banded waterfowl gear

[ellensburgpo]

Just to be clear, I did not say we were not affiliated with DDW...I said it's not the same owners.  We are affiliated in that Chad (Host of DDW is involved with our company and we sponsor DDW). 

Also, I just got on my computer and can now see the commercial you are talking about listed above...We did not do that commercial.  Chad did that commercial several years ago for Banded Gear.  Banded Gear is his t-shirt/cap company and the new Banded Waterfowl company has nothing to do with Banded Gear.  I know that is as clear as mud and I apologize.  Simply put Banded Gear, has nothing to do with Banded...and that commercial above has nothing to do with Banded.

I've been given the opportunity (and it is greatly appreciated) to sponsor this site.  When that is done I can explain more and answer any more questions you might have.  I'm just super sensitive as I said before to respect the owners of this and all forums and make sure I don't spam.  Thanks and I look forward to becoming more involved in this site.  Looks like ya'll have some great discussions and a very active forum.

I think what you are explaining makes sense. Somewhat convoluted, but makes sense. And thanks for respecting the owners of the site and abiding by their rules.

[bone collector 12]

Just to be clear, I did not say we were not affiliated with DDW...I said it's not the same owners.  We are affiliated in that Chad (Host of DDW is involved with our company and we sponsor DDW). 

Also, I just got on my computer and can now see the commercial you are talking about listed above...We did not do that commercial.  Chad did that commercial several years ago for Banded Gear.  Banded Gear is his t-shirt/cap company and the new Banded Waterfowl company has nothing to do with Banded Gear.  I know that is as clear as mud and I apologize.  Simply put Banded Gear, has nothing to do with Banded...and that commercial above has nothing to do with Banded.

I've been given the opportunity (and it is greatly appreciated) to sponsor this site.  When that is done I can explain more and answer any more questions you might have.  I'm just super sensitive as I said before to respect the owners of this and all forums and make sure I don't spam.  Thanks and I look forward to becoming more involved in this site.  Looks like ya'll have some great discussions and a very active forum.

so there are 2 different banded companys?, i did not start this post to rip on your company, in fact i am counting down the days till i can order of your website because i have my eye on a sweatshirt and those knee boots which look pretty sweet, so i apologize if you took this post the wrong way it was not ment to be a hateful post' , and since your a site sponser are we going to see huntwa member discounts?  

[CCurtis]

I will definitely pass that along.  I know it's a balancing act for them.  They get comments ranging from ones like yours to those at the opposite end of the spectrum.  "show some more behind the scenes stuff, more lifestyle...I've seen a million coyotes get shot."

Again, I will definitely tell them you want more action less fluff.

Thanks!

[h2ofowlr]

I hope their is no ties with Chad Belding.  He is a straight up tool that should not be representing the waterfowl sport.  He is a black eye as far as I am concerned along with his affiliates of Banded Hunts.  They had an article about Belding and his want to get younger people involved in duck hunting.  Total BS ad him and his crew of Banded Hunts leases up all the spots.  Past groups and there kids are left hanging.  The sport won't last if you are stuck to paying a nominal fee to hunt.  I won't support anything Belding or Banded Hunts does! 

[CAMPMEAT]

I hope their is no ties with Chad Belding.  He is a straight up tool that should not be representing the waterfowl sport.  He is a black eye as far as I am concerned along with his affiliates of Banded Hunts.  They had an article about Belding and his want to get younger people involved in duck hunting.  Total BS ad him and his crew of Banded Hunts leases up all the spots.  Past groups and there kids are left hanging.  The sport won't last if you are stuck to paying a nominal fee to hunt.  I won't support anything Belding or Banded Hunts does! 

Me neither. He seems like he is all about himself. His show is a poor representation of hunting. Plays all this music when we want to see hunting advice and ideas. Can't stand him.

[Ned]

I for one find it sad that men of honor such as Christian Curtis and Keith Allen are even now associated with such a azzclown moron as Chad.
Banded Hunts, Banded Gear, Banded Nation = GAY if Chad is involved.
The Chad.

[CCurtis]

Guys,

I hear what y'all are saying and it is duly noted.  However, the way I look at it is Chad no more represents waterfowling than Michael Vick (I use him as an example because I'm as turned off by him as you say you are Chad.) represents the NFL.  Chad simply has a show that is meant for entertainment.  Some folks like the show and some don't.  I get that, completely.  And as I see it, Keith and I are not associated with him, he's now associated with us, so maybe we can bring his reputation up a bit!  Lol!

Now as far as leasing hunting spots, that has been going on for YEARS.  Maybe not right where you are, but where I am, as long as I have been alive.  (40 years).  And I can tell you, it hasn't killed the sport or decreased the numbers of hunters...at all.  It's all I've known and to be honest, I prefer it.  I never have to worry about asking for permission (not that you'd get it in a million years because it's all leased) and I never have to worry about showing up and someone else being there.  The interesting thing, there isn't an outfitter anywhere around.  These are all leased by private individuals.  Topics like this are very emotional because they involve changes to the sport we all love and I appreciate that.  Waterfowling has evolved/changed from day 1 in every aspect except the last 10 seconds before you pull the trigger.  The way the mallards look over the decoys.  That is one thing, one picture that my great-grandpa and I have in common and my great-grandkids and I will have in common and it's why we all go.  My grandpa was my waterfowling idol and he died in 1985.  He will never know what a "Mojo" is and my grandson will think "Mojos" we're made by the Indians.  Again, change.  Sometimes good, sometimes bad but constant.  The one quote I'll never forget from my grandpa was this, "when somebody tries to tell you about the good old days, walk away.  They're full of it.  There wasn't nothin' good about the good old days.". I think he was saying is his country share cropping way, to embrace change.

Sorry for rambling...

[bone collector 12]

It seems like were all taking are hate on chad out on CCurtis. I do not or ever will support chad because his idea of trying to reach out to the younger crowds and my idea( me being a young hunter) couldn't be more opposite,but back to the topic on hand,im not gonna hate a company just because his name is on it,because i know he isnt the one in charge.

[Ned]

Hows the investigation going on Chads baited stock yard hunt in Kansas.
That was pure genious putting that show on the air.
The quest for fame and glory makes men do some CRAZY things 

Also why is the only profile on the Team Banded portion of Bandeds new site..........The Chad???

Seems you guys are pushing him as the face of Banded.


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[ellensburgpo]

If I didn't do business with a company just because I didn't like one guy at that company I probably would have starved to death by now. If i held that same standard to huntingwa i probably couldnt be on here too. But im on here because the majority of members are good guys/gals and only a few are toolsheds. Just my 2cents.

I took a look at the website today and it looks like there are some good products on there.

[CCurtis]

I don't have any idea how that "investigation" is going because the only place I've heard about it is in Internet forums.  Suffice it to say, that if 1/3 of the people that have said they've written letters to the USF&W about this have written letters, there's no way the Feds could turn a blind eye to it.  So if they haven't turned a blind eye to it, I would agree that they are/have at the very least looked into it.  And if that's the case and he did hunt bait as you and many others claim, I'm sure he would be indicted.  Right?  And I know, of he's not, then we'll have to hear on the Internet how "The Chad" as satanistic and evil as he is, got out of it because he had dirt on Holder regarding the Fast and Furious debacle or at least something as interesting as that.

I can assure you that Chad won't be the only one on our site, simply the first.  No company should have one "face" as you put it.  Chad is not the "face" of Banded any more than you're the face of this forum.  You simply are a part of it and participate as does he.  There is an inherent risk/reward scenario when you sponsor a personality as a company.  There are people that hate you're chosen personality and people that like said personality.  As a company, the hope is that the good outweighs the bad.  Polarizing figures are the most interesting because they stir the most debate...if we sponsored some boring rum-dum I highly doubt that you would have spent whatever time it took for you to make that post on a Sunday morning.  There won't be one face for our company, there won't be one person that's a face...the face will be the American waterfowler but we will advertise through the FL.

[CCurtis]

Exactly Ellensburgpo,

Nobody would wear Nike because of Tiger, nobody would watch NFL because of Vick, nobody would watch baseball because of Bonds, heck nobody would go to a movie because of all the weird Hollywood crap.  However I understand that hunting is emotional and a testosterone driven activity.  I'm as bad as anyone!  My deal is, I know that I represent myself as waterfowl hunter!  I don't depend on anyone to "represent" me...and never will.

I would also hope, that if we made a product that was head and shoulders better than anything out there that people would at least check it out regardless of there feelings about Chad.  I would hate to think that someone would handicap themselves because they hate one guy...but maybe.  If that's the case, I don't know if that's a customer you could ever win over anyway.  I am sure that if Nike made a new driver that hit 30yds farther that a golfer would turn his nose at it because of Tiger...again maybe.  Also, I'm not saying we have that product, that will be for everyone else to decide...just posing a hypothetical.

[Ned]

Tiger, Vic and Chad are players in the game.
I dont hate the game.............I hate the player.

Tiger did not start or own Nike.
Vic does not own the NFL
Chad starded/owned Banded...................see the difference.

I like you guys (Christian / Keith) but feel you got in bed with a snake.



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[CCurtis]

I understand you're feelings and respect them....and don't misunderstand me, I'm not trying to change your mind about Chad, quite the contrary.  I think debate is good and healthy.  Just like the "baited" issue you brought up.  That's a talking point that, and it doesn't bother me that you brought it up.  I welcome it.  As I said, if something comes out of the "investigation" that you referred to, then you're right.  If it doesn't, then I guess it's all Internet hubbub that sent a lot of people to Chad's site to check out what all the fuss was about and some of them probably stuck around.

[h2ofowlr]

I won't spend a dime on Banded Waterfowl gear, fowl life guys or Banded Hunts.  Bad idea that they think they represent the new generation of waterfowl hunters.