Post by: BKMFR on November 05, 2018, 06:13:44 PM
Looking pretty seriously at Leupold VX-5, but dang I like my Nightforce magnification....
Post by: carpsniperg2 on November 05, 2018, 06:34:04 PM
Post by: zwickeyman on November 05, 2018, 06:56:49 PM
Post by: yorketransport on November 05, 2018, 07:04:21 PM
There may be other scopes that will dial farther or have better glass, but Leupold is still hard to beat for hunting scopes because of their size and weight.
Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on November 05, 2018, 07:29:26 PM
Most topics such as these revolve around an important question.
What’s your budget?
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Post by: Stein on November 05, 2018, 07:31:35 PM
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Post by: lamrith on November 06, 2018, 06:15:12 AM
Love my VX-5 3-15x44 on my 300 win mag. Swarovski z-5 is another good hunting scope but doesn't dial to 800If a scope limits out on adjustment, there is always the option of installing 10, 20, 30moa base to gain that extra elevation. If he is planning to shoot that far more than one time I would recommend it from the start, there really is no downside to it. I knew I might stretch the range on my gun so I went straight to a 20moa right when I bought the gun.
The VX-5 I am showing has 58moa of total adjustment, if perfect zero out of the box that leaves 29moa of elevation to work with, which could be right on the ragged edge for 800yrds with a little hold over.
OP never listed caliber, my lowly 308 is 9.1MIL (31.26moa) to zero for 800yrds, <2turns of the turret on my scope (not a VX-5) and I have much more than that available with the 20moa base.
Post by: MtnMuley on November 06, 2018, 06:35:09 AM
Post by: yorketransport on November 06, 2018, 02:31:18 PM
I recommend you to check out the (spam removed) They have really very good characteristics and the price is fair, from my point of view.
So what’s your affiliation with ATN?
Post by: The scout on November 06, 2018, 04:58:08 PM
Post by: huntandjeep on November 06, 2018, 05:00:28 PM
Maybe he just really likes them :chuckle:I recommend you to check out the Thermal Rifle Scope ThOR HD https://www.atncorp.com/thermal-scope-thor-hd (https://www.atncorp.com/thermal-scope-thor-hd). They have really very good characteristics and the price is fair, from my point of view. Model ATN THOR-HD 384 1.25-5с is quite available
So what’s your affiliation with ATN?
Post by: yorketransport on November 06, 2018, 05:11:53 PM
Maybe he just really likes them :chuckle:I recommend you to check out the Thermal Rifle Scope ThOR HD https://www.atncorp.com/thermal-scope-thor-hd (https://www.atncorp.com/thermal-scope-thor-hd). They have really very good characteristics and the price is fair, from my point of view. Model ATN THOR-HD 384 1.25-5с is quite available
So what’s your affiliation with ATN?
I don’t even plug my own products in 75% of my total posts, let alone somebody else’s! :chuckle:
That said, I’m really into this new shirt by an outfit called Scapegoat Enterprises. You should totally check them out. :chuckle:
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Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 06, 2018, 05:26:14 PM
that operation just looks sketchy to me :chuckle:Maybe he just really likes them :chuckle:I recommend you to check out the Thermal Rifle Scope ThOR HD https://www.atncorp.com/thermal-scope-thor-hd (https://www.atncorp.com/thermal-scope-thor-hd). They have really very good characteristics and the price is fair, from my point of view. Model ATN THOR-HD 384 1.25-5с is quite available
So what’s your affiliation with ATN?
I don’t even plug my own products in 75% of my total posts, let alone somebody else’s! :chuckle:
That said, I’m really into this new shirt by an outfit called Scapegoat Enterprises. You should totally check them out. :chuckle:
(https://imgur.com/OYnzOv7)
Post by: Caseyd on November 06, 2018, 05:26:45 PM
Maybe he just really likes them :chuckle:I recommend you to check out the Thermal Rifle Scope ThOR HD https://www.atncorp.com/thermal-scope-thor-hd (https://www.atncorp.com/thermal-scope-thor-hd). They have really very good characteristics and the price is fair, from my point of view. Model ATN THOR-HD 384 1.25-5с is quite available
So what’s your affiliation with ATN?
I don’t even plug my own products in 75% of my total posts, let alone somebody else’s! :chuckle:
That said, I’m really into this new shirt by an outfit called Scapegoat Enterprises. You should totally check them out. :chuckle:
(https://imgur.com/OYnzOv7)
We need a link :chuckle:
Post by: huntandjeep on November 06, 2018, 05:37:47 PM
That's just funny . :chuckle: Tell me more about this T-Shirt outfit ?Maybe he just really likes them :chuckle:I recommend you to check out the Thermal Rifle Scope ThOR HD https://www.atncorp.com/thermal-scope-thor-hd (https://www.atncorp.com/thermal-scope-thor-hd). They have really very good characteristics and the price is fair, from my point of view. Model ATN THOR-HD 384 1.25-5с is quite available
So what’s your affiliation with ATN?
I don’t even plug my own products in 75% of my total posts, let alone somebody else’s! :chuckle:
That said, I’m really into this new shirt by an outfit called Scapegoat Enterprises. You should totally check them out. :chuckle:
(https://imgur.com/OYnzOv7)
Sorry for the derail OP. What's your budget ? I use Leupold MK 4's
Post by: Stein on November 06, 2018, 07:09:05 PM
that operation just looks sketchy to me :chuckle:Maybe he just really likes them :chuckle:I recommend you to check out the Thermal Rifle Scope ThOR HD https://www.atncorp.com/thermal-scope-thor-hd (https://www.atncorp.com/thermal-scope-thor-hd). They have really very good characteristics and the price is fair, from my point of view. Model ATN THOR-HD 384 1.25-5с is quite available
So what’s your affiliation with ATN?
I don’t even plug my own products in 75% of my total posts, let alone somebody else’s! :chuckle:
That said, I’m really into this new shirt by an outfit called Scapegoat Enterprises. You should totally check them out. :chuckle:
(https://imgur.com/OYnzOv7)
As Robert Deniro stated, "If there is any doubt, there is no doubt." I can say with confidence that if you are looking for the best scope, it won't be a name nobody has heard of.
Post by: yorketransport on November 06, 2018, 07:12:08 PM
that operation just looks sketchy to me :chuckle:
You have no idea!!! :chuckle:
That's just funny . :chuckle: Tell me more about this T-Shirt outfit ?Maybe he just really likes them :chuckle:I recommend you to check out the Thermal Rifle Scope ThOR HD https://www.atncorp.com/thermal-scope-thor-hd (https://www.atncorp.com/thermal-scope-thor-hd). They have really very good characteristics and the price is fair, from my point of view. Model ATN THOR-HD 384 1.25-5с is quite available
So what’s your affiliation with ATN?
I don’t even plug my own products in 75% of my total posts, let alone somebody else’s! :chuckle:
That said, I’m really into this new shirt by an outfit called Scapegoat Enterprises. You should totally check them out. :chuckle:
(https://imgur.com/OYnzOv7)
Sorry for the derail OP. What's your budget ? I use Leupold MK 4's
Scapegoat Enterprises is endorsed by at least 40% of all recently banned HuntWa members, as well as 15% of all level 5 internet operators. Yeah, we're kind of a big deal. ;) I got lazy and let the website kind of fade away since 90% of my business came from Facebook anyways. Full disclosure: I'm a paid HuntWa advertiser and your single source for official BearPaw approved HuntWa shirts! :tup:
https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,225500.0.html
https://www.facebook.com/scapegoatenterprises/?ref=bookmarks
Back on topic though, the Leupold VX-5 is officially endorsed by Scapegoat Enterprises, thereby making it the superior choice. :chuckle:
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 06, 2018, 07:46:38 PM
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Post by: syoungs on December 02, 2018, 09:24:59 PM
I also need advice for my rifle, particularly the scope. One guy recommended this one to me: (spam removed) Do you know anything about it? Have you seen any reviews?
Holy cow...
Post by: KFhunter on December 03, 2018, 07:55:22 PM
Occasionally one slips through, but with your all's help we usually get them pretty quick :tup:
Post by: TwoBarrelShot on June 05, 2019, 04:51:04 AM
Post by: Bango skank on June 05, 2019, 05:01:58 AM
https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,239620.0.html
Post by: BULLBLASTER on June 06, 2019, 09:04:22 AM
What you need sir, is a nightforce nxs 5.5-22x50 ;)
https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,239620.0.html
Not sure the thread is relevant anymore... but if I had a bit more cash I’d be talking to you on that glass bango!
Post by: Karl Blanchard on June 06, 2019, 10:26:23 AM
What you need sir, is a nightforce nxs 5.5-22x50 ;)I'll trade you a leupold mrk 4 6.5-20 and $400 :chuckle: but seriously 8)
https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,239620.0.html
Post by: BULLBLASTER on June 06, 2019, 10:32:06 AM
I’ll trade you a better mk4 6.5-20 and $450!... :chuckle:What you need sir, is a nightforce nxs 5.5-22x50 ;)I'll trade you a leupold mrk 4 6.5-20 and $400 :chuckle: but seriously 8)
https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,239620.0.html
Post by: Karl Blanchard on June 06, 2019, 10:41:51 AM
it's the same scope sir! Plus mine is better because its killed more animals so has more street cred which is important for a scope to have in the prime of his life >:(I’ll trade you a better mk4 6.5-20 and $450!... :chuckle:What you need sir, is a nightforce nxs 5.5-22x50 ;)I'll trade you a leupold mrk 4 6.5-20 and $400 :chuckle: but seriously 8)
https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,239620.0.html
Post by: jakeweb on June 09, 2019, 11:04:35 AM
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Post by: wheels on July 12, 2019, 08:16:04 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on July 12, 2019, 09:13:38 PM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on July 12, 2019, 09:32:24 PM
Yawn..... you could buy those other scopes if you want to do math on your phone before you shoot, and watch the animal walk away. OR you can just buy a huskamaw, get a range, dial and shoot. Easy peasy....You can make any scope work like that. :chuckle:
Post by: trophyhunt on July 12, 2019, 10:05:01 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on July 12, 2019, 10:32:47 PM
I’ve helped a couple guys on good tags, they both had to do math and dial for yardage. They both either never got a shot or missed. Dial and shoot!just like a huskemaw, you could just make a simple drop chart based on one set of atmospheric conditions (a less accurate way to do it, than actually inputting real time data) and it would take the same amount of time as a yardage turret. Been there done that.
Post by: Magnum_Willys on July 13, 2019, 07:40:04 AM
Post by: Bushcraft on July 13, 2019, 10:58:23 AM
I've had guys show up to my classes with Huskemaws and yardage turrets and promptly get educated...and pissed that they bought into some dumb marketing hype.
The single best thing anyone can do for themselves, if they really want to get into long range shooting is:
- Take a class from a competent instructor. Many will have "class guns" you can borrow or rent. I've got one that my students regularly use to pound 5-7" groups at 1K at the end of the day like it's child's play.
- Go be an RO at some of the club and national level matches here in the state and look at what everyone is using for rifles, optics, gear, etc. (RO's can pull some SWEET stuff off some of the prize tables that are out there!)
- Go shoot some matches. You can bring your own rifle or there are loaner rifles out there.
We have some of the best shooters on the planet right here in the Pacific Northwest and they can shoot any glass they want. Winning and losing can come down to the difference of one missed shot in a 250 round weekend PRS/NRL match. There's just too much on the line for the top shooters to use substandard glass. I've yet to see a Huskemaw at any of the matches I've been to. That alone should tell you all you need to know about their product.
Here's a great link for reference purposes:
https://precisionrifleblog.com/2018/12/21/best-scope/
(Note that Huskemaw didn't even make the list and no one is using dial turrets.)
Post by: Crunchy on July 13, 2019, 11:08:20 AM
Many rangefinders now days can output moa’s also so its range dial and shoot with any turret scope.
Ive got some learning to do but isnt yardage turrets based off of MOA? I understand that atmosphere can change which can/will have an impact on what distance you should shoot for, but unless you go full enchilada with a range finder that puts considers atmosphere and angles why go with MOA turret?
Post by: Taco280AI on July 13, 2019, 11:16:43 AM
Post by: Bushcraft on July 13, 2019, 11:23:07 AM
Many rangefinders now days can output moa’s also so its range dial and shoot with any turret scope.
Ive got some learning to do but isnt yardage turrets based off of MOA? I understand that atmosphere can change which can/will have an impact on what distance you should shoot for, but unless you go full enchilada with a range finder that puts considers atmosphere and angles why go with MOA turret?
Yardage turrets can be made on MOA or MIL turrets, but you usually see them on MOA-based elevation turrents. Unless your just going to be shooting under 400 yards or so in generally the same hunting area, they are a gimmick and you should avoid them per my prior post.
Theoretically, one could pack around a big sleeve of custom dials with every conceivable combination of environmentals and use the dial that matches those conditions (hint: and you'd have to gather the environmental data anyway to determine which custom dial to use for the prevailing conditions), or they could simply gather the data, get the dope (manually or automatically via blue-tooth or a ballistic rangefinder), spin the turret and press the bang button. It can be done in seconds.
Post by: Oh Mah on July 13, 2019, 01:31:48 PM
If you want to hit the target cheat sheets work and are very fast. :twocents: :tup:
Post by: hunting4sanity on July 13, 2019, 04:31:43 PM
Post by: spoonman on July 13, 2019, 07:26:18 PM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on July 13, 2019, 07:46:37 PM
I prefer and use a rangefinder that spits out moa or mil corrections based on range and atmospherics collected at the time of ranging. They will give you wind holds as well. I personally like to know what a full value 5 mph wind hold is and then decide what my hold will be at shot time based on what I see through the scope.
Post by: Bushcraft on July 14, 2019, 10:33:38 AM
They are just external reference marks. They don't have anything to do with the actual operational internal guts of the scope turrets.
Every click adjustment is going to coincide with the specification of the scope. So, even if you are using a dial whose custom engraved enviros (or even the bullet load data) are way off for a particular shot, you can still count the "clicks" necessary to make a precise shot.
The problem that comes into play when using custom turret dials that don't fit the existing enviros is that you will have to patiently and precisely count through a lot of those small individual clicks, particularly if your turret clicks are kind of soft and mushy. And, heaven forbid if you don't have a zero stop feature on the scope and get lost. Not good!
For example, let's say your dope at sea level for a particular bullet load suggests coming up 41 MOA...that's counting in 164 clicks if you have elevation turret gradients of 1/4 MOA. Tick 1...tick 2...tick 3...etc., etc., etc.,
So yeah, you can do it, but if you're taking a long range class with a high round count or are thrust into a situation where you need/want to make a shot (when your speed dial turrets inputs don't match the current enviros) and time is of the essence but you have to sit there and impatiently count ticktickticktickticktickticktick 164 times... :o
:sry: :bdid: :bash:
So much for "speed dial". :rolleyes: No thank you.
A normally graduated dial that you can just quickly zzzzzzzzzzip! in your elevation dope (and windage if you don't feel comfortable holding) is what I would recommend all day, every day.
Post by: BULLBLASTER on July 14, 2019, 04:11:50 PM
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Post by: buckfvr on July 14, 2019, 05:05:58 PM
Post by: Oh Mah on July 14, 2019, 06:45:17 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on July 14, 2019, 07:38:49 PM
41 moa!!?? ya at are you shooting and how far? :chuckle:hey the creedmoor was 41 minutes at 1187 today remember :chuckle:
Post by: BULLBLASTER on July 14, 2019, 07:54:28 PM
41 moa!!?? ya at are you shooting and how far? :chuckle:hey the creedmoor was 41 minutes at 1187 today remember :chuckle:
That’s utilizing the ballistic superiority of the 6.5 bullets!
But did you count all the clicks?
Post by: Karl Blanchard on July 14, 2019, 08:04:30 PM
yes. I'm the rain man of of the come up :chuckle:41 moa!!?? ya at are you shooting and how far? :chuckle:hey the creedmoor was 41 minutes at 1187 today remember :chuckle:
That’s utilizing the ballistic superiority of the 6.5 bullets!
But did you count all the clicks?
Post by: yorketransport on July 16, 2019, 07:33:00 PM
Post by: Bushcraft on July 16, 2019, 09:38:19 PM
41 moa!!?? ya at are you shooting and how far? :chuckle:
If memory serves, I think I just grabbed a short-barreled 30Hate with a rainbow trajectory out of the gun library. 984ish at sea level.
Super lethal on baby mice at that range. Haha!