Looking for a pup. {Growing up now}

[Stilly bay]

good on you for sticking to your guns. lots of people just crack open the little nickel and grab the first one they see without any research whatsoever- thats some high stakes gambling IMO. I know because I have done it.

And I can see why folks end up with back yard breeders ,because a lot of breeders are not customer friendly. I think that many breeders are the cause of backyard breeders.

But you know if I find the pup I want, the color I want , the health certs and other things I listed and it is AKC limited Reg. I am not going to care to much. Because I am tired of being attacked as a lower life form by some of the breeders I have talked too.

what are these breeders doing that is offending you?

even though it can be a real pain in the butt at times, I appreciate a breeder that is selective about who they are selling a puppy to. it shows they give a rip about what they are doing. although I have met a few that are completely over the top.

[ghosthunter]

I tell you what I have talked to about 25 since I started this and about five have been decent folks. I have to say Bob Morris at Cougar Mountain is one the most user friendly I have talked too.

I must be getting my share of over the top. I have no problem with a breeder that wants to protect his blood line. I have said many times I have no intrest in breeding a pup. But the folks who want you to spell out what the dog will be doing every minute of the day, how many folks live in your  house, how many kids, what happen to your last dog, do you own cats, how many cars pass your house each day,how big is your yard, do you rent or own, have you ever put a dog in a open bed pick up?? (No) Why do you want dew claws removed, you have to feed this food, fill out this form and we will decide if you are worthy. 

A friend of mine who retired from Shell wanted a border Collie. The breeder told him to his face he was too old for a Border collie.
He called up a big time Kennel in California jumped on a jet and bought his Border Collie. That dogs lives better than I do. Gets to go every where and has the best of care.

And than they want you to charge you top dollar "(but its not about the money)" oh ya , we will name the dog for you.

Nuts.

[wildweeds]

Have you looked here?     http://www.deeprunretrievers.com/puppies.shtml Appears they test the bajeezus out of them.............................. the guy that owns Concrete Northwest had a Yellow phase male from there,he got it free from  fellow I'm aquainted with.
I thought the "Casey/tutti fruiti litter might interest you.
  Appears they been at it along time at Deep Run.

[ghosthunter]

Have you looked here?     http://www.deeprunretrievers.com/puppies.shtml Appears they test the bajeezus out of them.............................. the guy that owns Concrete Northwest had a Yellow phase male from there,he got it free from  fellow I'm aquainted with.
I thought the "Casey/tutti fruiti litter might interest you.
  Appears they been at it along time at Deep Run.

They look great but I was hoping to find one a little closer drive than VA.

[wildweeds]

Fly em............
Also just wondering since your so close and all......................... Conway Kennels doesn't have anything in the way of direction to steer you more locally ?

Have you looked here?     http://www.deeprunretrievers.com/puppies.shtml Appears they test the bajeezus out of them.............................. the guy that owns Concrete Northwest had a Yellow phase male from there,he got it free from  fellow I'm aquainted with.
I thought the "Casey/tutti fruiti litter might interest you.
  Appears they been at it along time at Deep Run.

They look great but I was hoping to find one a little closer drive than VA.

[ghosthunter]

Fly em............
Also just wondering since your so close and all......................... Conway Kennels doesn't have anything in the way of direction to steer you more locally ?

Have you looked here?     http://www.deeprunretrievers.com/puppies.shtml Appears they test the bajeezus out of them.............................. the guy that owns Concrete Northwest had a Yellow phase male from there,he got it free from  fellow I'm aquainted with.
I thought the "Casey/tutti fruiti litter might interest you.
  Appears they been at it along time at Deep Run.

They look great but I was hoping to find one a little closer drive than VA.

Giving them a call tomorrow, several folks have mentioned them.

[ghosthunter]

Here you go....These folks are in VA. I can lie on everyone of these and they would not know any different. What are they going to do ?Send someone to my house? This is a waste of time. Does nothing but make them feel good about selling a dog.




Name ____________________________________________________________

Address _________________________________________________________

City, State, Zip ___________________________________________________

E-mail ________________________________

Phones: Home ________________ Work __________________

Mobile _________________ Pager ______________________

Number of family members: _________

Ages of children ____________

How many family members are home during the day? _____

If no one, who wiII care for the young pup? ______________________

Where will the dog sleep? ___________________________________________

Do you own or rent? __________

How long at current address? __________

Is your yard fenced? _________

What kind of fence? ____________________

If you are planning an invisible fence, how will you contain the pup until it is old enough to use the invisible fence? ____________________________________________

Explain why you want a dog ___________________________________________

Who will be responsible for training the dog? ________________________

Do you plan to have the dog trained professionally? ___________

Do you plan to have your dog spayed or neutered?

What happened to your last dog? ____________________________

How many other pets do you have now? ____ What kind are they, and how old? ____________________________________

If your puppy swallowed a sock and the veterinarian told you it needed an operation that would cost $1200, what would you do? _____________________________

Who is your current veterinarian, include phone number + area code _____________

Have you used a crate to house train puppies before? ______

Have you trained any dogs to achieve titles? If so, which titles? _________ _______________

What hobbies do you have? _____________________________________

How many hours a week do you plan to spend with your dog? ________

Are you planning to move in the next 5 years? ______

What will you do with your dog when you go on vacation? __________________

Are you prepared to make this commitment for the next 14 years? _________

Do you plan to use for dog for hunting? _______

What kind of hunting do you do? ________________________

How often did you hunt this past season? __________________

Will you run your dog in any Field Trials, Hunt of Field Tests? _______

Who will train your dog for these events? _____________________

Do you plan to send your puppy back for puppy training at Deep Run Farm? _____

Will you want your pup shipped to you? ____

What is the nearest LARGE airport to you? __________________

Will you want to buy a crate to ship your pup, or send one to us for shipping? _____

Are you interested in a special Deep Run litter? If so, which one? __________________

Are you interested in a male _______or female_______ pup?

Please list your color preference, (number 1 most preferred, number 3 least preferred). Black___________Yellow____________Chocolate____________. If you are only interested in one color, simply put number 1 next to that color.




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Please print out and Mail the completed questionnaire to us at:
Deep Run Farm
13727 Blackwells Mill Road
Goldvein, VA 22720

or,
Email it to DeepRunRet@aol.com

or
Fax it to 540-752-4775.

After we receive your Questionnaire, we will contact you to determine the best pup for you. A deposit of $150 is required to hold your pup. We accept checks, Master Card, VISA, and cash. We will try to make the best selection of a pup from our litter for you, based on your responses to this questionnaire. If you have more you would like to tell us about your family, and what you are looking for, do not hesitate to include it with this questionnaire. Your puppy will be selected for you, based on the information we have. Your puppy will be available on or after his 8 week birthday. If you are not pleased with your pup, you may return it to us within one week for a full refund. All transportation costs will be your responsibility.

[ghosthunter]

Just for kicks how many of you would fill  out the above questionare truthfully to get a hunting dog?

[Stilly bay]

Just for kicks how many of you would fill  out the above questionare truthfully to get a hunting dog?

 those questions don't seem that out of line or unreasonable. more like par for the course and what I have come to expect from legit breeders.

[ghosthunter]

Theres lots of legit breeders not using these. They serve no purpose because there is no way to confirm the information. its fluff.

[Stilly bay]

if its in a contract they want that fluff to use legally against you after the fact if something goes wrong so they will be able to take the dog from you. I would imagine.

we just adopted an old cat from a rescue. you want to talk about fluff! I am pretty sure I signed less paperwork when I bought my house. by the time they were done with me I wouldn't have been surprised if they wanted to know how many times a day I took a dump and in what proximity to the cats scratching post. 
its a bunch of useless stuff, but they make sure all their bases are covered if anything comes up and they want the animal back.

[ghosthunter]

Talking to a guide in the south of WA. He has one female left from a litter at 10 weeks old. She meets all the requirements on my list except she is not as light as I would like and she is 10 weeks instead of 8 weeks. Everything else is good.


A lot of learning happens in two weeks. He sent photos of her in water and introduced to birds. What do you think 10 weeks too old? Also of her parents on goose hunt trips. Breeding is good and other folks are swearing by her litter mates. She was the smaller dog in the litter but is good size. ??
Dont know.

[Stilly bay]

not a lot of folks would turn down a good pup for being ten weeks old instead of eight. quite a few would prefer a pup that got to spend more time with mom.

you also got to remember a light colored pup will mostly likely darken up a little bit as it matures.

[ghosthunter]

Turns out this am that 10 week pup damm never had health certs run on her because she was already bred.

No health certs on female.
10 weeks
Wish color was whiter.

ummmm

I think I am going to pass. For $1000 bucks I need to get all or of my list. Health certs. important.

[wildweeds]

Another to look at..............   http://candlewoodkennels.net/