I would do Northside 1st season rifle bull if I had 4 points. I've done the second season hunt either sex and shot a raggy 5 point on the second day. Finally hit into the elk on the 4th day and my buddy killed a 5. My dad's knees were giving him hell, so he couldn't get after them like he wanted to, but we still got into elk. Have seen good bulls scouting and bowhunting in there and have had friends kill a couple of toads. I just checked ODFW points summary and 4 points is 100% draw on that hunt.