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palouse late buck
« on: October 20, 2012, 04:20:17 PM »
I just recieved this letter in the mail.

Dear Washington Hunter,

Congratulations. You have been identified as one of the lucky deer hunters to draw a permit for the Special Palouse Deer Hunt #1100-late whitetail buck hunt.

As part of this hunt, if you are successful, WDFW requires you to extract and submit tooth samples to the department. One of the reasons this hunt was created was the apparent decrease of available legal bucks (3 point or greater), therefore WDFW wants to collect the tooth so we can determine the age of the bucks being harvested. This information will allow us to better manage whitetail bucks in this area. Pleas be sure to fill in all parts on the back of the tooth envelope that are applicable.

oth white-tailed and mule deer deposit layers of cementum in the roots of their teeth each year and by sectioning the teeth and counting the annual rings of cementum we can accurately determine the age of the deer. With antler point information submitted, the relationship between age and antler point size will be analyzed.

So, if you harvest a deer this season, please use the enclosed postage paid tooth envelope to send in your deer tooth samples. Refer to the back of the tooth envelope for instructions on how to remove the middle two front teeth. Make sure you remove the entire tooth, both crwon and root, being careful not to break the teeth off at the gum line. Wrap the teeth in a small amount of tissue paper and place them directly into the envelope. Do not wrap the teeth in plastic or foil, or they will rot and be unusable. Please note: you can bring the head to the Spokane regional office and someone will help you extract the tooth.

Also, record the number of antler points (both left side and right side) on the back of the tooth envelope. All antler points must be at least one (1) inch long to be included in the count. Antler points include eye guards if at least one (1) inch long. Refer to the Big Game Hunting Seasons and Rules Pamphlet for further explanation.

Remember, to qualify for the Incentive Permit Drawing, you must still submit your hunter reports within ten days of a kill or if unsuccessful, by January 10. Simply answer the questions asked on the toll-free automated telephone reporting line at 1-877-945-3492 or on the Internet at http://fishhunt.dfw.wa.gov.

Thanks for your help and good luck this season!

Howard Ferguson
District Wildlife Biologist

Has anyone else recieved this letter? Is this something common of special permits and did the people drawn for this hunt last year recieve the same letter? I dont believe the part that explains why this hunt was created, the logic doesnt make sense. There are plenty of bucks down there, in fact, i think the population is going strong.

On the envelope they sent it doesnt even give and option for whitetail under what species, just mule deer, blacktail deer and elk. that was real smart! what happens if i break the teeth or just plain dont do it? can they fine me or anything like that?

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Re: palouse late buck
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2012, 05:56:41 PM »
Both times I've drawn this hunt I've gotten the same thing. Shot a buck during general season both times so i haven't sent a tooth in yet. Yeah, the reasoning behind the need for the teeth seems weak. The area I hunt in 139 has a very healthy population. If it was weak why have this hunt available and put extra pressure?

No idea what happens if you don't send it in, doubt much.
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Re: palouse late buck
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2012, 06:01:18 PM »
Well I drew this permit last year and I never recieved a letter like that. The only thing that was sent to me was like a post card detailing the permit and thats it.  :dunno:

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Re: palouse late buck
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2012, 07:26:59 AM »
BugleBuster I drew that permit and I also recieved that same thing in the mail. Not sure what happens if you don't return the teeth. A couple years ago after I drew the desert hunt tag after the season was over I got a call from the fish & game department asking if I mailed it there harvest card and what I thought of the hunt. The way they make it sound this permit might be a crummy premit to have drawn. Put people I know from that area say this is a great permit. So time will tell.

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Re: palouse late buck
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2012, 07:41:19 AM »
My wife received the same letter for the Palouse hunt.

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Re: palouse late buck
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2012, 07:53:59 AM »
Its pretty difficult to pull that tooth. I did it a few years ago and broke the first one. just cut deep into the gum and you'll get it out. I frankly dont need the reason. If it helps them in their studies Im ok with it. It only takes a few minutes. No biggy. Ive given brain sample, wing sampless and tooth samples and Im happy to help.

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Re: palouse late buck
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2012, 07:58:07 AM »
Good point Gutpile, I'd be happy to submit a tooth, but I was NOT SELECTED for that tag. :bash:

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Re: palouse late buck
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2012, 08:35:38 AM »
I'm not disargeeing with sending the tooth, just kind of confused. I thought the herd in this area was doing very well. I'm all for anything that will help the herds in the state.

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Re: palouse late buck
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2012, 09:37:30 AM »
my gf was drawn for the palouse lat hunt and recieved the same letter and envelope. she killed a buck yesterday and i will be sending in a tooth. the teeth are very easy to remove. just cut the gums like they say and the teeth pull right out.  :dunno:
i am thinking in teh letter that the reason for the permit was to reduce pressure from a general late hunt ant limit the pressure. although i cant remember if there used to be a general late hunt there.
ill start a thread with my gfs buck soon.

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Re: palouse late buck
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2012, 07:39:03 AM »
yes there was a general late see season in 127 thats when we used to get our best bucks it sucked when the went to the permit

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Re: palouse late buck
« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2012, 08:14:38 AM »
Well I drew this permit last year and I never recieved a letter like that. The only thing that was sent to me was like a post card detailing the permit and thats it.  :dunno:

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Re: palouse late buck
« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2012, 08:41:24 AM »
I actually like that it is permitted only late season there. Makes for some great hunting all season and some great deer. It would be a slaughter if they opened it to general late season. Odds aren't really all that bad of drawing that tag. Plus it makes for better late season archery hunting there... :chuckle:

We use the permit as a reason to be even more selective on the deer that we kill. Gives more time to hunt oldder mature bucks. Instead of settling for a 2 year old to fill a tag.

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Re: palouse late buck
« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2012, 08:57:46 AM »
I was in a group drawing for that permitt last year and was selected. My Dad and I recieved the letter wanting a tooth, but the other people did not. Im not sure how they select who has to submitt a tooth or not, but it seems like it would benefitial to have all succesful hunters submit teeth.

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palouse late buck
« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2012, 09:08:18 AM »
My dad had the tag last year and didn't get the letter.

Maybe there is a shortage of bucks on public land but the private land we saw and hunted had plenty of deer and some dandy bucks. Everyone on here told me not to be picky when looking for a deer for my dad but from what I saw there are some great bucks there. We are planning on getting my sister on a good one this year.

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Re: palouse late buck
« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2012, 09:16:20 AM »
If you have decent private land then by all means be picky! Its a great opportunity at a mature buck with relatively good draw odds.

 


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