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Offline D-Rock425

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Re: Fusions
« Reply #15 on: July 03, 2012, 09:38:05 AM »
My sako didn't shoot them well either.

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Re: Fusions
« Reply #16 on: July 03, 2012, 11:37:34 AM »
My sako didn't shoot them well either.
How many different weights did you try?

I'm surprised by a couple of you guys, thinking that you can go to a ammo section in a store, pick up one of the "many" boxes of shells surrounding you, shoot it and decide that the entire brand/model of round is crap for your gun. Well I've got news for you, every brand in the store is going to have models that shoot like crap out of your gun, it's your job to weed them out and find the model that shoots well.

 Same goes for hand loading, just because you load it by hand does not necessarily mean it's going to perform the way you want it too, you need to experiment with different powder loads and bullet weights. To think you are going to walk in there and pick out the perfect match for your gun out of all the boxes sitting there is a bit optimistic don't you think?
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Re: Fusions
« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2012, 11:43:30 AM »
My sako didn't shoot them well either.
How many different weights did you try?

I'm surprised by a couple of you guys, thinking that you can go to a ammo section in a store, pick up one of the "many" boxes of shells surrounding you, shoot it and decide that the entire brand/model of round is crap for your gun. Well I've got news for you, every brand in the store is going to have models that shoot like crap out of your gun, it's your job to weed them out and find the model that shoots well.

 Same goes for hand loading, just because you load it by hand does not necessarily mean it's going to perform the way you want it too, you need to experiment with different powder loads and bullet weights. To think you are going to walk in there and pick out the perfect match for your gun out of all the boxes sitting there is a bit optimistic don't you think?

 :yeah: :yeah: :yeah:    :tup: :tup: :tup: :tup: :tup:

I had a buddy did just that... bought a rifle, bought 2 boxes of Remington core-loks... damn thing shot patterns....  "had to be the gun" since his other gun shot those same rounds great....    :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:   400.00 later in "accurizing the gun", he finally listened to me because the damn core-loks still would not shoot in that gun....  bought some Federal Premium ammo... first 5 rounds were under a quarter at 100 yards....   :bash: :bash: :bash:   I should have convinced him the gun was bad and offered him 200.00 for it..   :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Re: Fusions
« Reply #18 on: July 03, 2012, 02:00:21 PM »
Well i think for my rifle 7mm-08 fusion only makes two options 120 or 140.  I wanted to stay with the 140's tried didn't like the results.   

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Re: Fusions
« Reply #19 on: July 03, 2012, 04:15:54 PM »
I'll just stick to the Accubonds at $29/box instead of paying $20-$22/box for who knows how many boxes to find a *cheaper* option.

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Re: Fusions
« Reply #20 on: July 03, 2012, 04:23:06 PM »
I'll just stick to the Accubonds at $29/box instead of paying $20-$22/box for who knows how many boxes to find a *cheaper* option.
After all, how many rounds do you shoot out of it every year? One box will likely last you 5+ years if you store your rifle in a safe. Start a savings account cookie jar in your bedroom right now for your pocket change, I bet you can save the $2.00/year difference by the time it comes to purchase the next box. ;)
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Re: Fusions
« Reply #21 on: July 03, 2012, 04:41:52 PM »
I'll just stick to the Accubonds at $29/box instead of paying $20-$22/box for who knows how many boxes to find a *cheaper* option.
After all, how many rounds do you shoot out of it every year? One box will likely last you 5+ years if you store your rifle in a safe. Start a savings account cookie jar in your bedroom right now for your pocket change, I bet you can save the $2.00/year difference by the time it comes to purchase the next box. ;)

About 4 boxes a year.  3 people shooting it.

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Re: Fusions
« Reply #22 on: July 03, 2012, 04:56:17 PM »
I'll just stick to the Accubonds at $29/box instead of paying $20-$22/box for who knows how many boxes to find a *cheaper* option.
After all, how many rounds do you shoot out of it every year? One box will likely last you 5+ years if you store your rifle in a safe. Start a savings account cookie jar in your bedroom right now for your pocket change, I bet you can save the $2.00/year difference by the time it comes to purchase the next box. ;)

About 4 boxes a year.  3 people shooting it.
Might be time to take up reloading. :twocents:
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Re: Fusions
« Reply #23 on: July 03, 2012, 05:07:41 PM »
I'll just stick to the Accubonds at $29/box instead of paying $20-$22/box for who knows how many boxes to find a *cheaper* option.
After all, how many rounds do you shoot out of it every year? One box will likely last you 5+ years if you store your rifle in a safe. Start a savings account cookie jar in your bedroom right now for your pocket change, I bet you can save the $2.00/year difference by the time it comes to purchase the next box. ;)

About 4 boxes a year.  3 people shooting it.
Might be time to take up reloading. :twocents:

It's been long past that time.  The wife won't authorize the initial outlay, even when shown the cost difference.  She also doesn't want it going on in the house since it's "dangerous".  You have to understand, I'm dealing with a woman who is farther left than anyone you can think of.  She hasn't said it but I'm sure her stance is that, when I can't afford to buy ammo anymore, I should probably just sell the guns and quit hunting too.

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Re: Fusions
« Reply #24 on: July 03, 2012, 05:48:46 PM »
I ran into the same thing you did a couple of years ago. Always shot 180 grain coreloks out of my .300win mag and they did great, then one year I started shooting all over the target. So I bought a box of partitions, and fusion, no good shot all over the board. So I went into Kesselrings gun shop and ask them what they thought. The guy sold me a copper cleaner and told me to use it like the directions said and then head back to the range. I figured that it wouldn't really help because I always kept my rifle clean with "shooters choice" a pretty good all in one cleaner. Anyway I figured I better listen to the expert and I tried it out. I was absolutely amazed at how many green patches I got, took me a week of letting it soak all night and cleaning it the next morning before I started getting white patches. I went back to the range and it made all the difference. The Coreloks shot ok, partitions did real poor, and the fusions did better than the coreloks. I've been using the fusions on mule deer and Federal trophy tip for elk. Long story short, make sure your rifle is clean.

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Re: Fusions
« Reply #25 on: July 03, 2012, 06:10:22 PM »
went from core-loks to fusion 180's a few years ago & what a difference. played awhile but the old rem 742 loved em. couldent hold up & ended up kicking the bolt, but they were nice while it lasted. looking for a new driver in 06 ?

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Re: Fusions
« Reply #26 on: July 03, 2012, 06:31:42 PM »
HUH... WHAT ? What Cal. you shooting ? I rarely buy factory ammo BUT if I had to buy factory ammo it would be Fusions .. I shot them out of my .270 and my sons 25-06 and they shoot extremely tight groups ..One thing I have to say is this  :dunno: :chuckle: if your trying to group bullets to brag to your friends about I recommend using a bench and sand bags ...Trying to hold tight groups from shooting sticks just is crazy and not counting the fact at 150 yrds ...All I know is my kid has used Fusions on 3 different deer and they layed them out .... :twocents:

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Re: Fusions
« Reply #27 on: July 03, 2012, 06:36:14 PM »
I ran into the same thing you did a couple of years ago. Always shot 180 grain coreloks out of my .300win mag and they did great, then one year I started shooting all over the target. So I bought a box of partitions, and fusion, no good shot all over the board. So I went into Kesselrings gun shop and ask them what they thought. The guy sold me a copper cleaner and told me to use it like the directions said and then head back to the range. I figured that it wouldn't really help because I always kept my rifle clean with "shooters choice" a pretty good all in one cleaner. Anyway I figured I better listen to the expert and I tried it out. I was absolutely amazed at how many green patches I got, took me a week of letting it soak all night and cleaning it the next morning before I started getting white patches. I went back to the range and it made all the difference. The Coreloks shot ok, partitions did real poor, and the fusions did better than the coreloks. I've been using the fusions on mule deer and Federal trophy tip for elk. Long story short, make sure your rifle is clean.
:tup: :tup: that copper cleaner is the sheet ..Huh ? used it for many years and use nothen but !! :twocents:

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Re: Fusions
« Reply #28 on: July 03, 2012, 07:25:08 PM »
My pard bought a few boxes to form in his 06'ai. That gun ripped a .2" group with them enough times to make me think they can't be all bad.

One would be hard pressed to top a .2 group with factory ammo. :tup:


A .2" group seems exceptional to me.  escpecially from a 30 caliber where every shot should make a .3" hole in a paper target.   :dunno:

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Re: Fusions
« Reply #29 on: July 03, 2012, 07:41:10 PM »
My pard bought a few boxes to form in his 06'ai. That gun ripped a .2" group with them enough times to make me think they can't be all bad.

One would be hard pressed to top a .2 group with factory ammo. :tup:


A .2" group seems exceptional to me.  escpecially from a 30 caliber where every shot should make a .3" hole in a paper target.   :dunno:


A .2" .308" group measures .508"......you are thinking in terms of gross.....groups are measured in nets.

One of those 150 fusions killed a bull at 350yds quite nicely too.

 


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