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Title: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: huntnfmly on October 20, 2019, 07:07:33 PM
Just finished watching his blue mountains bull hunt if you haven't seen it yet it's a good episode and huge bull.
On Netflix season 8 episode 2
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: X-Force on October 20, 2019, 07:18:52 PM
definitely a fun hunt and adventure.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: millerwheeler on October 20, 2019, 07:20:40 PM
Just wait for all the replies that he ruined the unit and ruined a tag opportunity and blah blah it was never a secret people
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: elkchaser54 on October 20, 2019, 07:30:55 PM
Yea blue mountain units are so small it's not like there is that many trailheads in the unit. It's not a secret when its listed as a quality unit tag . I was deer hunting Dayton today and saw a couple nice ones but nothing like Rinellas, those one take a lot of work to find.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: millerwheeler on October 20, 2019, 08:07:24 PM
Yea blue mountain units are so small it's not like there is that many trailheads in the unit. It's not a secret when its listed as a quality unit tag . I was deer hunting Dayton today and saw a couple nice ones but nothing like Rinellas, those one take a lot of work to find.
every unit with work has something super special to offer . My point was people get all bent out of shape  like it's was a secret  and it for sure wasn't .  We should all say good for him .  Sorry to thread jack ya love the show and Steve's podcast I don't agree with everything he says but the guy is pretty awesome and has a passion for the outdoors like no other  :IBCOOL:
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: Tracker0721 on October 20, 2019, 08:41:35 PM
Yeah I thought that was crazy when they bumped it after a few hours of letting it die. The hit was back but it didnít look that far back compared to what Iíve seen. Good episode though and very nice bulls
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: the1rod on October 20, 2019, 09:38:06 PM
Just watched it last night.  Great bull,  and great documentation of how s**t happens sometimes. Great of him to keep after it and great for the other hunter for helping with the recovery. I'm glad this new breed of hunting show is all about the adventure and reality of hunting,  and shows the true ups and downs of what we do.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: elkchaser54 on October 20, 2019, 10:19:48 PM
I was hoping it made more people apply for the mountain view and less for the other units down there so I could finally draw a tag but that didn't work for me haha .  The episode will be sportsman channel next sunday for those non Netflix kinda people.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: elkrack on October 21, 2019, 12:31:14 AM
That was a stud bull!
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: jstone on October 22, 2019, 09:43:02 AM
Watched it last night
Dandy bull..!!!
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: frazierw on October 22, 2019, 09:45:51 AM
I thought the story the episode told and the story he told on the podcast were pretty different.  On the episode he alluded to losing a little meat, but on the podcast he made it seem like they lost about half the elk.  Also, the story of how he found the bull seemed to be different on the podcast compared to the Netflix episode, if I remember correctly.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: boneaddict on October 22, 2019, 09:59:28 AM
One of the few spots I actually have hunted and know down there and planned to do more photography, so I wasnt super impressed with the publicity it got, but thats the way it is these days.  I guess I'm glad someone could make a buck off it
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: Karl Blanchard on October 22, 2019, 10:17:03 AM
I thought the story the episode told and the story he told on the podcast were pretty different.  On the episode he alluded to losing a little meat, but on the podcast he made it seem like they lost about half the elk.  Also, the story of how he found the bull seemed to be different on the podcast compared to the Netflix episode, if I remember correctly.
hard to convey the detail of a hunt in a 20 min episode vs a 2hr podcast.  Similar to the book vs movie  :twocents:
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: justyhntr on October 22, 2019, 12:00:19 PM
Just watched it last night.  Great bull,  and great documentation of how s**t happens sometimes. Great of him to keep after it and great for the other hunter for helping with the recovery. I'm glad this new breed of hunting show is all about the adventure and reality of hunting,  and shows the true ups and downs of what we do.

Pretty sure this is the Chris that helped him out, he doesn't mention anything about it but does make reference to 5 guys talking and spooking off a bull he was after. Good video.

Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: D-Rock425 on October 22, 2019, 12:07:21 PM
Just wait for all the replies that he ruined the unit and ruined a tag opportunity and blah blah it was never a secret people
draw odds definitely got harder for archery in the unit this year.  I don't think it's totally his fault.  I think the decreased tag numbers for the Yakima are GMUS had people looking at other tags to apply for. 
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: millerwheeler on October 22, 2019, 12:45:01 PM
Just wait for all the replies that he ruined the unit and ruined a tag opportunity and blah blah it was never a secret people
draw odds definitely got harder for archery in the unit this year.  I don't think it's totally his fault.  I think the decreased tag numbers for the Yakima are GMUS had people looking at other tags to apply for.

I'm sure that has a much larger role to play in it.  Not to mention that archery and muzzle  hunters are in the road looking for better season , opportunity   and less people  probably isn't helping just was laughable she  in some of the other posts they blame meateater directly . Until  we see change on predator management,  actually having bios  in the field looking at the real picture of what's going on we will see harder odds and declines everywhere and of course the most popular areas will hurt first
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: Odell on October 31, 2019, 04:28:51 PM
Just wait for all the replies that he ruined the unit and ruined a tag opportunity and blah blah it was never a secret people

I guess I don't really understand the logic of this. Nothing is a secret. But there are still lots of people who don't know where to apply and don't know the first thing about certain units. Shoot I had a hunter try to turn me in for poaching for using a rifle in september when I posted a picture of me on the high buck hunt.  This is a guy who has been hunting 30 years in WA and had never heard of the high buck hunt.

Normal etiquette in the internet age is to avoid naming spots. Just because a hunt is hard to draw doesn't mean it can't get harder. This bump in applications was predicted and a bunch of people were quick to defend Rinella and said it wouldn't happen. It happened and now people are saying "well its because of season dates, etc..."

I don't really understand why people defend Rinella on this when he himself called it the greatest regret of his professional career. We don't have to keep dragging him but lets not pretend it was ok.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: huntnfmly on October 31, 2019, 06:19:09 PM
Just wait for all the replies that he ruined the unit and ruined a tag opportunity and blah blah it was never a secret people

I guess I don't really understand the logic of this. Nothing is a secret. But there are still lots of people who don't know where to apply and don't know the first thing about certain units. Shoot I had a hunter try to turn me in for poaching for using a rifle in september when I posted a picture of me on the high buck hunt.  This is a guy who has been hunting 30 years in WA and had never heard of the high buck hunt.

Normal etiquette in the internet age is to avoid naming spots. Just because a hunt is hard to draw doesn't mean it can't get harder. This bump in applications was predicted and a bunch of people were quick to defend Rinella and said it wouldn't happen. It happened and now people are saying "well its because of season dates, etc..."

I don't really understand why people defend Rinella on this when he himself called it the greatest regret of his professional career. We don't have to keep dragging him but lets not pretend it was ok.
Sorry but this gets old people acting like it's their special area just because other people might not know about a certain tag.
The special tags are no secret get over it this is why is as sportsman are losing the battle with antis they love reading these type of divides
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: millerwheeler on October 31, 2019, 07:35:11 PM
Just wait for all the replies that he ruined the unit and ruined a tag opportunity and blah blah it was never a secret people

I guess I don't really understand the logic of this. Nothing is a secret. But there are still lots of people who don't know where to apply and don't know the first thing about certain units. Shoot I had a hunter try to turn me in for poaching for using a rifle in september when I posted a picture of me on the high buck hunt.  This is a guy who has been hunting 30 years in WA and had never heard of the high buck hunt.

Normal etiquette in the internet age is to avoid naming spots. Just because a hunt is hard to draw doesn't mean it can't get harder. This bump in applications was predicted and a bunch of people were quick to defend Rinella and said it wouldn't happen. It happened and now people are saying "well its because of season dates, etc..."

I don't really understand why people defend Rinella on this when he himself called it the greatest regret of his professional career. We don't have to keep dragging him but lets not pretend 

 O it's totally ok could  care less if he name the dang coordinates at the end of the day  there will be animals there again , there will be hunters there again . And about the extra people putting in for draws most people don't even know the areas they apply for so who really cares you should in fact thank him since  hunting is on the fall  and if anything he created more interest to possible first  time hunters.      And your wait the age of the internet nothing should surprise ya   people have already been there  . And someone will always get a bigger animal at some point no really that big of a deal great for him
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: elkchaser54 on November 01, 2019, 04:14:45 AM
I'd guess close to 50% of people drawn in the blues have never been there before or it's been ten years.  I wished more people would watch his hunt and see how vertical that country truly is. The only roads are on the tops and the elk live in the bottoms. Did that just give away too much blue mountain secrets ?? Your draw odds are less then a point 1 percent chance, 30 or 40 more people in the draw affects it so minuscule.  But let's keep debating this cause I need more entertainment!!!!!
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: nwwanderer on November 01, 2019, 05:01:26 AM
Been there, done that and the T-shirt smelled like the dead bull!!! 
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: Stein on November 01, 2019, 07:22:17 AM
There are elk in the blues?  How do I get a tag?

Honestly, to call that tag a secret is like saying it's a secret there are salmon on Possession Bar in September.  You could look at the applicants/tag in WDFW's regs, the percentage of 6 pt harvest, look it up in Eastman's, GoHunt, this board, any board, Facebook, YouTube or just ask the random elk hunter on the street where he wants a tag.

It may be changing, but that was the go-to place to apply if you want a crack at a big bull.  This is coming from someone that didn't grow up here, is largely self taught and has been to the Blues exactly once with a deer tag.

Every elk state has one or two of these places and they are not secret in any way.

The good news is you won't see a flood of out of state people applying for the Blues after watching the show.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 01, 2019, 08:18:55 AM
Just wait for all the replies that he ruined the unit and ruined a tag opportunity and blah blah it was never a secret people

I guess I don't really understand the logic of this. Nothing is a secret. But there are still lots of people who don't know where to apply and don't know the first thing about certain units. Shoot I had a hunter try to turn me in for poaching for using a rifle in september when I posted a picture of me on the high buck hunt.  This is a guy who has been hunting 30 years in WA and had never heard of the high buck hunt.

Normal etiquette in the internet age is to avoid naming spots. Just because a hunt is hard to draw doesn't mean it can't get harder. This bump in applications was predicted and a bunch of people were quick to defend Rinella and said it wouldn't happen. It happened and now people are saying "well its because of season dates, etc..."

I don't really understand why people defend Rinella on this when he himself called it the greatest regret of his professional career. We don't have to keep dragging him but lets not pretend it was ok.
Sorry but this gets old people acting like it's their special area just because other people might not know about a certain tag.
The special tags are no secret get over it this is why is as sportsman are losing the battle with antis they love reading these type of divides

I think this is a non-issue, at least in this thread.  :dunno: "...old people..."  :chuckle: You very, very funny.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: Mr Mykiss on November 01, 2019, 08:19:48 AM
The long and short of it is that this whole fiasco changed the odds from say 2.5% to 0.4% odds with 15 points...or thereabouts. Odds are terrible, they were always terrible...but now they're 5x more terribuller.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 01, 2019, 08:32:06 AM
Well, I guess someone is having an issue - my bad.

The long and short of it is that this whole fiasco changed the odds from say 2.5% to 0.4% odds with 15 points...or thereabouts. Odds are terrible, they were always terrible...but now they're 5x more terribuller.

The year I moved here 30 years ago, I knew about the Blues and their bulls. I doubt very much that this show is going to increase the pressure on tags by 5 times. By your thinking, should hunting shows not say where the host is hunting? Should there be no hunting shows? Do you not see a value in what Rinella does for hunting and it's public profile? What about all of the YouTube videos of people taking down big bulls? Are they ruining your chances, too? Some of those have tens of thousands of views.  :dunno: I hope you draw a nice tag with all of your points and personally, don't think that a positive show about hunting is going to have much effect on that.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: idaho guy on November 01, 2019, 08:45:29 AM
I'd guess close to 50% of people drawn in the blues have never been there before or it's been ten years.  I wished more people would watch his hunt and see how vertical that country truly is. The only roads are on the tops and the elk live in the bottoms. Did that just give away too much blue mountain secrets ?? Your draw odds are less then a point 1 percent chance, 30 or 40 more people in the draw affects it so minuscule.  But let's keep debating this cause I need more entertainment!!!!!
   

this is entertaining in an irritating way  :chuckle: I don't even live in Washington and have never had a big game tag there AND I knew that was the area to put in for. This paranoia over ruining draw odds that start with .0 then a number is hilarious. That's like announcing someone won 200 million in the lottery and damn were all screwed now everyone will play!! there goes our odds on the lottery  :chuckle:. The only negative possibly would be a flood of out of state hunters to start putting in and with how Washington has it set up for out of state hunters that will likely NEVER happen. Unless a miracle happens and Washington starts having Arizona type elk to hunt. Washington is way to expensive to justify applying as a non resident unless you have another reason to hunt otc there and very few hunters do.   
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: idaho guy on November 01, 2019, 08:48:53 AM
The long and short of it is that this whole fiasco changed the odds from say 2.5% to 0.4% odds with 15 points...or thereabouts. Odds are terrible, they were always terrible...but now they're 5x more terribuller.

Is that because of more applicants or less tags available?
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: banishd on November 01, 2019, 08:50:44 AM
Only people with a TV show put in for non res tags in Washington as they can actually get drawn somehow............
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: millerwheeler on November 01, 2019, 09:16:16 AM
Only people with a TV show put in for non res tags in Washington as they can actually get drawn somehow............


Actually he was a resident  at time of drawing
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: Sutherland on November 01, 2019, 09:23:41 AM
 :yeah:
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: TriggerMike on November 01, 2019, 09:46:40 AM
Just wait for all the replies that he ruined the unit and ruined a tag opportunity and blah blah it was never a secret people

I guess I don't really understand the logic of this. Nothing is a secret. But there are still lots of people who don't know where to apply and don't know the first thing about certain units. Shoot I had a hunter try to turn me in for poaching for using a rifle in september when I posted a picture of me on the high buck hunt.  This is a guy who has been hunting 30 years in WA and had never heard of the high buck hunt.

Normal etiquette in the internet age is to avoid naming spots. Just because a hunt is hard to draw doesn't mean it can't get harder. This bump in applications was predicted and a bunch of people were quick to defend Rinella and said it wouldn't happen. It happened and now people are saying "well its because of season dates, etc..."

I don't really understand why people defend Rinella on this when he himself called it the greatest regret of his professional career. We don't have to keep dragging him but lets not pretend it was ok.

When did he say he regretted it? I'd like to hear it and the context if you can point me in the right direction.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: Odell on November 01, 2019, 12:36:33 PM
Just wait for all the replies that he ruined the unit and ruined a tag opportunity and blah blah it was never a secret people

I guess I don't really understand the logic of this. Nothing is a secret. But there are still lots of people who don't know where to apply and don't know the first thing about certain units. Shoot I had a hunter try to turn me in for poaching for using a rifle in september when I posted a picture of me on the high buck hunt.  This is a guy who has been hunting 30 years in WA and had never heard of the high buck hunt.

Normal etiquette in the internet age is to avoid naming spots. Just because a hunt is hard to draw doesn't mean it can't get harder. This bump in applications was predicted and a bunch of people were quick to defend Rinella and said it wouldn't happen. It happened and now people are saying "well its because of season dates, etc..."

I don't really understand why people defend Rinella on this when he himself called it the greatest regret of his professional career. We don't have to keep dragging him but lets not pretend it was ok.

When did he say he regretted it? I'd like to hear it and the context if you can point me in the right direction.

Itís in one of the podcasts after the elk hunt. He directly addressed it, apologized and talked about how wrong it was, how bad he felt for the people who helped him with info, etc.

He also addressed the issue overall, how he understands the sensitivity of showing up on public land with a big film crew, he knows it bums people out, how media exposure hurts hunting areas and how hard they normally work to not give details because it negatively affects areas and the people who hunt there.

There was a lot of talk about it here if you do a search. Iíve got no idea which episode but itís just a few weeks after the one where they talked about the hunt. But that one might have gotten taken down, not really sure.


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Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: Hoythunter on November 01, 2019, 12:46:01 PM
I recall his apology.  If I ever met him, Iíd shake his hand and say apology accepted.  Yes, I too apply for this unit.  Heís a stand up guy and does way more good for the hunting industry than bad.  Iíve been told heís as sincere behind the camera as he is in front. 
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: ctwiggs1 on November 01, 2019, 12:58:27 PM
You guys gotta remember to check your sources here.

@Odell has been a long time hater of Rinella.  Take what he says with a grain of salt  :twocents:

Odell.... I feel like if I ever meet you in person, I should probably be the one buying beer/coffee for the trolling that's happened over the last year  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: Odell on November 01, 2019, 01:00:00 PM
The long and short of it is that this whole fiasco changed the odds from say 2.5% to 0.4% odds with 15 points...or thereabouts. Odds are terrible, they were always terrible...but now they're 5x more terribuller.

Is that because of more applicants or less tags available?

one year increase after the episode:

64% increase in Archery applicants
145% increase in Muzzy applicants

Not sure if tags went down, but if they did that is even worse. Like I said earlier, just because it was a hard tag to draw doesn't mean this doesn't hurt. Those are massive increases.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: Odell on November 01, 2019, 01:01:51 PM
You guys gotta remember to check your sources here.

@Odell has been a long time hater of Rinella.  Take what he says with a grain of salt  :twocents:

Odell.... I feel like if I ever meet you in person, I should probably be the one buying beer/coffee for the trolling that's happened over the last year  :chuckle:

LOL I thought we did meet, or did I meet your brother?

I don't hate Rinella I actually like him mostly. I just don't let him turn me into a 14 year old at justin bieber concert.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: Odell on November 01, 2019, 01:03:33 PM
I recall his apology.  If I ever met him, Iíd shake his hand and say apology accepted.  Yes, I too apply for this unit.  Heís a stand up guy and does way more good for the hunting industry than bad.  Iíve been told heís as sincere behind the camera as he is in front.

It was a good apology and I agree with you.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: ctwiggs1 on November 01, 2019, 01:04:23 PM
The long and short of it is that this whole fiasco changed the odds from say 2.5% to 0.4% odds with 15 points...or thereabouts. Odds are terrible, they were always terrible...but now they're 5x more terribuller.

Is that because of more applicants or less tags available?

one year increase after the episode:

64% increase in Archery applicants
145% increase in Muzzy applicants

Not sure if tags went down, but if they did that is even worse. Like I said earlier, just because it was a hard tag to draw doesn't mean this doesn't hurt. Those are massive increases.

WDFW already confirmed that those increases are due to climate change though.  Still no evidence that Rinella has done anything wrong.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: ctwiggs1 on November 01, 2019, 01:05:05 PM
You guys gotta remember to check your sources here.

@Odell has been a long time hater of Rinella.  Take what he says with a grain of salt  :twocents:

Odell.... I feel like if I ever meet you in person, I should probably be the one buying beer/coffee for the trolling that's happened over the last year  :chuckle:

LOL I thought we did meet, or did I meet your brother?

I don't hate Rinella I actually like him mostly. I just don't let him turn me into a 14 year old at justin bieber concert.

I know my hunting partner met you under less fortunate circumstances toward the end of last summer.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: Hoythunter on November 01, 2019, 01:06:22 PM
You guys gotta remember to check your sources here.

@Odell has been a long time hater of Rinella.  Take what he says with a grain of salt  :twocents:

Odell.... I feel like if I ever meet you in person, I should probably be the one buying beer/coffee for the trolling that's happened over the last year  :chuckle:

LOL I thought we did meet, or did I meet your brother?

I don't hate Rinella I actually like him mostly. I just don't let him turn me into a 14 year old at justin bieber concert.

14 yr old at a JB concert... that made me chuckle.  Iíll have to use that someday.  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 01, 2019, 01:06:29 PM
I recall his apology.  If I ever met him, Iíd shake his hand and say apology accepted.  Yes, I too apply for this unit.  Heís a stand up guy and does way more good for the hunting industry than bad.  Iíve been told heís as sincere behind the camera as he is in front.

We lost a member to the Taliban about 5 years ago, I think. It was an event that shocked all of us. We were doing auctions to raise money for his family and I wrote to Steve to see if there was anything he could send. He immediately sent a nice package of stuff from his show with an autographed poster, hat, all kinds of stuff. I think the package he sent ended up raising a couple hundred bucks. He is a stand-up guy and as descent off as on-camera.  :tup:
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: Odell on November 01, 2019, 01:07:50 PM
You guys gotta remember to check your sources here.

@Odell has been a long time hater of Rinella.  Take what he says with a grain of salt  :twocents:

Odell.... I feel like if I ever meet you in person, I should probably be the one buying beer/coffee for the trolling that's happened over the last year  :chuckle:

LOL I thought we did meet, or did I meet your brother?

I don't hate Rinella I actually like him mostly. I just don't let him turn me into a 14 year old at justin bieber concert.

I know my hunting partner met you under less fortunate circumstances toward the end of last summer.

Thats it. Did you guys go bear hunting this year?
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: ctwiggs1 on November 01, 2019, 01:10:52 PM
Sent ya a PM so we can keep this on track.  Rinella is the man and anybody who says anything that can be in any way taken as offensive toward him is wrong. 

Oh, and climate change.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: Odell on November 01, 2019, 01:12:12 PM
Sent ya a PM so we can keep this on track.  Rinella is the man and anybody who says anything that can be in any way taken as offensive toward him is wrong. 

Oh, and climate change.

You should get a poster of him and hang it in your bedroom.  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: Hoythunter on November 01, 2019, 01:15:49 PM
Sent ya a PM so we can keep this on track.  Rinella is the man and anybody who says anything that can be in any way taken as offensive toward him is wrong. 

Oh, and climate change.

You should get a poster of him and hang it in your bedroom.  :chuckle:

The guy is on fire!! 
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: ctwiggs1 on November 01, 2019, 01:30:32 PM
I've thought about that but it never really looks right when I put stuff over my custom Meateater wallpaper  :dunno:
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: Mr Mykiss on November 01, 2019, 05:09:51 PM
Any of yíall buy that ďmeateater whiskeyĒ they put out there? Iím sure it sold out in 3 minutes. Kinda like wearing a flat brimmed hat with some other dudes name on it...what exactly is going on here?
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: ctwiggs1 on November 01, 2019, 09:42:21 PM
I canít bring myself to spend that much on any whiskey, much less some private label spinoff brand.

Knowing my in-laws I would be a bit surprised if I didnít get a bottle for Christmas though.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: TriggerMike on November 05, 2019, 07:25:32 PM
Just wait for all the replies that he ruined the unit and ruined a tag opportunity and blah blah it was never a secret people

I guess I don't really understand the logic of this. Nothing is a secret. But there are still lots of people who don't know where to apply and don't know the first thing about certain units. Shoot I had a hunter try to turn me in for poaching for using a rifle in september when I posted a picture of me on the high buck hunt.  This is a guy who has been hunting 30 years in WA and had never heard of the high buck hunt.

Normal etiquette in the internet age is to avoid naming spots. Just because a hunt is hard to draw doesn't mean it can't get harder. This bump in applications was predicted and a bunch of people were quick to defend Rinella and said it wouldn't happen. It happened and now people are saying "well its because of season dates, etc..."

I don't really understand why people defend Rinella on this when he himself called it the greatest regret of his professional career. We don't have to keep dragging him but lets not pretend it was ok.

When did he say he regretted it? I'd like to hear it and the context if you can point me in the right direction.

Itís in one of the podcasts after the elk hunt. He directly addressed it, apologized and talked about how wrong it was, how bad he felt for the people who helped him with info, etc.

He also addressed the issue overall, how he understands the sensitivity of showing up on public land with a big film crew, he knows it bums people out, how media exposure hurts hunting areas and how hard they normally work to not give details because it negatively affects areas and the people who hunt there.

There was a lot of talk about it here if you do a search. Iíve got no idea which episode but itís just a few weeks after the one where they talked about the hunt. But that one might have gotten taken down, not really sure.


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That makes it even more annoying! How could he have such a bad brain fart?  :bash: That's pretty crazy how much the applicants increased. Also crazy that a guy who lived in Washington for only a couple years, draws an essentially OIL tag with 3 points then kills a monster bull for his TV show and then proceeds to blast the GMU all over his social media and Podcast  :bash: Listening to the podcast makes me not like any of them so I stopped listening in order to be able to watch the show and enjoy it as just a good show, and not "Rinella's" show.

BTW that Justin Bieber comment had me rolling  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: Sandberm on November 05, 2019, 07:49:41 PM
I watched the show and enjoyed it. So how long does it take for the Meateater effect to wear off and its back to normal?

It seems like any show about any particular area is going to increase traffic, desire, to be there. We love the outdoor shows untill they highlight the area we like to be in then we whine.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: Chesapeake on November 06, 2019, 01:46:38 PM
When the Hunting and Fishing Washington magazine would run articles highlighting your hunting spot it seemed like it took about 2 years for things to calm down afterwards. Maybe this will be similar. Maybe not though as folks will continue to find it each year when they do internet research. The gift that keeps on giving.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: 2MANY on November 06, 2019, 02:50:20 PM
Steve is just looking to pad his ego and willing to walk over any hunter in his way.

Pathetic.

Just another example of someone profiting off our wildlife.

Hunting was way better before technology.

A coincidence???

I think not.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 07, 2019, 08:09:22 AM
Which hunter did Steve walk over who was in his way? Lots of people profit off of our wildlife. Small businesses like taxis, hotels and motels, restaurants, gas stations, and sporting goods stores. And quite a few of these in SE WA will profit more from his episode in the Blues. Our economy will benefit from his show. His show is also one of the only hunting shows that made it into the mainstream on Netflix and his emphasis on ethics and getting the most use out of the animals he kills improves the image of hunters overall with the other 95% of non-hunters. What's pathetic is selfishly being bitter because he may have made it harder for you to obtain a tag instead of seeing the greater good of what he does for the image of hunting and more specifically, the economy in WA which supports that hunting.  :twocents:
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: ctwiggs1 on November 07, 2019, 08:30:58 AM
I don't think Rinella needs one of the Blue Mountain bulls to pad his ego. 

If he wants to brag, he has a pretty long history of accomplishments he can rely on.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: jstone on November 07, 2019, 08:41:46 AM
I personally enjoy his show. He covers every aspect of hunting. And he is not some over dramatic hunter jumping around screaming after his kill.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: 2MANY on November 07, 2019, 09:26:14 AM
Keep your mouth shut or ruin the spot.

It's that simple.

Not a fan.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: fishngamereaper on November 07, 2019, 04:10:41 PM
Glad to see we still eat our own.. that's going to get us a long ways against the anti's...your spot, his spot, my spot...it gets old..the age of the internet can get you any info about any GMU u need nationwide...I respect the meat eater guys. They represent a group of hunter's that truly seem to care about the game they pursue...he eats marrow for crips sake..at a time when hunter numbers are dwindling we need someone in the spot light that represents what we need to convey... sportsmanship and respect for that which we pursue...

Not some redneck in a blind watching a feeder and 30 deer waiting to hunt up the one he's been watching all year...sorry rant over.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: Mulie87 on November 07, 2019, 05:10:42 PM
 So after reading this post I watched the meat eater episode last night. I donít get what all the hype is about. Yes he said he was in South East Washington, in the blue mountains, but he did not say what GMU or what city he was close to or what roads to take or what drainage he was in. Look at the other hunting shows, they will say where theyíre at. Randy Newburgh will tell you exactly where heís at. I remember a show that used to be on a hunting channel and Okanogan guid services (?) was on it a couple times. He told everybody exactly where they are hunting.....Okanogan, which os a pretty popular place to deer hunt. Even if hunters from out of state know a geographical location in our state to hunt from the shows, they donít know the honey holes like we do. We do the same thing, we watched hunting shows and some of us go to other states to hunt their animals after we learn about them these shows, itís life. We will be fine!!
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: Scheindogg on November 07, 2019, 05:14:36 PM
So after reading this post I watched the meat eater episode last night. I donít get what all the hype is about. Yes he said he was in South East Washington, in the blue mountains, but he did not say what GMU or what city he was close to or what roads to take or what drainage he was in. Look at the other hunting shows, they will say where theyíre at. Randy Newburgh will tell you exactly where heís at. I remember a show that used to be on a hunting channel and Okanogan guid services (?) was on it a couple times. He told everybody exactly where they are hunting.....Okanogan, which os a pretty popular place to deer hunt. Even if hunters from out of state know a geographical location in our state to hunt from the shows, they donít know the honey holes like we do. We do the same thing, we watched hunting shows and some of us go to other states to hunt their animals after we learn about them these shows, itís life. We will be fine!!

Most are referring to his podcast where he dished out MUCH more detail
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: Odell on November 07, 2019, 08:37:58 PM
So after reading this post I watched the meat eater episode last night. I donít get what all the hype is about. Yes he said he was in South East Washington, in the blue mountains, but he did not say what GMU or what city he was close to or what roads to take or what drainage he was in. Look at the other hunting shows, they will say where theyíre at. Randy Newburgh will tell you exactly where heís at. I remember a show that used to be on a hunting channel and Okanogan guid services (?) was on it a couple times. He told everybody exactly where they are hunting.....Okanogan, which os a pretty popular place to deer hunt. Even if hunters from out of state know a geographical location in our state to hunt from the shows, they donít know the honey holes like we do. We do the same thing, we watched hunting shows and some of us go to other states to hunt their animals after we learn about them these shows, itís life. We will be fine!!

On the podcast he named the unit and even the trailhead/how to access. He spent a lot of time talking about the specifics of it
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: 2MANY on November 08, 2019, 10:13:35 AM
Him protecting us from the anti's is a joke.

The anti's are a bunch of fern feeling wimps.

They will never shut us down.

Human overpopulation will.

Marrow eater should train his mouth.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 08, 2019, 10:21:01 AM
Him protecting us from the anti's is a joke.

The anti's are a bunch of fern feeling wimps.

They will never shut us down.


Human overpopulation will.

Marrow eater should train his mouth.

Are you kidding with this? The antis have shut down hunting in areas all over the country. There are constant and ongoing attacks on hunting. We've seen it in our own state with hounds and baiting. We need ambassadors who can reach out to the majority of voters and show them that what we do is right and that it's true conservation. You're shooting at the wrong side on this one.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: cavemann on November 08, 2019, 10:21:38 AM
20,000 members on a hunting site talking about draw odds, siting all the quality tags looking for success pics, sharing information and details of the hunt.  PM's sent to those who drew the tags and even going out to help..  And Rinella is the problem, if there is one???  If you have an issue with Rinella I hope you don't post on this site.

To be clear, I love this site and don't think it's a problem...  It's helped me immensely fill tags due to what I've learned, so I guess I'm hurting the community as well.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: 2MANY on November 08, 2019, 10:31:10 AM
I think he should NOT promote specific areas.

Ever.

Period.

If you disagree I could care less.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: Sundance on November 08, 2019, 10:34:50 AM
Him protecting us from the anti's is a joke.

This may be true, but for the vast majority of non-hunters Rinella is a better advocate for the hunting community over some of the more traditional hunting celebrities. For a person with no background in the wildlife conservation or hunting, Rinella's approach and philosophy is easier and more agreeable then that of a high fence safari hunter.

The anti's are a bunch of fern feeling wimps.

This may also be true, but those fern feeling wimps have been instrumental in having hound hunting, bear baiting and body-gripping traps banned along with the wolf situation shoved down our throats.

They will never shut us down.

See above, they have slowly chipped away at the hunting community's opportunities and certain user groups. I don't think they are going to let up anytime soon with the current WA government being controlled by the Democrats.

Human overpopulation will.

Couldn't agree more along with loss of habitat.

Marrow eater should train his mouth.

Your opinion, I do feel that he is a great advocate for the hunting community and does well to educate people (especially non-hunters) about the hunting community and conservation. Episode 59 on his podcast was done at the Starbucks headquarters in Seattle, he talked with several audience members who identified as non-hunters and even anti's. He made some great points and did so in a respectful manner, if even 3 non-hunters walked away from that event with a better appreciation for hunters and conservation that's a win in my book.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: 2MANY on November 08, 2019, 10:36:44 AM
I think he should NOT promote specific areas.

Ever.

Period.

If you disagree I could care less.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: Odell on November 08, 2019, 11:40:18 AM
I think he should NOT promote specific areas.

Ever.

Period.

If you disagree I could care less.

Here is how right you are...HE thinks he should NOT promote specific areas. But you still have people saying its no problem. Funny thing, I haven't seen those people posting specific instructions on how to access and hunt their favorite areas.

Maybe we should start a thread for everyone to post up good hunting spots and how to get there. I could use some new west side duck spots
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: cavemann on November 08, 2019, 12:23:26 PM
cruising through the elk threads in less than 5 mins found ridge names, GMU's, Roads, how to access on a couple of the quality tags.  Same thing in deer threads.  I respect your opinion on what you think is right or wrong.  Just pointing out Rinella is not the first and only guy to do it.  Tons of first time posters come here as soon as they get a tag and plenty people helping out and waiting on pics and story.  What's the difference??

Does that not bring attention to quality tags and impact draw odds??  I mean, put in for those tags where guys are posting monsters on here..  Let everyone know you have it and plenty of help will come your way.  Why be on here if you don't like it?
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: WSU on November 08, 2019, 12:39:04 PM
There's a big difference between helping someone in private and putting it on the interwebz so everyone can see it forever.  I've helped people in private.  I've also got specific help from others in private.  None of it was broadcast for the world to see and never will be.

I like his shows, but I suspect Rinella knew better and regretted it later.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: cavemann on November 08, 2019, 12:47:31 PM
WSU..  I agree with your sentiment.  Point being there are plenty on here who have shared details, tags, units and even roads, ridges, elevations and specific details.  Those guys don't catch the same flack.  I'd agree we all have our opinions on what we share privately vs online.  Just saying Rinella seems to getting a lot more flack than others..  the biggest issue being because he said he was in the Blues now everyone knows.  Same can be said about all the special tags mentioned and discussed here..  Get a special tag, post your results and now everyone knows what animals are there..  There is no outrage about those tags now being broadcast.  Personally I don't share details publicly and have benefited via PM and a lot from you specifically.  I just don't think Rinella is now a villan for sharing what he did..  Would he do it different, sure.  I just don't think it was as outrageous as some have pointed out.  But I respect those who disagree.. Just my take.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on November 08, 2019, 12:49:21 PM
No one would have cared if Rhinella had come on here to share details, or better yet PM's. But his platform is much bigger than hunt wa. I get he is an ambassador to non hunters, but he needs to do his part to be respectful and remain in the good graces of his established hunting audience as well. Sharing the hunt is one thing, unfortunately that goes with the territory. Stop there. He apologized we will see if he sticks by it.

  Its the name of the game for these Public Land Filmers. I have largely stopped watching them. The negative impact  is eroding the once supportive attitude I had. I could sympathize with the BRO's, Rhinella etc...... But then they expanded into more and more areas, more states, more details. Instead of 90 minute video every couple years, that I looked forward to, it became a TV show, then a streaming channel with many hours of content. They quit jobs and careers to do podcasts, and other media outlets and chase the dream. I cant help but applaud that. But at the same time I no longer sympathized. They became less like me and just mainstream. I appreciate the message and positive perception these groups do a good job of portraying and hope it pays off long term. At the same time they need to realize the price being paid is steep by those who have enjoyed the lifestyle long before the LOTF (yes I have a hat :chuckle:) or meateater podcast was ever thought of.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: Odell on November 08, 2019, 01:12:48 PM
WSU..  I agree with your sentiment.  Point being there are plenty on here who have shared details, tags, units and even roads, ridges, elevations and specific details.  Those guys don't catch the same flack.  I'd agree we all have our opinions on what we share privately vs online.  Just saying Rinella seems to getting a lot more flack than others..  the biggest issue being because he said he was in the Blues now everyone knows.  Same can be said about all the special tags mentioned and discussed here..  Get a special tag, post your results and now everyone knows what animals are there..  There is no outrage about those tags now being broadcast.  Personally I don't share details publicly and have benefited via PM and a lot from you specifically.  I just don't think Rinella is now a villan for sharing what he did..  Would he do it different, sure.  I just don't think it was as outrageous as some have pointed out.  But I respect those who disagree.. Just my take.

Guys on here don't catch as much flack because they aren't doing it for a living and podcasting to a million people and don't have a TV show on Netflix. Don't you think that is a significant difference?

Beyond that, its really common on here for people to ask others to not name the unit/area/road when those posts pop up. I've had a pm on a forum asking me to crop a picture I posted just because it had a recognizable geographic feature in the back and I hadn't posted a single detail about where it was. For sure there is info on here that you could find. The question is do we want more specific info on the internet or less?
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: SeatoSummit88 on November 08, 2019, 01:55:37 PM
Hey why doesn't everyone start buying some chunks of land and quit bitching about someone "sharing secret hot spots"!

Every time I get on here all I see is people whining like a bunch of sandy vaginas about someone saying something about a spot, or how there are no places to hunt, it's the tree huggers, its the tribes, its the wolves, it's the prius's,it's Steve Rinella, its something else.  My God! 

Attention World: Washington State has Elk,Deer, Bear, Cougar, Wolves, Ducks, Fox, Otter, Pheasants, Quail, Chukar, Bobcats, Moose, Sheep, Goats, Squirrels, Chipmunks, Grouse, Mink, and other furry/feathered animals that can be hunted around the year.  But, please don't go here, here, here or here. Thank you!

The day you put that rifle/bow/pistol/smoke pole/spear in your F'n hand, you accepted the fact that you would be sharing a large area with other hunters. People must have much more time on their hands than I do to take the time to point out specific people, track tribal kills, ridge ares with most foot traffic. 

I use this site to see other's reports of their hunt, successful or not! As well as, classifieds, (what are others selling/what can I sell to other enthusiasts).

Why can't we stick to the basics, "Here's an animal I killed". "Here's a hunt experience I had". "Here's my kid finally getting into hunting". 

I hate jumping on to this site to see people bitching about "someone who opened their mouth and now the state has no hunting opportunities".


Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: elksnout on November 08, 2019, 07:31:30 PM
Hey why doesn't everyone start buying some chunks of land and quit bitching about someone "sharing secret hot spots"!

Every time I get on here all I see is people whining like a bunch of sandy vaginas about someone saying something about a spot, or how there are no places to hunt, it's the tree huggers, its the tribes, its the wolves, it's the prius's,it's Steve Rinella, its something else.  My God! 

Attention World: Washington State has Elk,Deer, Bear, Cougar, Wolves, Ducks, Fox, Otter, Pheasants, Quail, Chukar, Bobcats, Moose, Sheep, Goats, Squirrels, Chipmunks, Grouse, Mink, and other furry/feathered animals that can be hunted around the year.  But, please don't go here, here, here or here. Thank you!

The day you put that rifle/bow/pistol/smoke pole/spear in your F'n hand, you accepted the fact that you would be sharing a large area with other hunters. People must have much more time on their hands than I do to take the time to point out specific people, track tribal kills, ridge ares with most foot traffic. 

I use this site to see other's reports of their hunt, successful or not! As well as, classifieds, (what are others selling/what can I sell to other enthusiasts).

Why can't we stick to the basics, "Here's an animal I killed". "Here's a hunt experience I had". "Here's my kid finally getting into hunting". 

I hate jumping on to this site to see people bitching about "someone who opened their mouth and now the state has no hunting opportunities".



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OMG. This is the best post I've ever read on HW. Post of the year!! Well said and I couldn't agree more.

Elksnout

Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: Odell on November 08, 2019, 07:32:37 PM
Hey why doesn't everyone start buying some chunks of land and quit bitching about someone "sharing secret hot spots"!

Every time I get on here all I see is people whining like a bunch of sandy vaginas about someone saying something about a spot, or how there are no places to hunt, it's the tree huggers, its the tribes, its the wolves, it's the prius's,it's Steve Rinella, its something else.  My God! 

Attention World: Washington State has Elk,Deer, Bear, Cougar, Wolves, Ducks, Fox, Otter, Pheasants, Quail, Chukar, Bobcats, Moose, Sheep, Goats, Squirrels, Chipmunks, Grouse, Mink, and other furry/feathered animals that can be hunted around the year.  But, please don't go here, here, here or here. Thank you!

The day you put that rifle/bow/pistol/smoke pole/spear in your F'n hand, you accepted the fact that you would be sharing a large area with other hunters. People must have much more time on their hands than I do to take the time to point out specific people, track tribal kills, ridge ares with most foot traffic. 

I use this site to see other's reports of their hunt, successful or not! As well as, classifieds, (what are others selling/what can I sell to other enthusiasts).

Why can't we stick to the basics, "Here's an animal I killed". "Here's a hunt experience I had". "Here's my kid finally getting into hunting". 

I hate jumping on to this site to see people bitching about "someone who opened their mouth and now the state has no hunting opportunities".

Solid whine about people whining.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: Scheindogg on November 10, 2019, 06:58:02 AM
Anyone here actually watch Meateater? He actually seems to be fairly specific on his location in many of his hunts.
Naming which section of forest in Arizona he hunted Coues Deer (and saying you can easily get a tag there every year)
Think the people in Arizona feel the same way? Wonder if after that itís still that easy to get a tag every year
Or how about when he and Callaghan take Hellen and Brittany Elk hunting in Montana I cant remember the name but it showed ď____ hillsĒ  and it (like most episodesĒ highlighted the forest/hills on a map of Montana.

Those are just 2 quick examples.

Heís putting hunting under a good light and along the way sharing some spots he likes (in a way)
I think heís been a tad too specific on occasion but how about letís all celebrate the good things heís done for hunting and the outdoors and less about a hunt most of us would likely have never drawn anyways  :twocents:
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: 2MANY on November 10, 2019, 08:47:00 AM
I think he should NOT promote specific areas.

Ever.

Period.

If you disagree I could care less.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: EsotericPA on November 10, 2019, 10:20:11 AM
I personally think everyone should start training for the Blue Mountains as if they are getting drawn this year.  It's good for the heart.  :tup:
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: treefarmer on November 10, 2019, 10:47:06 AM
I just watched the episode and it actually discouraged me from applying.  To much walking and to far from roads
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: Odell on November 10, 2019, 10:49:20 AM
I personally think everyone should start training for the Blue Mountains as if they are getting drawn this year.  It's good for the heart.  :tup:

I had a spring bear hunt in Wenaha this year and that place is no joke!


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Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: funkster on November 10, 2019, 01:52:58 PM
With the over saturation of commercialized hunting shows, Steve puts out a good TV product that focuses on the full hunting experience. I also appreciate how he glorifies ethics and captures the terrain he hunts.

Iím not bothered by him taking the world along with him, even if that means showing hunts in a coveted area of Washington. Itís a limited entry unit, with poor general season success, good luck pulling the tag.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: 2MANY on November 10, 2019, 08:45:21 PM
I think he should NOT promote specific areas.

Ever.

Period.

If you disagree I could care less.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: Dan-o on November 10, 2019, 09:15:34 PM
I think he should NOT promote specific areas.

Ever.

Period.

If you disagree I could care less.

How do you really feel?
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: 2MANY on November 12, 2019, 08:03:26 AM
Loose Lips........Sink Ships!!!!
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: Mr Mykiss on November 13, 2019, 08:34:56 PM
As Iíve said before. Theyíre great ambassadors but I also agree with ďloose lipsĒ.

Karma?
The meateater crew has lost 3 or 4 bulls this year.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: 2MANY on November 14, 2019, 09:02:21 AM
Pretty pathetic in my opinion.

They damn near lost the Blues bull too.
If I remember right a hunt WA member found it.

Pressure of being "an ambassador" leads to crappy shot choices.

3 or 4 should be the max for one whole unit of hunters not one crew of professional meat eaters.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: KFhunter on November 14, 2019, 09:41:45 AM
Pretty pathetic in my opinion.

They damn near lost the Blues bull too.
If I remember right a hunt WA member found it.

Pressure of being "an ambassador" leads to crappy shot choices.

3 or 4 should be the max for one whole unit of hunters not one crew of professional meat eaters.

You go further than I would in condemning Rinella for his poor shot,  he could have edited all that out and not shown you his bad shot, not shown you the HW member who actually found the bull, then went out of his way to track down rinella to show him where his bull was, rinella could have shown you a picture perfect hunt on TV   

I give him a lot of credit for showing the good, the bad and the ugly. 
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: HntnFsh on November 14, 2019, 09:54:50 AM
Just out of curiosity I wonder if the huntwa member just stumbled on the bull. Or did he watch the hunt go down and took the initiative to find it?
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: KFhunter on November 14, 2019, 09:57:21 AM
Just out of curiosity I wonder if the huntwa member just stumbled on the bull. Or did he watch the hunt go down and took the initiative to find it?

The bull was on an open hillside in plain view from a mile off,  the HW member spotted the bull from across the way just laying there,  walked over to investigate, then tracked down the big camera crew everyone knew was filming a hunt   :chuckle:
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: 2MANY on November 14, 2019, 10:12:42 AM
I wonder if a clean kill or a poor shot is interpreted better or worse by the anti hunters this man supposedly helps us out with???
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: Platensek-po on November 14, 2019, 10:38:21 AM
As Iíve said before. Theyíre great ambassadors but I also agree with ďloose lipsĒ.

Karma?
The meateater crew has lost 3 or 4 bulls this year.

3 or 4?? I only know of one and then some of rinellas bull.

Pretty sure the way he shows his reaction and talks about how he feels after the bad shots means a lot more to most people than just showing a
Picture perfect hunt each time. But what do you care? You have already condemned him forever for talking about a public land hunt location.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: KFhunter on November 14, 2019, 11:03:56 AM
They lost 3-4 bulls???   What!??

I'm waiving the BS flag, unless someone can convince me otherwise  :dunno:
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: Odell on November 14, 2019, 11:08:33 AM
They lost 3-4 bulls???   What!??

I'm waiving the BS flag, unless someone can convince me otherwise  :dunno:

I think you have to keep up with the podcast and articles and read between the lines to get this info, I'm not current but heard about Ole Cal losing most of an Oregon bull after his shot broke the front leg and it fell like 600-700 feet. Died from the fall and was mush. He also lost a bull in maybe Arizona or New Mexico, forget which, where he arrowed a bull and they found it a few days later.

Could just be bad luck, could be that after a lot of rifle hunting they are hitting a re-learning curve with archery.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: Sundance on November 14, 2019, 11:15:54 AM
Anyone can have a crappy year. Of the 3 animals I've lost in my lifetime two were the same season and almost back-to-back. Nice forked horn in the western WA late rifle, then a cow in the late archery (about 10 days apart). That was a long, depressing winter. The next year I hit it with a new drive and had a perfect season. To each their own...
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: KFhunter on November 14, 2019, 11:17:17 AM
They lost 3-4 bulls???   What!??

I'm waiving the BS flag, unless someone can convince me otherwise  :dunno:

I think you have to keep up with the podcast and articles and read between the lines to get this info, I'm not current but heard about Ole Cal losing most of an Oregon bull after his shot broke the front leg and it fell like 600-700 feet. Died from the fall and was mush. He also lost a bull in maybe Arizona or New Mexico, forget which, where he arrowed a bull and they found it a few days later.

Could just be bad luck, could be that after a lot of rifle hunting they are hitting a re-learning curve with archery.

but that wasn't all in one year?
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: Odell on November 14, 2019, 11:19:59 AM
They lost 3-4 bulls???   What!??

I'm waiving the BS flag, unless someone can convince me otherwise  :dunno:

I think you have to keep up with the podcast and articles and read between the lines to get this info, I'm not current but heard about Ole Cal losing most of an Oregon bull after his shot broke the front leg and it fell like 600-700 feet. Died from the fall and was mush. He also lost a bull in maybe Arizona or New Mexico, forget which, where he arrowed a bull and they found it a few days later.

Could just be bad luck, could be that after a lot of rifle hunting they are hitting a re-learning curve with archery.

but that wasn't all in one year?

Those two for Cal are both this fall
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: Odell on November 14, 2019, 11:27:12 AM
Anyone can have a crappy year. Of the 3 animals I've lost in my lifetime two were the same season and almost back-to-back. Nice forked horn in the western WA late rifle, then a cow in the late archery (about 10 days apart). That was a long, depressing winter. The next year I hit it with a new drive and had a perfect season. To each their own...

I agree. A bad result can happen on the best shot. Its just human error and it happens to everyone. If its happening to someone taking 80 yard shots I'd be unhappy about it, but both of these sounded like good shot opportunities with a bad result. It has happened to me and it makes you sick. Talking about it is better than hiding it.

To the point raised about 3-4 in one year, there is an issue with all these hunting celebrities (not just MeatEater) where the desire or pressure to get an animal down and on instagram or youtube leads to riskier shots imo. Not saying that happened to Cal specifically but generally its a problem. 
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: Mr Mykiss on November 14, 2019, 11:32:48 AM
Just throwing it out there.
It happens.
As I preface each time I post on them specifically they are likely the greatest hunting and public land ambassadors we have today...actually I feel that is without question.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: KFhunter on November 14, 2019, 11:33:00 AM
I can agree with both of you in the last two posts,  but the statement: "the meateater crew has lost 3-4 bulls this year" is still shocking
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: Sundance on November 14, 2019, 11:36:12 AM
I judge their character based upon what happens after they lose an animal. If they beat themselves up over it as opposed to "no big deal" then that matters. Also if they go out and practice harder/start earlier I respect that. I went 10+ years without losing an animal archery hunting, definitely got a little cocky and up on my high horse. Lost two animals in under two weeks and came back down to earth extremely humbled. Damn near gave up archery until I bought better equipment and started shooting more frequently and three months earlier then usual. We all are going to fail eventually, it's what we do after failing that defines us.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: Odell on November 14, 2019, 11:42:38 AM
I judge their character based upon what happens after they lose an animal. If they beat themselves up over it as opposed to "no big deal" then that matters. Also if they go out and practice harder/start earlier I respect that. I went 10+ years without losing an animal archery hunting, definitely got a little cocky and up on my high horse. Lost two animals in under two weeks and came back down to earth extremely humbled. Damn near gave up archery until I bought better equipment and started shooting more frequently and three months earlier then usual. We all are going to fail eventually, it's what we do after failing that defines us.

A few years ago I was getting a little cocky with my hunting partners and they made me list out all my misses...turns out my kill/miss ratio is terrible and they remembered it more accurately than me. And I've hit and lost two animals in 10 years. A bit of humble pie is good for us all.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: whack em on November 14, 2019, 11:47:18 AM
I read through this entire thread...20 or so minutes of my life I will never get back. What am I walking away with? The thought that there are a lot of "keyboard cowboys" out there that are into beating the proverbial dead horse. United we stand divided we fall.
Admittedly I haven't listed to the podcast, but I thought the show did a decent enough job to portray us as a community in good light.  And the bull, well he's a dandy. 
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: JWEBB on November 18, 2019, 11:39:40 PM
Iím so sick and tired of all the folks backing this guy like they are his best friend. My family has hunted that unit since the 1930s and every local in that area is not ok with his broadcasting of the unit. Even talked to 2 local game wardens this season and they also agree that his big mouth was completely unacceptable. And yeah go ahead and keep saying that itís a quality hunt unit and everyone knows that. Keep up the bashing I can handle it.  :chuckle: Mtn view is way more than a quality hunt. Many generations have relied on this area to provide food for their family and still do. Way more to it than a trophy elk hunt! Maybe the draw wonít go up in apps dramatically but itís still completely unacceptable as a hunter to blast all these details out to everyone. The more talk, the more idiots in the unit. I always drive to all the campsites after the season and check for trash left behind. Iíve never had to pick up more trash as I had this year at campsites. Disgusting! Long story short, this isnít just a quality elk hunt. Itís a way of life for many and the original hunters of this area are completely disgusted with Steve
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: fishngamereaper on November 19, 2019, 05:17:22 AM
If you don't want the blues in the spotlight why keep responding to this thread...over 100 replies but over 7000 views. If you Google blue mountains hunting this thread is near the top..there are plenty of success threads on this and other websites that detail areas, blue's, colockum, peaches, etc..but I guess it's easier to cast stones..

I'm still pissed at meater eater because they ruined my go to mule deer spots...oh wait... they've never hunted my old spots...then why have they gone to crap...hmm, weird.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: B4noon on November 19, 2019, 06:58:42 AM
Iím so sick and tired of all the folks backing this guy like they are his best friend. My family has hunted that unit since the 1930s and every local in that area is not ok with his broadcasting of the unit. Even talked to 2 local game wardens this season and they also agree that his big mouth was completely unacceptable. And yeah go ahead and keep saying that itís a quality hunt unit and everyone knows that. Keep up the bashing I can handle it.  :chuckle: Mtn view is way more than a quality hunt. Many generations have relied on this area to provide food for their family and still do. Way more to it than a trophy elk hunt! Maybe the draw wonít go up in apps dramatically but itís still completely unacceptable as a hunter to blast all these details out to everyone. The more talk, the more idiots in the unit. I always drive to all the campsites after the season and check for trash left behind. Iíve never had to pick up more trash as I had this year at campsites. Disgusting! Long story short, this isnít just a quality elk hunt. Itís a way of life for many and the original hunters of this area are completely disgusted with Steve

Rinella didn't ruin a way of life  if anything he is about preserving a way of life.  His show is one of the few that has respect for the tradition and providing meat for the family the majority of hunting shows focus on the exact opposite they focus on the trophy aspect which only creates more individuals wanting to shift from opportunistic hunters providing meat to trophy hunters focused on a measuring tape.  Nothing torques me off more then watching some jackwang shoot a bull or buck on tv then watch as the unskinned ungutted rigamortis carcass is not being taken care of first instead they whip out a tape and calculator that is what has ruined your way of life.  When shows started getting more popular and a greater population shifted to trophy hunting thats when landowners who use to let you hunt for a simple knock on the door and a box of apples saw an opportunity to make money and close lands and start leasing and charging for access I have only ever heard of a trophy fee being charged to hunt not a way to provide meat for my family fee.  I totally agree with your frustrations my family hunts with the mindset of opportunist and meat and if we happen to get lucky on a nice animal once in awhile its a bonus.  To many people not enough open land to many predators to much technology the list goes on as to what has ruined a way of life and it certainly isn't one tv show it's many plus.  As said i totally agree and cant stand that hunting as a lifestyle has changed and i'm not sure its for the better and have to deal with it.  It is not a cost effective way to provide meat for the family anymore it would be cheaper to by beef but it is about the experience and it is great on the table for sure. Bottom line to many people and to much greed and not enough connection with the heritage land and wildlife in general is what has ruined hunting as a way of life and has turned it into a flat bill competition if SCI scores were measured in pounds of meat rather inches of horns the value of the trophy wouldn't exist for the competition to one up the next guy and not nearly as many people would be in your spot.  On a side note nobody is going to flock to the blues or anywhere else from out of state and i think some posts on this sites and facebook and other social media have created just as much or even more competition in some of our best spots in the state.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: 2MANY on November 19, 2019, 08:58:44 AM
Not a fan of giving locations.
People do it all the time when their needs have been met and the chance of going back is slim.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: Meathunter06 on November 19, 2019, 09:40:32 AM
Iím so sick and tired of all the folks backing this guy like they are his best friend. My family has hunted that unit since the 1930s and every local in that area is not ok with his broadcasting of the unit. Even talked to 2 local game wardens this season and they also agree that his big mouth was completely unacceptable. And yeah go ahead and keep saying that itís a quality hunt unit and everyone knows that. Keep up the bashing I can handle it.  :chuckle: Mtn view is way more than a quality hunt. Many generations have relied on this area to provide food for their family and still do. Way more to it than a trophy elk hunt! Maybe the draw wonít go up in apps dramatically but itís still completely unacceptable as a hunter to blast all these details out to everyone. The more talk, the more idiots in the unit. I always drive to all the campsites after the season and check for trash left behind. Iíve never had to pick up more trash as I had this year at campsites. Disgusting! Long story short, this isnít just a quality elk hunt. Itís a way of life for many and the original hunters of this area are completely disgusted with Steve

Rinella didn't ruin a way of life  if anything he is about preserving a way of life.  His show is one of the few that has respect for the tradition and providing meat for the family the majority of hunting shows focus on the exact opposite they focus on the trophy aspect which only creates more individuals wanting to shift from opportunistic hunters providing meat to trophy hunters focused on a measuring tape.  Nothing torques me off more then watching some jackwang shoot a bull or buck on tv then watch as the unskinned ungutted rigamortis carcass is not being taken care of first instead they whip out a tape and calculator that is what has ruined your way of life.  When shows started getting more popular and a greater population shifted to trophy hunting thats when landowners who use to let you hunt for a simple knock on the door and a box of apples saw an opportunity to make money and close lands and start leasing and charging for access I have only ever heard of a trophy fee being charged to hunt not a way to provide meat for my family fee.  I totally agree with your frustrations my family hunts with the mindset of opportunist and meat and if we happen to get lucky on a nice animal once in awhile its a bonus.  To many people not enough open land to many predators to much technology the list goes on as to what has ruined a way of life and it certainly isn't one tv show it's many plus.  As said i totally agree and cant stand that hunting as a lifestyle has changed and i'm not sure its for the better and have to deal with it.  It is not a cost effective way to provide meat for the family anymore it would be cheaper to by beef but it is about the experience and it is great on the table for sure. Bottom line to many people and to much greed and not enough connection with the heritage land and wildlife in general is what has ruined hunting as a way of life and has turned it into a flat bill competition if SCI scores were measured in pounds of meat rather inches of horns the value of the trophy wouldn't exist for the competition to one up the next guy and not nearly as many people would be in your spot.  On a side note nobody is going to flock to the blues or anywhere else from out of state and i think some posts on this sites and facebook and other social media have created just as much or even more competition in some of our best spots in the state.
:tup:
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: baker5150 on November 19, 2019, 09:54:13 AM
Iím so sick and tired of all the folks backing this guy like they are his best friend. My family has hunted that unit since the 1930s and every local in that area is not ok with his broadcasting of the unit. Even talked to 2 local game wardens this season and they also agree that his big mouth was completely unacceptable. And yeah go ahead and keep saying that itís a quality hunt unit and everyone knows that. Keep up the bashing I can handle it.  :chuckle: Mtn view is way more than a quality hunt. Many generations have relied on this area to provide food for their family and still do. Way more to it than a trophy elk hunt! Maybe the draw wonít go up in apps dramatically but itís still completely unacceptable as a hunter to blast all these details out to everyone. The more talk, the more idiots in the unit. I always drive to all the campsites after the season and check for trash left behind. Iíve never had to pick up more trash as I had this year at campsites. Disgusting! Long story short, this isnít just a quality elk hunt. Itís a way of life for many and the original hunters of this area are completely disgusted with Steve

You should put to practice your profile signature, those 3 words ring true in a situation like this.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: 2MANY on November 19, 2019, 10:06:07 AM
Steve is just selling what sells..........................units and all.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: idaho guy on November 20, 2019, 04:54:57 PM
I just watched his Idaho mule deer hunt its pretty good but I am pretty sure he screwed central Idaho deer hunting  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: Buckmark on November 20, 2019, 04:59:29 PM
Never hunted it or been there but i know what unit im putting in for now  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: Meathunter06 on November 20, 2019, 06:54:35 PM
Myself and all my buddies are putting in for that unit gonna text Steve for any tips that he could give me :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: davk on November 20, 2019, 09:26:10 PM
Just wait for all the replies that he ruined the unit and ruined a tag opportunity and blah blah it was never a secret people
Just because it is known doesnt make it known to everyone.  Most hunting spots are known by quite a few people.  You cant deny that he just fd over that unit.  I mean all of your spots are probably know by quite a few people.  Shouldnt be an issue to just broadcast them.  Lets just produce a map showing where they are.  NBD
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: Shoofly09 on November 20, 2019, 09:44:29 PM
If you don't want the blues in the spotlight why keep responding to this thread...over 100 replies but over 7000 views. If you Google blue mountains hunting this thread is near the top..there are plenty of success threads on this and other websites that detail areas, blue's, colockum, peaches, etc..but I guess it's easier to cast stones..

I'm still pissed at meater eater because they ruined my go to mule deer spots...oh wait... they've never hunted my old spots...then why have they gone to crap...hmm, weird.

Exactly this.........     Do you guys think that on average half the meat eater shows are in a new unit for some type of game and then that unit gets blown out?     That sounds naive.      I elk hunted this year on private farm land east of the Ochoco's in Oregon that historically has been covered up in elk.    Eight days of hunting, never even saw an elk.    Must be Steves fault (even though they haven't filed a show there)
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: 2MANY on November 21, 2019, 09:42:11 AM
Please post GPS and pictures of your best spot below.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: Odell on November 21, 2019, 11:01:08 AM
Please post GPS and pictures of your best spot below.

Exactly. No spot is a secret but telling more people always makes it worse.

The numbers don't lie, it happened but people still continue to be in denial. The man crush is strong in the hunting community.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: dvolmer on November 21, 2019, 11:34:04 AM
Overall, out door (hunting TV) television shows have hurt the sport more than helped (My opinion here folks).  I'm as guilty as anyone and like to watch them.  But it has driven the sport into a direction that eventually will implode the sport.  It has taken hunting into a direction of trophy hunting.  There are less and less hunters each year in the US but more and more trophy hunters.  This has driven industry into a point that anyone owning land has went from a "ask for permission to hunt" to a "pay for permission to hunt".  I know I'm going to get some flack here because Steve isn't a trophy hunter but he is in the industry.  His show is to make money!  Its all about money.  The day of the guy going out and harvesting a small buck or doe deer to feed his family has turned into everyone out looking for the 175 plus inch mule deer, the 360 inch elk, or the 150 plus inch whitetail.  I know these statements are general and don't apply to all but hunting TV has slowly taken the hunter in this direction.  I'm as guilty as the next guy.  Go out hunting and look at the average age of your fellow hunters.  In general, that age is getting older and older each year.  Very few youth are getting into the sport because of the skyrocketing costs and absolutely no access issues.   The day of the high school kid hitting their favorite pheasant spot on the way home from school are over.  That is why so many people are jumping ship and choosing to leave the Washington zoo behind and start to spend their money in Montana, Wyoming, Idaho, and other states.  These states are about 20-30 years behind Washington but will catch up in time.  Hunting will eventually become a rich mans sport.  As it is now, there is no way you can justify the cost of the meat with the cost of your hunting experience.  So the day for the normal guy going out hunting to feed his family is all but over.  Price per pound, wild game is the most expensive meat on the planet in most cases.  I could go on and on but will stop here.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 21, 2019, 11:50:18 AM
I respectfully disagree with several points. I don't agree that everyone's out for a 170 buck or a 300+ bull. But the problem there is that one day, you're (not you) a jerk for being a trophy hunter (even though you eat your harvest), and the next, you're a jerk if you take a younger animal. A guy can't win either way. That's a problem within the hunting community. We don't support each other regardless of legal harvests, whatever they may be.

Television hunting shows have been around for decades. That's not what's hurting hunting. Boisterous anti-hunter wackos, public perception of firearms, lack of opportunity, an increase of private posted or fee-required lands, diseased animals, and predator spirals add to deterring factors to new potential hunters.

The price per pound of hunted meat has never been a factor. We've been spending hundreds of dollars a lb to hunt forever. Although it is about putting meat in the freezer, it's certainly not a comparison between wild game and farm food.

Responsible hunting shows like Rinella's, which emphasize ethical hunting and harvesting practices, are good for the image of hunting - there aren't enough of shows like that. They not only interest the younger hunting-interested youth but shed a positive light on what we do. It's too bad that more shows aren't like that. As far as him broadcasting our favorite haunts, putting a favorable light on hunting means he travels to different places to hunt. This time it was the Blues. Next time, it'll be Indiana or Uzbekistan. Wherever he goes, he represents us all well.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: 2MANY on November 21, 2019, 11:59:28 AM
"Hunting will eventually become a rich mans sport."

Just like Europe.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: dvolmer on November 21, 2019, 04:46:11 PM
I respectfully disagree with several points. I don't agree that everyone's out for a 170 buck or a 300+ bull. But the problem there is that one day, you're (not you) a jerk for being a trophy hunter (even though you eat your harvest), and the next, you're a jerk if you take a younger animal. A guy can't win either way. That's a problem within the hunting community. We don't support each other regardless of legal harvests, whatever they may be.

Television hunting shows have been around for decades. That's not what's hurting hunting. Boisterous anti-hunter wackos, public perception of firearms, lack of opportunity, an increase of private posted or fee-required lands, diseased animals, and predator spirals add to deterring factors to new potential hunters.

The price per pound of hunted meat has never been a factor. We've been spending hundreds of dollars a lb to hunt forever. Although it is about putting meat in the freezer, it's certainly not a comparison between wild game and farm food.

A lot of good points here.

Responsible hunting shows like Rinella's, which emphasize ethical hunting and harvesting practices, are good for the image of hunting - there aren't enough of shows like that. They not only interest the younger hunting-interested youth but shed a positive light on what we do. It's too bad that more shows aren't like that. As far as him broadcasting our favorite haunts, putting a favorable light on hunting means he travels to different places to hunt. This time it was the Blues. Next time, it'll be Indiana or Uzbekistan. Wherever he goes, he represents us all well.

A lot of good points here!
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: idaho guy on November 21, 2019, 05:47:19 PM
Overall, out door (hunting TV) television shows have hurt the sport more than helped (My opinion here folks).  I'm as guilty as anyone and like to watch them.  But it has driven the sport into a direction that eventually will implode the sport.  It has taken hunting into a direction of trophy hunting.  There are less and less hunters each year in the US but more and more trophy hunters.  This has driven industry into a point that anyone owning land has went from a "ask for permission to hunt" to a "pay for permission to hunt".  I know I'm going to get some flack here because Steve isn't a trophy hunter but he is in the industry.  His show is to make money!  Its all about money.  The day of the guy going out and harvesting a small buck or doe deer to feed his family has turned into everyone out looking for the 175 plus inch mule deer, the 360 inch elk, or the 150 plus inch whitetail.  I know these statements are general and don't apply to all but hunting TV has slowly taken the hunter in this direction.  I'm as guilty as the next guy.  Go out hunting and look at the average age of your fellow hunters.  In general, that age is getting older and older each year.  Very few youth are getting into the sport because of the skyrocketing costs and absolutely no access issues.   The day of the high school kid hitting their favorite pheasant spot on the way home from school are over.  That is why so many people are jumping ship and choosing to leave the Washington zoo behind and start to spend their money in Montana, Wyoming, Idaho, and other states.  These states are about 20-30 years behind Washington but will catch up in time.  Hunting will eventually become a rich mans sport.  As it is now, there is no way you can justify the cost of the meat with the cost of your hunting experience.  So the day for the normal guy going out hunting to feed his family is all but over.  Price per pound, wild game is the most expensive meat on the planet in most cases.  I could go on and on but will stop here.

I agree with a lot of what you said. I think the social media flat bill army has had the most negative impact and don't like hunting being about antler inches over pounds of meat. I don't actually really like Steve Rinella but I do see where he is representing hunting in a good light to a lot of people that wouldn't otherwise get it and mostly hear just from the other side(anti hunters). Some of his shows have been really good and some not so much. I still think you can hunt on a budget but I guess you might need to live in the right state. My sons and my deer in Idaho cost very little and we spent 1500 bucks in montana on tags but came home with 2 big deer and 2 nice bull elk. Probably 2-3 dollars per pound? spent a couple hundred on gas and stayed with family. I don't know but I am optimistic about the future of hunting in Idaho and other western states. All my sons friends hunt a lot as do most of the kids I know his age. There is still a lot of family hunt camps the tradition lives on around here. I have been closed out of private property due to outfitters leasing stuff up so that is discouraging. I admit I watch hunting shows quite a bit and most of them are not very good and usually some guy shooting deer over a food plot or a feeder but its just supposed to be entertainment.  I have no dog in this fight but I don't know how Rinella can really ruin what are already absolutely terrible odds. I totally get the other side and would hate for my worst spot to be broadcast on the intendent. Its been an interesting discussion anyways
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: davk on November 22, 2019, 05:44:39 PM
In general, that age is getting older and older each year.  Very few youth are getting into the sport because of the skyrocketing costs and absolutely no access issues.   The day of the high school kid hitting their favorite pheasant spot on the way home from school are over.  That is why so many people are jumping ship and choosing to leave the Washington zoo behind and start to spend their money in Montana, Wyoming, Idaho, and other states.  These states are about 20-30 years behind Washington but will catch up in time.  Hunting will eventually become a rich mans sport.  As it is now, there is no way you can justify the cost of the meat with the cost of your hunting experience.  So the day for the normal guy going out hunting to feed his family is all but over.  Price per pound, wild game is the most expensive meat on the planet in most cases.  I could go on and on but will stop here.

I have never gotten the point that its so expensive.  You can CHOOSE to make it incredibly expensive.  Its not.  Deer, elk, bear and cougar tag is $100 ... take a 300$ gun/scope combo with $20 box of 3006.  I also dont get the access thing.  Maybe its the areas I have been that I dont see it(besides everything being gated).  Its more about education on where you can go.  I usually cant decide where to go because I have too many spots, and have maps with hundreds of spots to check out probably all within 2hrs.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: idaho guy on November 23, 2019, 01:48:50 PM
In general, that age is getting older and older each year.  Very few youth are getting into the sport because of the skyrocketing costs and absolutely no access issues.   The day of the high school kid hitting their favorite pheasant spot on the way home from school are over.  That is why so many people are jumping ship and choosing to leave the Washington zoo behind and start to spend their money in Montana, Wyoming, Idaho, and other states.  These states are about 20-30 years behind Washington but will catch up in time.  Hunting will eventually become a rich mans sport.  As it is now, there is no way you can justify the cost of the meat with the cost of your hunting experience.  So the day for the normal guy going out hunting to feed his family is all but over.  Price per pound, wild game is the most expensive meat on the planet in most cases.  I could go on and on but will stop here.

I have never gotten the point that its so expensive.  You can CHOOSE to make it incredibly expensive.  Its not.  Deer, elk, bear and cougar tag is $100 ... take a 300$ gun/scope combo with $20 box of 3006.  I also dont get the access thing.  Maybe its the areas I have been that I dont see it(besides everything being gated).  Its more about education on where you can go.  I usually cant decide where to go because I have too many spots, and have maps with hundreds of spots to check out probably all within 2hrs.
 

 :yeah: itís a choice for sure. I get lion,bear,turkey,deer,elk and wolf tag for 150 bucks roughly including the extra permit for hound hunting etc. add in my trapping license and I am in the woods 11 months a year for under 200 bucks. I rarely have to go over 2-3 hours to have all the hunting and trapping I can handle.  Compare that to golf I could spend that much in one day. A few years ago I went to Africa I donít even want to talk about what that cost  :chuckle: it was a once in a lifetime experience that I was glad I did at least once. It was more like a vacation where I hunted and definitely not like our yearly hunting trips. Anyways itís a choice you can spend from hundreds of dollars each year to literally millions
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: JWEBB on November 24, 2019, 02:58:56 AM
Iím so sick and tired of all the folks backing this guy like they are his best friend. My family has hunted that unit since the 1930s and every local in that area is not ok with his broadcasting of the unit. Even talked to 2 local game wardens this season and they also agree that his big mouth was completely unacceptable. And yeah go ahead and keep saying that itís a quality hunt unit and everyone knows that. Keep up the bashing I can handle it.  :chuckle: Mtn view is way more than a quality hunt. Many generations have relied on this area to provide food for their family and still do. Way more to it than a trophy elk hunt! Maybe the draw wonít go up in apps dramatically but itís still completely unacceptable as a hunter to blast all these details out to everyone. The more talk, the more idiots in the unit. I always drive to all the campsites after the season and check for trash left behind. Iíve never had to pick up more trash as I had this year at campsites. Disgusting! Long story short, this isnít just a quality elk hunt. Itís a way of life for many and the original hunters of this area are completely disgusted with Steve

You should put to practice your profile signature, those 3 words ring true in a situation like this.


And you should practice not being a suck up  :chuckle:  Iíll prolly get tossed for saying that  :chuckle: And I could care less. So tired of the peanut gallery chiming In on an area they have never touched and couldnít handle for 2 seconds
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: JWEBB on November 24, 2019, 03:46:23 AM
Iím so sick and tired of all the folks backing this guy like they are his best friend. My family has hunted that unit since the 1930s and every local in that area is not ok with his broadcasting of the unit. Even talked to 2 local game wardens this season and they also agree that his big mouth was completely unacceptable. And yeah go ahead and keep saying that itís a quality hunt unit and everyone knows that. Keep up the bashing I can handle it.  :chuckle: Mtn view is way more than a quality hunt. Many generations have relied on this area to provide food for their family and still do. Way more to it than a trophy elk hunt! Maybe the draw wonít go up in apps dramatically but itís still completely unacceptable as a hunter to blast all these details out to everyone. The more talk, the more idiots in the unit. I always drive to all the campsites after the season and check for trash left behind. Iíve never had to pick up more trash as I had this year at campsites. Disgusting! Long story short, this isnít just a quality elk hunt. Itís a way of life for many and the original hunters of this area are completely disgusted with Steve

Rinella didn't ruin a way of life  if anything he is about preserving a way of life.  His show is one of the few that has respect for the tradition and providing meat for the family the majority of hunting shows focus on the exact opposite they focus on the trophy aspect which only creates more individuals wanting to shift from opportunistic hunters providing meat to trophy hunters focused on a measuring tape.  Nothing torques me off more then watching some jackwang shoot a bull or buck on tv then watch as the unskinned ungutted rigamortis carcass is not being taken care of first instead they whip out a tape and calculator that is what has ruined your way of life.  When shows started getting more popular and a greater population shifted to trophy hunting thats when landowners who use to let you hunt for a simple knock on the door and a box of apples saw an opportunity to make money and close lands and start leasing and charging for access I have only ever heard of a trophy fee being charged to hunt not a way to provide meat for my family fee.  I totally agree with your frustrations my family hunts with the mindset of opportunist and meat and if we happen to get lucky on a nice animal once in awhile its a bonus.  To many people not enough open land to many predators to much technology the list goes on as to what has ruined a way of life and it certainly isn't one tv show it's many plus.  As said i totally agree and cant stand that hunting as a lifestyle has changed and i'm not sure its for the better and have to deal with it.  It is not a cost effective way to provide meat for the family anymore it would be cheaper to by beef but it is about the experience and it is great on the table for sure. Bottom line to many people and to much greed and not enough connection with the heritage land and wildlife in general is what has ruined hunting as a way of life and has turned it into a flat bill competition if SCI scores were measured in pounds of meat rather inches of horns the value of the trophy wouldn't exist for the competition to one up the next guy and not nearly as many people would be in your spot.  On a side note nobody is going to flock to the blues or anywhere else from out of state and i think some posts on this sites and facebook and other social media have created just as much or even more competition in some of our best spots in the state.

You have no clue my friend
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: fishngamereaper on November 24, 2019, 06:32:09 AM
Iím so sick and tired of all the folks backing this guy like they are his best friend. My family has hunted that unit since the 1930s and every local in that area is not ok with his broadcasting of the unit. Even talked to 2 local game wardens this season and they also agree that his big mouth was completely unacceptable. And yeah go ahead and keep saying that itís a quality hunt unit and everyone knows that. Keep up the bashing I can handle it.  :chuckle: Mtn view is way more than a quality hunt. Many generations have relied on this area to provide food for their family and still do. Way more to it than a trophy elk hunt! Maybe the draw wonít go up in apps dramatically but itís still completely unacceptable as a hunter to blast all these details out to everyone. The more talk, the more idiots in the unit. I always drive to all the campsites after the season and check for trash left behind. Iíve never had to pick up more trash as I had this year at campsites. Disgusting! Long story short, this isnít just a quality elk hunt. Itís a way of life for many and the original hunters of this area are completely disgusted with Steve

You should put to practice your profile signature, those 3 words ring true in a situation like this.


And you should practice not being a suck up  :chuckle:  Iíll prolly get tossed for saying that  :chuckle: And I could care less. So tired of the peanut gallery chiming In on an area they have never touched and couldnít handle for 2 seconds

Wow...your perception of your fellow sportsman is impressive...way to take the high road..
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: nwwanderer on November 24, 2019, 07:54:54 AM
Have ties to that country since 1880s, the transplanted elk have always caused a stir, this too shall pass.  Be careful out there
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: Kazekurt on November 24, 2019, 09:07:11 AM
Personally, I like that Steve hunts places that I can hunt as it makes the show realistic and less canned.  I hunt lots of public land in multiple states and the reality is that if an area is good, people will eventually catch on.  I have family and friends that own land in the desert unit, have seen lots of nice bucks out there, but have never drawn the tag myself...but I donít complain when people post pics of the deer they get out there, even though I know it just encourages more people to apply for the tag.  Honestly, I enjoy seeing the pics.  I learned long ago to find happiness in other peopleís hunting success.  I have been blessed to take a number of trophy animals in my life, and itís an amazing feeling that Iíll never forget; and honestly, I hope every hunter that puts in the work and hunts ethically Gets to feel that feeling at least once in their lifetime.  The reality is that public land is public land and popularity of areas will come and go.  I have lots of spots that have increased in popularity the last 5 years.  With modern GPS technology, aps like ON X, etc, people are becoming more aware of public land and since private land is becoming more difficult to access without money changing hands you will continue to see added pressure on public land going forward; but remember that  itís just other people like you who are trying to enjoy the outdoors, put food on their table, and pass on the hunting tradition to their family.  With that in mind, if someone else shoots a buck or bull Iíve been watching, or draws a tag I covet good for them!  Since I tend to gravitate to hard to reach places that require lots of effort and am willing to hunt with more than just a rifle I mitigate some of the traffic but i still run into other hunters from time to time and I just donít let I bother me.  I certainly donít own the land, or the animals...  Anyway, donít be too hard on Steve.  He puts out a great show and represents hunting in a positive way.  Iíve watched the show for years and even though I recognize some of the places he hunts, have never hunted any of them as a result of watching the show.  Both Steve and Randy Newberg have been reasonably specific on MT hunts on a number of occasions so it isnít unprecedented.  Most of what Steve does is back country anyway so most people couldnít pull it off even if they wanted too. 
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: JWEBB on November 24, 2019, 12:08:28 PM
Iím so sick and tired of all the folks backing this guy like they are his best friend. My family has hunted that unit since the 1930s and every local in that area is not ok with his broadcasting of the unit. Even talked to 2 local game wardens this season and they also agree that his big mouth was completely unacceptable. And yeah go ahead and keep saying that itís a quality hunt unit and everyone knows that. Keep up the bashing I can handle it.  :chuckle: Mtn view is way more than a quality hunt. Many generations have relied on this area to provide food for their family and still do. Way more to it than a trophy elk hunt! Maybe the draw wonít go up in apps dramatically but itís still completely unacceptable as a hunter to blast all these details out to everyone. The more talk, the more idiots in the unit. I always drive to all the campsites after the season and check for trash left behind. Iíve never had to pick up more trash as I had this year at campsites. Disgusting! Long story short, this isnít just a quality elk hunt. Itís a way of life for many and the original hunters of this area are completely disgusted with Steve

You should put to practice your profile signature, those 3 words ring true in a situation like this.


And you should practice not being a suck up  :chuckle:  Iíll prolly get tossed for saying that  :chuckle: And I could care less. So tired of the peanut gallery chiming In on an area they have never touched and couldnít handle for 2 seconds

Wow...your perception of your fellow sportsman is impressive...way to take the high road..


Thanks  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: Dan-o on November 24, 2019, 01:22:44 PM
Interesting thread.   I thought it would die out.

I was waffling, but after this much attention I am definitely putting myself, my kids and my hunting partners in for this hunt.

If it generates this much heat, it must be a GREAT unit.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: KFhunter on November 24, 2019, 01:28:29 PM
 :stirthepot:


I do appreciate your irony and since of humor though Dan-o     

(let this thread die, or keep bumping it and creating more attention to that hunt)
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: idaho guy on November 24, 2019, 04:53:01 PM
Personally, I like that Steve hunts places that I can hunt as it makes the show realistic and less canned.  I hunt lots of public land in multiple states and the reality is that if an area is good, people will eventually catch on.  I have family and friends that own land in the desert unit, have seen lots of nice bucks out there, but have never drawn the tag myself...but I donít complain when people post pics of the deer they get out there, even though I know it just encourages more people to apply for the tag.  Honestly, I enjoy seeing the pics.  I learned long ago to find happiness in other peopleís hunting success.  I have been blessed to take a number of trophy animals in my life, and itís an amazing feeling that Iíll never forget; and honestly, I hope every hunter that puts in the work and hunts ethically Gets to feel that feeling at least once in their lifetime.  The reality is that public land is public land and popularity of areas will come and go.  I have lots of spots that have increased in popularity the last 5 years.  With modern GPS technology, aps like ON X, etc, people are becoming more aware of public land and since private land is becoming more difficult to access without money changing hands you will continue to see added pressure on public land going forward; but remember that  itís just other people like you who are trying to enjoy the outdoors, put food on their table, and pass on the hunting tradition to their family.  With that in mind, if someone else shoots a buck or bull Iíve been watching, or draws a tag I covet good for them!  Since I tend to gravitate to hard to reach places that require lots of effort and am willing to hunt with more than just a rifle I mitigate some of the traffic but i still run into other hunters from time to time and I just donít let I bother me.  I certainly donít own the land, or the animals...  Anyway, donít be too hard on Steve.  He puts out a great show and represents hunting in a positive way.  Iíve watched the show for years and even though I recognize some of the places he hunts, have never hunted any of them as a result of watching the show.  Both Steve and Randy Newberg have been reasonably specific on MT hunts on a number of occasions so it isnít unprecedented.  Most of what Steve does is back country anyway so most people couldnít pull it off even if they wanted too.
 

OnX and the gps has ruined more of ďmyĒ spots than anything else. I love onx and absolutely hate it at the same time  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: idaho guy on November 24, 2019, 04:56:14 PM
Interesting thread.   I thought it would die out.

I was waffling, but after this much attention I am definitely putting myself, my kids and my hunting partners in for this hunt.

If it generates this much heat, it must be a GREAT unit.
 

How could 100,000 applicants be wrong?  :chuckle: I say go for it!
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: Dan-o on November 24, 2019, 05:58:55 PM
Interesting thread.   I thought it would die out.

I was waffling, but after this much attention I am definitely putting myself, my kids and my hunting partners in for this hunt.

If it generates this much heat, it must be a GREAT unit.
 

How could 100,000 applicants be wrong?  :chuckle: I say go for it!

Make that 100,008.       :tup: :tup:
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: M_ray on November 24, 2019, 06:12:56 PM

OnX and the gps has ruined more of ďmyĒ spots than anything else. I love onx and absolutely hate it at the same time  :chuckle:


 :yeah: This

Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: millerwheeler on November 24, 2019, 06:16:15 PM
9 pages still can't believe this Is still a thing . WHO CARES
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: baker5150 on November 24, 2019, 06:59:08 PM
Iím so sick and tired of all the folks backing this guy like they are his best friend. My family has hunted that unit since the 1930s and every local in that area is not ok with his broadcasting of the unit. Even talked to 2 local game wardens this season and they also agree that his big mouth was completely unacceptable. And yeah go ahead and keep saying that itís a quality hunt unit and everyone knows that. Keep up the bashing I can handle it.  :chuckle: Mtn view is way more than a quality hunt. Many generations have relied on this area to provide food for their family and still do. Way more to it than a trophy elk hunt! Maybe the draw wonít go up in apps dramatically but itís still completely unacceptable as a hunter to blast all these details out to everyone. The more talk, the more idiots in the unit. I always drive to all the campsites after the season and check for trash left behind. Iíve never had to pick up more trash as I had this year at campsites. Disgusting! Long story short, this isnít just a quality elk hunt. Itís a way of life for many and the original hunters of this area are completely disgusted with Steve

You should put to practice your profile signature, those 3 words ring true in a situation like this.


And you should practice not being a suck up  :chuckle:  Iíll prolly get tossed for saying that  :chuckle: And I could care less. So tired of the peanut gallery chiming In on an area they have never touched and couldnít handle for 2 seconds


Hahaha. 

Just keep whining on the internet.  Thatíll teach em.   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: JWEBB on November 24, 2019, 10:26:25 PM
Iím so sick and tired of all the folks backing this guy like they are his best friend. My family has hunted that unit since the 1930s and every local in that area is not ok with his broadcasting of the unit. Even talked to 2 local game wardens this season and they also agree that his big mouth was completely unacceptable. And yeah go ahead and keep saying that itís a quality hunt unit and everyone knows that. Keep up the bashing I can handle it.  :chuckle: Mtn view is way more than a quality hunt. Many generations have relied on this area to provide food for their family and still do. Way more to it than a trophy elk hunt! Maybe the draw wonít go up in apps dramatically but itís still completely unacceptable as a hunter to blast all these details out to everyone. The more talk, the more idiots in the unit. I always drive to all the campsites after the season and check for trash left behind. Iíve never had to pick up more trash as I had this year at campsites. Disgusting! Long story short, this isnít just a quality elk hunt. Itís a way of life for many and the original hunters of this area are completely disgusted with Steve

You should put to practice your profile signature, those 3 words ring true in a situation like this.


And you should practice not being a suck up  :chuckle:  Iíll prolly get tossed for saying that  :chuckle: And I could care less. So tired of the peanut gallery chiming In on an area they have never touched and couldnít handle for 2 seconds


Hahaha. 

Just keep whining on the internet.  Thatíll teach em.   :rolleyes:

 :tup: And you just keep sitting on your couch with your potato chips and bud watching Meateater  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: JakeLand on November 25, 2019, 08:14:51 AM
Naaaa !! Coors light and Tims cascade salt and vinegar!!!
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: baker5150 on November 25, 2019, 08:20:12 AM
Iím so sick and tired of all the folks backing this guy like they are his best friend. My family has hunted that unit since the 1930s and every local in that area is not ok with his broadcasting of the unit. Even talked to 2 local game wardens this season and they also agree that his big mouth was completely unacceptable. And yeah go ahead and keep saying that itís a quality hunt unit and everyone knows that. Keep up the bashing I can handle it.  :chuckle: Mtn view is way more than a quality hunt. Many generations have relied on this area to provide food for their family and still do. Way more to it than a trophy elk hunt! Maybe the draw wonít go up in apps dramatically but itís still completely unacceptable as a hunter to blast all these details out to everyone. The more talk, the more idiots in the unit. I always drive to all the campsites after the season and check for trash left behind. Iíve never had to pick up more trash as I had this year at campsites. Disgusting! Long story short, this isnít just a quality elk hunt. Itís a way of life for many and the original hunters of this area are completely disgusted with Steve

You should put to practice your profile signature, those 3 words ring true in a situation like this.


And you should practice not being a suck up  :chuckle:  Iíll prolly get tossed for saying that  :chuckle: And I could care less. So tired of the peanut gallery chiming In on an area they have never touched and couldnít handle for 2 seconds


Hahaha. 

Just keep whining on the internet.  Thatíll teach em.   :rolleyes:

 :tup: And you just keep sitting on your couch with your potato chips and bud watching Meateater  :chuckle:

Nah,  I'll go hunting instead,  He didn't ruin "My Spot" so I should be good. 

Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: Odell on November 25, 2019, 09:43:50 AM
Interesting thread.   I thought it would die out.

I was waffling, but after this much attention I am definitely putting myself, my kids and my hunting partners in for this hunt.

If it generates this much heat, it must be a GREAT unit.

It is a great unit. No denying that
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: 2MANY on November 25, 2019, 09:49:34 AM
Word on the street is Meateater is a closet Vegan.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: Meathunter06 on November 25, 2019, 09:54:28 AM
9 pages still can't believe this Is still a thing . WHO CARES
for sure
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: boneaddict on November 25, 2019, 10:16:09 AM
I know, I thought about locking it so it will quit showing up in my feed. 
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 25, 2019, 11:30:31 AM
Word on the street is Meateater is a closet Vegan.

 :chuckle: I think he's pre-vegan.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: millerwheeler on November 25, 2019, 03:28:41 PM
I know, I thought about locking it so it will quit showing up in my feed.
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Please do 
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: kirkl on November 25, 2019, 03:45:17 PM
Pianoman, your not going to tell a mod what you told me?   :rolleyes:


Quote from: kirkl on October 24, 2019, 04:51:27 PM

    You guys should keep arguing about this that way it stays at the top and maybe other good stuff thats worth reading gets pushed down.   :rolleyes: friggin pissing match after pissing match on this site anymore.


You know you have the ability to view only the threads that you like, right? It's not the site. It's your choices. There are plenty of hunting threads that are pissing match-free for you.  :tup:
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: JWEBB on November 25, 2019, 09:22:17 PM
Iím so sick and tired of all the folks backing this guy like they are his best friend. My family has hunted that unit since the 1930s and every local in that area is not ok with his broadcasting of the unit. Even talked to 2 local game wardens this season and they also agree that his big mouth was completely unacceptable. And yeah go ahead and keep saying that itís a quality hunt unit and everyone knows that. Keep up the bashing I can handle it.  :chuckle: Mtn view is way more than a quality hunt. Many generations have relied on this area to provide food for their family and still do. Way more to it than a trophy elk hunt! Maybe the draw wonít go up in apps dramatically but itís still completely unacceptable as a hunter to blast all these details out to everyone. The more talk, the more idiots in the unit. I always drive to all the campsites after the season and check for trash left behind. Iíve never had to pick up more trash as I had this year at campsites. Disgusting! Long story short, this isnít just a quality elk hunt. Itís a way of life for many and the original hunters of this area are completely disgusted with Steve

You should put to practice your profile signature, those 3 words ring true in a situation like this.


And you should practice not being a suck up  :chuckle:  Iíll prolly get tossed for saying that  :chuckle: And I could care less. So tired of the peanut gallery chiming In on an area they have never touched and couldnít handle for 2 seconds


Hahaha. 

Just keep whining on the internet.  Thatíll teach em.   :rolleyes:

 :tup: And you just keep sitting on your couch with your potato chips and bud watching Meateater  :chuckle:

Nah,  I'll go hunting instead,  He didn't ruin "My Spot" so I should be good.

Good on you :tup:
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: Dan-o on November 25, 2019, 10:46:47 PM
So how steep is this country?
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: KFhunter on November 25, 2019, 11:42:11 PM
So how steep is this country?

It didn't look all that steep in Rinella's hunt I seen on TV..looked doable for an average to slightly pudgy office worker  :dunno:   



might as well put in for it  :IBCOOL:

Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: huntnnw on November 26, 2019, 12:09:42 AM
video and pics do not portray how steep this unit is, just the hunt part is hard enough let alone the thought of packing a bull out. Its something that lingers in your head when chasing a bugle and you have to analyze the situation if its possible to get it out. I have cut chases short in that unit due to the terrain.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: Jpmiller on November 26, 2019, 06:43:26 AM
video and pics do not portray how steep this unit is, just the hunt part is hard enough let alone the thought of packing a bull out. Its something that lingers in your head when chasing a bugle and you have to analyze the situation if its possible to get it out. I have cut chases short in that unit due to the terrain.

Maybe I'm doing it wrong but that describes pretty much everywhere I've ever hinted elk
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: KFhunter on November 26, 2019, 01:08:19 PM
video and pics do not portray how steep this unit is, just the hunt part is hard enough let alone the thought of packing a bull out. Its something that lingers in your head when chasing a bugle and you have to analyze the situation if its possible to get it out. I have cut chases short in that unit due to the terrain.

Maybe I'm doing it wrong but that describes pretty much everywhere I've ever hinted elk
LOL. True dat!

Hunt the panhandle or Selkirk and its just as steep in many places but add 300% more brush!

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Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: Hot Lunch on November 26, 2019, 07:11:01 PM
Sounds like about any unit in Idaho. I killed a bull on a draw permit last year in the west blues and was thought it was just like Idaho. The guys not getting out of there trucks must have thought it was to steep.
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: Dan-o on November 26, 2019, 07:30:05 PM
So how steep is this country?

It didn't look all that steep in Rinella's hunt I seen on TV..looked doable for an average to slightly pudgy office worker  :dunno:   



might as well put in for it  :IBCOOL:

I'm in!!!
Title: Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on November 26, 2019, 09:01:25 PM
It's all lies. No elk in the blues. This subject has been beat dead on this forum so many times. Cant believe anybody would believe this Steve guy really did this in the blues.......................
Carry on.