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Bear Scouting and dogs
« on: July 13, 2012, 08:43:30 AM »
Just a quick question. I'm planning on going and scouting an area for bears soon and was wondering if it is legal to bring my puppy with me? I know you cant use them while actually hunting but is there a time frame before the hunting that you cant have them out? You cant hunt an area for 4 weeks after baiting it, is it similar for dogs? Shes just going to be a hiking buddy for me and not actually trying to track bears or anything like that.

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Re: Bear Scouting and dogs
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2012, 08:47:18 AM »
Sounds like you're going on a hike with you pup, you might just see some wildlife on the way.
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Re: Bear Scouting and dogs
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2012, 08:51:04 AM »
Yep...out for a walk with maybe a sidearm for personal protection.

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Re: Bear Scouting and dogs
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2012, 08:59:59 AM »
have a nice hike and watch out for bear  :chuckle:

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Re: Bear Scouting and dogs
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2012, 10:07:38 AM »
as long as pup is not chasing wildlife there won't be an issue.
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Re: Bear Scouting and dogs
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2012, 10:25:20 AM »
You're fine. Go find some bears! Now if you had a pack of hounds with you running free it would be a different story. But one dog, the WDFW won't say anything.

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Re: Bear Scouting and dogs
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2012, 10:35:31 AM »
Yeah - just hiking with a dog.  Presumably, you have no intention of having your pup chase a bear (which is probably wildlife harassment and not legal, anyway) and you're not going to shoot a bear.

(As an aside, I wonder if you poached a bear and had a dog if they could get you for both things?  Probably.)



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Re: Bear Scouting and dogs
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2012, 11:05:56 AM »
I agree with what all the others have said, but just so you know, there is no rule about waiting 4 weeks after an area has been baited. It's pretty much up to the discretion of the game warden to decide if you are guilty of hunting bears with bait or not.




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Re: Bear Scouting and dogs
« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2012, 01:39:49 PM »
Go for it!! I do it all the time with my two Jack Russell's :tup:

You are technically just hiking if the season isn't open anyway :twocents:
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Re: Bear Scouting and dogs
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2012, 02:13:40 PM »
I agree with what all the others have said, but just so you know, there is no rule about waiting 4 weeks after an area has been baited. It's pretty much up to the discretion of the game warden to decide if you are guilty of hunting bears with bait or not.

I could have sworn that there was a time limit to what is considered an active bait site. Oh well, doesn't matter for me. I don't bait anything wether it be deer, bear or the lockness monster so I'm not concerned about it. Thanks for the heads up though.

Looks like ill be out hiking next weekend.

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Re: Bear Scouting and dogs
« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2012, 01:35:54 PM »
how do you think it would play out if you were hiking with your dog mid august and saw a bear a shot it. your dog was on a leash and isn't a hound or anything. just opportunity presented itself? illegal?

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Re: Bear Scouting and dogs
« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2012, 06:15:54 PM »
No, I think most game wardens have enough sense to know that anyone hunting bears with dogs (illegally) would have a pack of hounds. Not a lab or random breed of dog. For it to be illegal, your dog would have to tree a bear or cat, and you would have to shoot it out of the tree. Besides, Ive never seen a bear thats afraid of one dog, making it less than likely that your dog would tree a bear by itself. But i guess ya never know.

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Re: Bear Scouting and dogs
« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2012, 05:53:37 AM »
No, I think most game wardens have enough sense to know that anyone hunting bears with dogs (illegally) would have a pack of hounds. Not a lab or random breed of dog. For it to be illegal, your dog would have to tree a bear or cat, and you would have to shoot it out of the tree. Besides, Ive never seen a bear thats afraid of one dog, making it less than likely that your dog would tree a bear by itself. But i guess ya never know.
Was told by 2 different game wardens that it doesn't matter what breed of dog it is, if you are hunting bears & have a dog with you...... you are illegally hunting bears with a dog!  :o
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Re: Bear Scouting and dogs
« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2012, 06:16:15 AM »
No, I think most game wardens have enough sense to know that anyone hunting bears with dogs (illegally) would have a pack of hounds. Not a lab or random breed of dog. For it to be illegal, your dog would have to tree a bear or cat, and you would have to shoot it out of the tree. Besides, Ive never seen a bear thats afraid of one dog, making it less than likely that your dog would tree a bear by itself. But i guess ya never know.
Was told by 2 different game wardens that it doesn't matter what breed of dog it is, if you are hunting bears & have a dog with you...... you are illegally hunting bears with a dog!  :o
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Been told the same.

Also, a site member was harrassed by WDFW because he was near a bear trap with a dog kennel in the back of his rig.




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Re: Bear Scouting and dogs
« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2012, 06:19:05 AM »
If you have a dog with you while hunting bear, you will likely be cited.

 http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=77.15.245

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Re: Bear Scouting and dogs
« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2012, 06:22:07 AM »
why would you even take a dog bear hunting.Unless you are hound hunting,why?hiking before season I could see it..

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Re: Bear Scouting and dogs
« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2012, 06:41:48 AM »
why would you even take a dog bear hunting.Unless you are hound hunting,why?hiking before season I could see it..

I could easily see someone having a dog with them while bear hunting. What about the guy who takes his dog grouse hunting? He brings a rifle along just in case he happens to see a bear. So now he's bear hunting and has a dog.

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Re: Bear Scouting and dogs
« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2012, 06:50:34 AM »
why would you even take a dog bear hunting.Unless you are hound hunting,why?hiking before season I could see it..

I could easily see someone having a dog with them while bear hunting. What about the guy who takes his dog grouse hunting? He brings a rifle along just in case he happens to see a bear. So now he's bear hunting and has a dog.
so the guy is hiking with a shotgun and a rifle?Or driving around with a dog in the vehical?Maybe hunting grouse with a big bore rifle?

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Re: Bear Scouting and dogs
« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2012, 06:54:09 AM »
why would you even take a dog bear hunting.Unless you are hound hunting,why?hiking before season I could see it..

I could easily see someone having a dog with them while bear hunting. What about the guy who takes his dog grouse hunting? He brings a rifle along just in case he happens to see a bear. So now he's bear hunting and has a dog.
so the guy is hiking with a shotgun and a rifle?Or driving around with a dog in the vehical?Maybe hunting grouse with a big bore rifle?

All kinds of different scenarios could occur. Most likely yeah, the dog is just in the vehicle and he sees a bear between grouse hunting spots. Or what if he wants to carry some slugs in his pocket while grouse hunting in case he sees a bear? (or a 44 mag).




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Re: Bear Scouting and dogs
« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2012, 06:58:29 AM »
why would you even take a dog bear hunting.Unless you are hound hunting,why?hiking before season I could see it..

I could easily see someone having a dog with them while bear hunting. What about the guy who takes his dog grouse hunting? He brings a rifle along just in case he happens to see a bear. So now he's bear hunting and has a dog.
so the guy is hiking with a shotgun and a rifle?Or driving around with a dog in the vehical?Maybe hunting grouse with a big bore rifle?

All kinds of different scenarios could occur. Most likely yeah, the dog is just in the vehicle and he sees a bear between grouse hunting spots. Or what if he wants to carry some slugs in his pocket while grouse hunting in case he sees a bear? (or a 44 mag).
then he would be breaking the law,as I see it.once he starts hunting bears in the field with a dog....

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Re: Bear Scouting and dogs
« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2012, 01:35:24 PM »
I would love to take my dog bear hunting. She would not aid me in getting the bear at all, but she is a great companion. She also would not scare the bear off the bear(she sits to low in the brush to be seen).
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Re: Bear Scouting and dogs
« Reply #21 on: July 16, 2012, 02:33:25 PM »
It's not bear season yet,, u should be fine. Late shed hunting trip i say.

 


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