Experts Meet To Discuss Wolves Effect On Hunting

[KNOPHISH]

Here's how it will go. The bio's & experts make the decision to have a substantial quota & seasons. Leaf lickers whine about them being endangered. Maybe goes to a public vote like hound hunting/bear baiting & years of court appeals.  Meanwhile deer, elk, & moose populations take a dive resulting in less revenue from tags & licenses in turn meaning jacked up prices for the rest. The end of hunting as we know it.

[huntnphool]

Here's how it will go. The bio's & experts make the decision to have a substantial quota & seasons. Leaf lickers whine about them being endangered. Maybe goes to a public vote like hound hunting/bear baiting & years of court appeals.  Meanwhile deer, elk, & moose populations take a dive resulting in less revenue from tags & licenses in turn meaning jacked up prices for the rest. The end of hunting as we know it.

Its written into the proposal that "hunting seasons may necessarily have to be adjusted"

[Special T]

Might still be some good bird hunting as well.  Or do wolves eat grouse and pheasant too?

Grouse huntign with dogs will be much more dangerouse since there have been several bad encounters in ID. I think in addition to the bird shot buckshot will  come with me.  SOME kinds of small game hunting MAY get better if they reduce the coyote population significantly, but there are always  Hawks, Magpies, Ravens/crows and other avian predators may take up the slack. 

[huntnphool]

Just got this email;


WDFW WILDLIFE PROGRAM

Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife
600 Capitol Way North, Olympia, WA 98501-1091
wildthing@dfw.wa.gov

Dear Hunters:   

Over the past couple of years, the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW) has received many questions about how wolves will affect big game hunting in our state.  Often the questions we hear reference our neighboring states of Idaho and Montana, which were managing wolves at least a decade before they arrived in Washington.  WDFW is offering hunters a chance to find out first hand from Washington, Idaho, and Montana managers about what they are experiencing.   You can also ask your own questions during the live webcast, which will take place at http://wdfw.wa.gov/ on July 18 from 6:30 to 9:30 p.m.  For more information about the webcast, see http://wdfw.wa.gov/news/jul1113a/ .


Sincerely,

Nate Pamplin, Wildlife Program Assistant Director Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife

[huntnphool]

I guess one question I would like answered is "They didn't listen to the "experts" from Montana and Idaho during the proposal meetings, so why are they trying to snow us with their "concern" now?"

This is nothing more than a PR move aimed at appeasing sportsman that are understandably pissed off.

[woodswalker]

Where are they gonna find some "experts"?  From what I've seen of the management of wolves in the other states, I see a serious shortage of "experts"

Here is the logic of one of Washington's appointed experts when it comes to wolves:

 "In order to remain successful, hunters will have to adapt, which in turn will make them better hunters".

Jay Kehne.  August 2011

http://www.conservationnw.org/news/pressroom/press-clips/theres-more-to-the-wolf-story

Yup, likely learn how to snoop and poop and use a shovel.  Esp with suppressors now legal to both own AND use.

[crschralping]

Got the same email, thought the same thing 

[woodswalker]

Got the same email, thought the same thing 

[asl20bball]

I guess one question I would like answered is "They didn't listen to the "experts" from Montana and Idaho during the proposal meetings, so why are they trying to snow us with their "concern" now?"
This is nothing more than a PR move aimed at appeasing sportsman that are understandably pissed off.

Since they said they will be discussing info from other states in this meeting I doubt they will present any of the facts that make WDFW look bad.

[huntnphool]

I guess one question I would like answered is "They didn't listen to the "experts" from Montana and Idaho during the proposal meetings, so why are they trying to snow us with their "concern" now?"
This is nothing more than a PR move aimed at appeasing sportsman that are understandably pissed off.

Since they said they will be discussing info from other states in this meeting I doubt they will present any of the facts that make WDFW look bad.

Why did they not discuss these facts before they pushed the current plan?

[CementFinisher]

sure wish this was a meeting we cold attend in person and be able to comment or ask questions to answeres they give to other questions. hopefully we are able to clean house sooner than later, idaho did and montana has mostly

[huntnphool]

sure wish this was a meeting we cold attend in person and be able to comment or ask questions to answeres they give to other questions. hopefully were able to clean house sooner than later, idaho did and montana has mostly

Listen and take notes for email questions.

[CementFinisher]

yea they will pick and chose through the questions and comments to keep it going in a direction they want. Also e mail doesnt convey emotion like face to face would

[Humptulips]

Ever think maybe this is equaly aimed at wolf lovers? Maybe try and show them the need to actually manage wolf numbers. Kind of soften them up for delieting.

Hey, I can hope.

[CedarPants]

yea they will pick and chose through the questions and comments to keep it going in a direction they want

That is exactly what happened at the last meeting I attended when Ware was speaking