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Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« on: December 03, 2016, 09:42:45 PM »

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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2016, 09:54:28 PM »
I believe so
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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2016, 10:08:23 PM »
Looks like a 2x6  :dunno:

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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2016, 10:11:53 PM »
Looks like it!

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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2016, 10:14:29 PM »
I thought so too. He might end up with an arrow in him tomorrow morning.

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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2016, 10:16:57 PM »
Should be

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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2016, 10:17:47 PM »
Yep

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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2016, 10:24:47 PM »
Looks like a fork on the top of that left side though.

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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2016, 10:31:43 PM »
Looks like a fork on the top of that left side though.

They have other pictures and that side has just the eyeguard and no other points.

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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2016, 10:34:57 PM »
Looks like a fork on the top of that left side though.

They have other pictures and that side has just the eyeguard and no other points.

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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2016, 11:00:32 PM »
Actually it is legal as long as the point originates less than 4 inches above the base of the antler, as per the hunting pamphlet.

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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2016, 11:11:21 PM »
Actually it is legal as long as the point originates less than 4 inches above the base of the antler, as per the hunting pamphlet.

I would love to see the commotion that bull would cause if someone killed it in a spike only unit then preceded to parade it around in the back of their truck, especially if there were no branched antler bull permits issued in the unit.

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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2016, 11:12:26 PM »
"Spike Bull Antler Restrictions: Bull elk taken in spike-only game management units (GMUs) must have at least one antler with no branches originating more than 4 inches above where the antler attaches to the skull."

Looking at the photo, the elk does not appear to have a branch originating more than four inches from the skull, particularly on its right side antler. That would make it a legal spike.
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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2016, 11:13:54 PM »
Spike only, looks good. True spike, no good.
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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2016, 11:23:10 PM »
"Spike Bull Antler Restrictions: Bull elk taken in spike-only game management units (GMUs) must have at least one antler with no branches originating more than 4 inches above where the antler attaches to the skull."

Looking at the photo, the elk does not appear to have a branch originating more than four inches from the skull, particularly on its right side antler. That would make it a legal spike.

That 4 inch measurement regulation has always seemed so iffy. I would let it walk, how accurate could a person be when trying to measure something like that, on the fly at different angles and distances. Nock that bull down and wind up being 1/2 an inch off would be a good possibility  and a bad deal. Regardless, that bull is not even close to the spirit of what a spike only hunt consists of.

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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2016, 11:28:41 PM »
You're grasping at straws lefthook. 100% legal bull. Pass if you want, no way I would though
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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2016, 11:29:38 PM »
I wouldn't even think twice about dumping that Elk.

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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2016, 11:31:44 PM »
That brow tine branches off at about 2 inches from base.  That's a shooter.  Whats really cool is instead of the 180lb spike your gonna get your gonna get a +300lb mature bull for meat.  I don't really care that we have to hunt spikes but it does bug me that we get the shaft on meat quantity.  I weighed out a rear quarter from a spike and a three point and in what I am guessing as one year older their was a 20lb difference between rear quarters.  A mature 4 1/2 year old or older bull will have twice as much meat as a spike.

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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2016, 11:34:32 PM »
My only concern would be whether that brow tine originates more than 4" form where the antler attaches to the skull.

I'm just not sure.......   If I knew it was 3.9999999999999999" or less, then I would dump it for the shear fun of taking a bull like that on a spike hunt.
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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2016, 11:41:20 PM »
Most of you guys should know what 4" looks like

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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #20 on: December 03, 2016, 11:42:43 PM »
Most of you guys should know what 4" looks like
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That first antler fork is 6 inches from the skull. Not legal.
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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2016, 12:24:10 AM »
Looks legal to me
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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2016, 04:01:58 AM »
Start peeling the garlic.
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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #23 on: December 04, 2016, 05:30:02 AM »
The rule was apparently written to allow a single browtine .  This ones tine starts or "originates"  but a couple inches from the base 
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Re: Is this bull legal in a spike only unit?
« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2016, 05:34:54 AM »
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