza?    Pizza ovens actually run 800+.  Been reading a few sites, pizza is best at max oven temp you can manage..
Thinking about modding the gmg with stone/steel to get the temps up.

Never tried it. I have had good luck with the 425
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: 92xj on October 02, 2014, 12:09:28 PM
I cook pizza on mine all the time. Use a stone. Put stone in and crank GMG as high as it will go. Once hot and stone is hot slide pizza on and cook away.
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: lamrith on October 02, 2014, 12:22:16 PM
Sorry for the hijack-Derail..

Started a new thread on pizza grilling.. :tup:
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: GurrCentral on December 12, 2014, 01:33:48 PM
Glad you are enjoying it Cory! 

Being my 1st, I am getting used to how pellet rigs run.


Just got my Daniel Boone GMG last night. Fired it up for the 350 for a half-hour. Thinking about doing moose burgers on it tonight, then trying ribs on sunday! Keep the ideas and info coming! Thanks!!
Title: Re: traeger, green mountain, or Louisiana?
Post by: ridgefire on December 15, 2014, 08:59:14 PM
I had a traeger lil tex and im pretty sure I burn through less pellets with the gmg. I have done everything from ribs, pizza, burgers, steaks, fish, oysters, crab, smoked salmon, and butt roasts on the gmg and everything has been top notch. has anybody tried the 3-2-1 ribs? fall off the bone meat and absolutely delicious.
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