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Re: Age limits on handgun sales violate Second Amendment
« Reply #30 on: February 04, 2025, 09:22:13 AM »
" Who here thinks the writers of the constitution could have possibly foreseen the innovations in weaponry that would occur over the next 230+ years?" quote chukardogs


I do! :tup:  Based on what "they've" seen in innovations of weaponry in their time.  They knew times would continue to change, its one of the reasons it took 3 days of debates to form the "wordings" of the 2A.

Every "weapon" WE the PEOPLE have or do own, at one time was a military weapon! There is a point of time in our history, the PEOPLE were better armed then our military was!

That's why you don't find type of action, caliber, looks, etc in the 2A wording.  "A Republic madam, if you can keep it" Benjamin Franklin

Democracy's always lead to Tyrants!

FYI, gun control (loss of Freedoms)started in 1934.

Never a D!! :tup:
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Re: Age limits on handgun sales violate Second Amendment
« Reply #31 on: February 04, 2025, 10:00:47 AM »
Yep at the time the constitution was written citizens could have all weapons available at the time. And when a citizen miss used the weapon or committed other crimes they were punished up to and including death.

Today government is taking the weapons from law abiding citizens and are refusing to punish the criminals. The problems today are not the constitution but instead the leadership of government and the laws they are creating and the laws they are choosing not to enforce.

Now the SCOTUS has said we cannot have nuclear weapons which I feel most would agree with and if you don’t maybe you should rethink your stance. However with the exception of missiles, fighter jets, nukes and other advanced weapons the citizens have had and used the weapons of our day and they have only been abused by a small few in the grand scheme of things.

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Re: Age limits on handgun sales violate Second Amendment
« Reply #32 on: February 04, 2025, 01:58:52 PM »
It slays me that alcohol related deaths, particularly vehicle related ones, get little attention. There should be a rule made that every time a firearm related death is reported they also report the number of vehicle or alcohol and drug related deaths up to that point.
I heard a report that (if I remember the date correctly) January 28 was the first firearm death in Seattle. There were certainly more alcohol/drug related or vehicle related ones before that date!
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Re: Age limits on handgun sales violate Second Amendment
« Reply #33 on: February 04, 2025, 02:29:51 PM »
It slays me that alcohol related deaths, particularly vehicle related ones, get little attention. There should be a rule made that every time a firearm related death is reported they also report the number of vehicle or alcohol and drug related deaths up to that point.
I heard a report that (if I remember the date correctly) January 28 was the first firearm death in Seattle. There were certainly more alcohol/drug related or vehicle related ones before that date!
Follow the money and political fads.

On average illegal aliens kill 24 American citizens per day. Pretty evenly split between violence and drunk driving.

If it was about safety they would be crafting bills to deport all illegals.. They're not.
If I need a permit and education to buy a firearm than women should need a permit and education  before getting an abortion.

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Re: Age limits on handgun sales violate Second Amendment
« Reply #34 on: February 04, 2025, 03:45:55 PM »
It slays me that alcohol related deaths, particularly vehicle related ones, get little attention. There should be a rule made that every time a firearm related death is reported they also report the number of vehicle or alcohol and drug related deaths up to that point.
I heard a report that (if I remember the date correctly) January 28 was the first firearm death in Seattle. There were certainly more alcohol/drug related or vehicle related ones before that date!
Follow the money and political fads.

On average illegal aliens kill 24 American citizens per day. Pretty evenly split between violence and drunk driving.

If it was about safety they would be crafting bills to deport all illegals.. They're not.

About 200/day die of drug overdoses. But they use the argument that they are hurting themselves but then refuse to add the caveat that 50% of gun deaths are suicides in the numbers they site.

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Re: Age limits on handgun sales violate Second Amendment
« Reply #35 on: February 04, 2025, 07:28:46 PM »
It slays me that alcohol related deaths, particularly vehicle related ones, get little attention. There should be a rule made that every time a firearm related death is reported they also report the number of vehicle or alcohol and drug related deaths up to that point.
I heard a report that (if I remember the date correctly) January 28 was the first firearm death in Seattle. There were certainly more alcohol/drug related or vehicle related ones before that date!
Follow the money and political fads.

On average illegal aliens kill 24 American citizens per day. Pretty evenly split between violence and drunk driving.

If it was about safety they would be crafting bills to deport all illegals.. They're not.

About 200/day die of drug overdoses. But they use the argument that they are hurting themselves but then refuse to add the caveat that 50% of gun deaths are suicides in the numbers they site.

Good point!
If I need a permit and education to buy a firearm than women should need a permit and education  before getting an abortion.

Voting for Democrats is prima facie evidence you are a skirt wearing, low T, beta male. Do better.

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Re: Age limits on handgun sales violate Second Amendment
« Reply #36 on: February 04, 2025, 09:24:26 PM »
It slays me that alcohol related deaths, particularly vehicle related ones, get little attention. There should be a rule made that every time a firearm related death is reported they also report the number of vehicle or alcohol and drug related deaths up to that point.
I heard a report that (if I remember the date correctly) January 28 was the first firearm death in Seattle. There were certainly more alcohol/drug related or vehicle related ones before that date!
Follow the money and political fads.

On average illegal aliens kill 24 American citizens per day. Pretty evenly split between violence and drunk driving.

If it was about safety they would be crafting bills to deport all illegals.. They're not.

Please provide your source of the 24 American Citizens per day.  I tried finding it but can't seem to.

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Re: Age limits on handgun sales violate Second Amendment
« Reply #37 on: February 04, 2025, 11:43:50 PM »
It slays me that alcohol related deaths, particularly vehicle related ones, get little attention. There should be a rule made that every time a firearm related death is reported they also report the number of vehicle or alcohol and drug related deaths up to that point.
I heard a report that (if I remember the date correctly) January 28 was the first firearm death in Seattle. There were certainly more alcohol/drug related or vehicle related ones before that date!
Follow the money and political fads.

On average illegal aliens kill 24 American citizens per day. Pretty evenly split between violence and drunk driving.

If it was about safety they would be crafting bills to deport all illegals.. They're not.

Please provide your source of the 24 American Citizens per day.  I tried finding it but can't seem to.

GAO report in 2017 for murders. (12  per day average.)
Mendoza who's son was killed by a drunk illegal (2011?) did the study of car fatalities and as I recall it was slightly higher than 12 a day.

Of coarse the lying scum in the media claim otherwise.. as per usual.
If I need a permit and education to buy a firearm than women should need a permit and education  before getting an abortion.

Voting for Democrats is prima facie evidence you are a skirt wearing, low T, beta male. Do better.

 


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