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Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
« Reply #60 on: November 08, 2019, 10:13:35 AM »
Him protecting us from the anti's is a joke.

The anti's are a bunch of fern feeling wimps.

They will never shut us down.

Human overpopulation will.

Marrow eater should train his mouth.

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Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
« Reply #61 on: November 08, 2019, 10:21:01 AM »
Him protecting us from the anti's is a joke.

The anti's are a bunch of fern feeling wimps.

They will never shut us down.


Human overpopulation will.

Marrow eater should train his mouth.

Are you kidding with this? The antis have shut down hunting in areas all over the country. There are constant and ongoing attacks on hunting. We've seen it in our own state with hounds and baiting. We need ambassadors who can reach out to the majority of voters and show them that what we do is right and that it's true conservation. You're shooting at the wrong side on this one.
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Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
« Reply #62 on: November 08, 2019, 10:21:38 AM »
20,000 members on a hunting site talking about draw odds, siting all the quality tags looking for success pics, sharing information and details of the hunt.  PM's sent to those who drew the tags and even going out to help..  And Rinella is the problem, if there is one???  If you have an issue with Rinella I hope you don't post on this site.

To be clear, I love this site and don't think it's a problem...  It's helped me immensely fill tags due to what I've learned, so I guess I'm hurting the community as well.

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Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
« Reply #63 on: November 08, 2019, 10:31:10 AM »
I think he should NOT promote specific areas.

Ever.

Period.

If you disagree I could care less.

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Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
« Reply #64 on: November 08, 2019, 10:34:50 AM »
Him protecting us from the anti's is a joke.

This may be true, but for the vast majority of non-hunters Rinella is a better advocate for the hunting community over some of the more traditional hunting celebrities. For a person with no background in the wildlife conservation or hunting, Rinella's approach and philosophy is easier and more agreeable then that of a high fence safari hunter.

The anti's are a bunch of fern feeling wimps.

This may also be true, but those fern feeling wimps have been instrumental in having hound hunting, bear baiting and body-gripping traps banned along with the wolf situation shoved down our throats.

They will never shut us down.

See above, they have slowly chipped away at the hunting community's opportunities and certain user groups. I don't think they are going to let up anytime soon with the current WA government being controlled by the Democrats.

Human overpopulation will.

Couldn't agree more along with loss of habitat.

Marrow eater should train his mouth.

Your opinion, I do feel that he is a great advocate for the hunting community and does well to educate people (especially non-hunters) about the hunting community and conservation. Episode 59 on his podcast was done at the Starbucks headquarters in Seattle, he talked with several audience members who identified as non-hunters and even anti's. He made some great points and did so in a respectful manner, if even 3 non-hunters walked away from that event with a better appreciation for hunters and conservation that's a win in my book.

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Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
« Reply #65 on: November 08, 2019, 10:36:44 AM »
I think he should NOT promote specific areas.

Ever.

Period.

If you disagree I could care less.

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Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
« Reply #66 on: November 08, 2019, 11:40:18 AM »
I think he should NOT promote specific areas.

Ever.

Period.

If you disagree I could care less.

Here is how right you are...HE thinks he should NOT promote specific areas. But you still have people saying its no problem. Funny thing, I haven't seen those people posting specific instructions on how to access and hunt their favorite areas.

Maybe we should start a thread for everyone to post up good hunting spots and how to get there. I could use some new west side duck spots
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Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
« Reply #67 on: November 08, 2019, 12:23:26 PM »
cruising through the elk threads in less than 5 mins found ridge names, GMU's, Roads, how to access on a couple of the quality tags.  Same thing in deer threads.  I respect your opinion on what you think is right or wrong.  Just pointing out Rinella is not the first and only guy to do it.  Tons of first time posters come here as soon as they get a tag and plenty people helping out and waiting on pics and story.  What's the difference??

Does that not bring attention to quality tags and impact draw odds??  I mean, put in for those tags where guys are posting monsters on here..  Let everyone know you have it and plenty of help will come your way.  Why be on here if you don't like it?

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Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
« Reply #68 on: November 08, 2019, 12:39:04 PM »
There's a big difference between helping someone in private and putting it on the interwebz so everyone can see it forever.  I've helped people in private.  I've also got specific help from others in private.  None of it was broadcast for the world to see and never will be.

I like his shows, but I suspect Rinella knew better and regretted it later.

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Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
« Reply #69 on: November 08, 2019, 12:47:31 PM »
WSU..  I agree with your sentiment.  Point being there are plenty on here who have shared details, tags, units and even roads, ridges, elevations and specific details.  Those guys don't catch the same flack.  I'd agree we all have our opinions on what we share privately vs online.  Just saying Rinella seems to getting a lot more flack than others..  the biggest issue being because he said he was in the Blues now everyone knows.  Same can be said about all the special tags mentioned and discussed here..  Get a special tag, post your results and now everyone knows what animals are there..  There is no outrage about those tags now being broadcast.  Personally I don't share details publicly and have benefited via PM and a lot from you specifically.  I just don't think Rinella is now a villan for sharing what he did..  Would he do it different, sure.  I just don't think it was as outrageous as some have pointed out.  But I respect those who disagree.. Just my take.

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Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
« Reply #70 on: November 08, 2019, 12:49:21 PM »
No one would have cared if Rhinella had come on here to share details, or better yet PM's. But his platform is much bigger than hunt wa. I get he is an ambassador to non hunters, but he needs to do his part to be respectful and remain in the good graces of his established hunting audience as well. Sharing the hunt is one thing, unfortunately that goes with the territory. Stop there. He apologized we will see if he sticks by it.

  Its the name of the game for these Public Land Filmers. I have largely stopped watching them. The negative impact  is eroding the once supportive attitude I had. I could sympathize with the BRO's, Rhinella etc...... But then they expanded into more and more areas, more states, more details. Instead of 90 minute video every couple years, that I looked forward to, it became a TV show, then a streaming channel with many hours of content. They quit jobs and careers to do podcasts, and other media outlets and chase the dream. I cant help but applaud that. But at the same time I no longer sympathized. They became less like me and just mainstream. I appreciate the message and positive perception these groups do a good job of portraying and hope it pays off long term. At the same time they need to realize the price being paid is steep by those who have enjoyed the lifestyle long before the LOTF (yes I have a hat :chuckle:) or meateater podcast was ever thought of.

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Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
« Reply #71 on: November 08, 2019, 01:12:48 PM »
WSU..  I agree with your sentiment.  Point being there are plenty on here who have shared details, tags, units and even roads, ridges, elevations and specific details.  Those guys don't catch the same flack.  I'd agree we all have our opinions on what we share privately vs online.  Just saying Rinella seems to getting a lot more flack than others..  the biggest issue being because he said he was in the Blues now everyone knows.  Same can be said about all the special tags mentioned and discussed here..  Get a special tag, post your results and now everyone knows what animals are there..  There is no outrage about those tags now being broadcast.  Personally I don't share details publicly and have benefited via PM and a lot from you specifically.  I just don't think Rinella is now a villan for sharing what he did..  Would he do it different, sure.  I just don't think it was as outrageous as some have pointed out.  But I respect those who disagree.. Just my take.

Guys on here don't catch as much flack because they aren't doing it for a living and podcasting to a million people and don't have a TV show on Netflix. Don't you think that is a significant difference?

Beyond that, its really common on here for people to ask others to not name the unit/area/road when those posts pop up. I've had a pm on a forum asking me to crop a picture I posted just because it had a recognizable geographic feature in the back and I hadn't posted a single detail about where it was. For sure there is info on here that you could find. The question is do we want more specific info on the internet or less?
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Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
« Reply #72 on: November 08, 2019, 01:55:37 PM »
Hey why doesn't everyone start buying some chunks of land and quit bitching about someone "sharing secret hot spots"!

Every time I get on here all I see is people whining like a bunch of sandy vaginas about someone saying something about a spot, or how there are no places to hunt, it's the tree huggers, its the tribes, its the wolves, it's the prius's,it's Steve Rinella, its something else.  My God! 

Attention World: Washington State has Elk,Deer, Bear, Cougar, Wolves, Ducks, Fox, Otter, Pheasants, Quail, Chukar, Bobcats, Moose, Sheep, Goats, Squirrels, Chipmunks, Grouse, Mink, and other furry/feathered animals that can be hunted around the year.  But, please don't go here, here, here or here. Thank you!

The day you put that rifle/bow/pistol/smoke pole/spear in your F'n hand, you accepted the fact that you would be sharing a large area with other hunters. People must have much more time on their hands than I do to take the time to point out specific people, track tribal kills, ridge ares with most foot traffic. 

I use this site to see other's reports of their hunt, successful or not! As well as, classifieds, (what are others selling/what can I sell to other enthusiasts).

Why can't we stick to the basics, "Here's an animal I killed". "Here's a hunt experience I had". "Here's my kid finally getting into hunting". 

I hate jumping on to this site to see people bitching about "someone who opened their mouth and now the state has no hunting opportunities".


If I'm not selling, I should be hunting, If I'm not hunting, I should quit!

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Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
« Reply #73 on: November 08, 2019, 07:31:30 PM »
Hey why doesn't everyone start buying some chunks of land and quit bitching about someone "sharing secret hot spots"!

Every time I get on here all I see is people whining like a bunch of sandy vaginas about someone saying something about a spot, or how there are no places to hunt, it's the tree huggers, its the tribes, its the wolves, it's the prius's,it's Steve Rinella, its something else.  My God! 

Attention World: Washington State has Elk,Deer, Bear, Cougar, Wolves, Ducks, Fox, Otter, Pheasants, Quail, Chukar, Bobcats, Moose, Sheep, Goats, Squirrels, Chipmunks, Grouse, Mink, and other furry/feathered animals that can be hunted around the year.  But, please don't go here, here, here or here. Thank you!

The day you put that rifle/bow/pistol/smoke pole/spear in your F'n hand, you accepted the fact that you would be sharing a large area with other hunters. People must have much more time on their hands than I do to take the time to point out specific people, track tribal kills, ridge ares with most foot traffic. 

I use this site to see other's reports of their hunt, successful or not! As well as, classifieds, (what are others selling/what can I sell to other enthusiasts).

Why can't we stick to the basics, "Here's an animal I killed". "Here's a hunt experience I had". "Here's my kid finally getting into hunting". 

I hate jumping on to this site to see people bitching about "someone who opened their mouth and now the state has no hunting opportunities".



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Re: Steve rinellas blue mountains bull hunt
« Reply #74 on: November 08, 2019, 07:32:37 PM »
Hey why doesn't everyone start buying some chunks of land and quit bitching about someone "sharing secret hot spots"!

Every time I get on here all I see is people whining like a bunch of sandy vaginas about someone saying something about a spot, or how there are no places to hunt, it's the tree huggers, its the tribes, its the wolves, it's the prius's,it's Steve Rinella, its something else.  My God! 

Attention World: Washington State has Elk,Deer, Bear, Cougar, Wolves, Ducks, Fox, Otter, Pheasants, Quail, Chukar, Bobcats, Moose, Sheep, Goats, Squirrels, Chipmunks, Grouse, Mink, and other furry/feathered animals that can be hunted around the year.  But, please don't go here, here, here or here. Thank you!

The day you put that rifle/bow/pistol/smoke pole/spear in your F'n hand, you accepted the fact that you would be sharing a large area with other hunters. People must have much more time on their hands than I do to take the time to point out specific people, track tribal kills, ridge ares with most foot traffic. 

I use this site to see other's reports of their hunt, successful or not! As well as, classifieds, (what are others selling/what can I sell to other enthusiasts).

Why can't we stick to the basics, "Here's an animal I killed". "Here's a hunt experience I had". "Here's my kid finally getting into hunting". 

I hate jumping on to this site to see people bitching about "someone who opened their mouth and now the state has no hunting opportunities".

Solid whine about people whining.
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