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says Christensen. "It's kind of a fair chase issue. It's not very sporting to put that bait out."
Officers say Erickson is a guy who should've known better. He worked as a manager at the Cabela's in Lacey, and should be well-versed the law against bear baiting.
I wonder if his cabin will be up forsale?
dont bait the bears but go ahead and bait the deer and elk. Ive always wondered what the difference is.
Not that this was right in anyway shape or form but I think is BS we cant bait bears in Wa. The blues is COVERED with bears and with only a handfull of tags for a spring hunt there is only gonna be more and more and less and less Elk and Deer. Not to mention the WOLVES! Or very large coyotes! (story to that)
Quote from: Mxracer532 on July 18, 2012, 08:41:29 PMNot that this was right in anyway shape or form but I think is BS we cant bait bears in Wa. The blues is COVERED with bears and with only a handfull of tags for a spring hunt there is only gonna be more and more and less and less Elk and Deer. Not to mention the WOLVES! Or very large coyotes! (story to that) Bears do not have that big of an impact on deer and elk. Wolves have a much, much larger impact on the deer and elk. Coyotes have more of an impact than bears do.
Quote from: Kola16 on July 18, 2012, 10:42:53 PMQuote from: Mxracer532 on July 18, 2012, 08:41:29 PMNot that this was right in anyway shape or form but I think is BS we cant bait bears in Wa. The blues is COVERED with bears and with only a handfull of tags for a spring hunt there is only gonna be more and more and less and less Elk and Deer. Not to mention the WOLVES! Or very large coyotes! (story to that) Bears do not have that big of an impact on deer and elk. Wolves have a much, much larger impact on the deer and elk. Coyotes have more of an impact than bears do.I hope that statement was a joke??? U have any idea how many fawns and calves are lost every spring to bears? I think it would astound u
That was a lot of doughnuts I can see why there were 12 bears at a time.
Suspended sentence.... BS. On 14 counts.... double BS.
Quote from: huntnnw on July 18, 2012, 11:57:45 PMQuote from: Kola16 on July 18, 2012, 10:42:53 PMQuote from: Mxracer532 on July 18, 2012, 08:41:29 PMNot that this was right in anyway shape or form but I think is BS we cant bait bears in Wa. The blues is COVERED with bears and with only a handfull of tags for a spring hunt there is only gonna be more and more and less and less Elk and Deer. Not to mention the WOLVES! Or very large coyotes! (story to that) Bears do not have that big of an impact on deer and elk. Wolves have a much, much larger impact on the deer and elk. Coyotes have more of an impact than bears do.I hope that statement was a joke??? U have any idea how many fawns and calves are lost every spring to bears? I think it would astound uI was thinking the same thing.
Quote from: billythekidrock on July 19, 2012, 06:13:26 AMQuote from: huntnnw on July 18, 2012, 11:57:45 PMQuote from: Kola16 on July 18, 2012, 10:42:53 PMQuote from: Mxracer532 on July 18, 2012, 08:41:29 PMNot that this was right in anyway shape or form but I think is BS we cant bait bears in Wa. The blues is COVERED with bears and with only a handfull of tags for a spring hunt there is only gonna be more and more and less and less Elk and Deer. Not to mention the WOLVES! Or very large coyotes! (story to that) Bears do not have that big of an impact on deer and elk. Wolves have a much, much larger impact on the deer and elk. Coyotes have more of an impact than bears do.I hope that statement was a joke??? U have any idea how many fawns and calves are lost every spring to bears? I think it would astound uI was thinking the same thing.This is a picture from a trail cam posted on Redneck Hunting Blinds Facebook page. Proof right there. Don't think it is in Washington but still
Quote from: Mxracer532 on July 18, 2012, 08:41:29 PMNot that this was right in anyway shape or form but I think is BS we cant bait bears in Wa. The blues is COVERED with bears and with only a handfull of tags for a spring hunt there is only gonna be more and more and less and less Elk and Deer. Not to mention the WOLVES! Or very large coyotes! (story to that) I beleive bating bears is the most humane way to take a bear.Bears do not have that big of an impact on deer and elk. Wolves have a much, much larger impact on the deer and elk. Coyotes have more of an impact than bears do.
Quote from: Kola16 on July 18, 2012, 10:42:53 PMQuote from: Mxracer532 on July 18, 2012, 08:41:29 PMNot that this was right in anyway shape or form but I think is BS we cant bait bears in Wa. The blues is COVERED with bears and with only a handfull of tags for a spring hunt there is only gonna be more and more and less and less Elk and Deer. Not to mention the WOLVES! Or very large coyotes! (story to that) Bears do not have that big of an impact on deer and elk. Wolves have a much, much larger impact on the deer and elk. Coyotes have more of an impact than bears do.Bears here in Central Washington are calf elk butchers along with the big cats.
You know your screwed when both side turn on you I agree baiting should be legal but it isn't so we don't do it. Those that break the law are criminals. You can't pick and choose what laws you will fallow. It just seems that black and white to me
QuoteOfficers say Erickson is a guy who should've known better. He worked as a manager at the Cabela's in Lacey, and should be well-versed the law against bear baiting. Really?Just because he manages a retail outlet he is supposed to know game laws? What a stupid statement.
My thoughts on this, if you have a tag and the season is open, it should be up to the individual as to how he hunts.......not some non-hunter/anti hunter group that has a politician writing laws for them. Bears , among other predators, can be managed with a quota system......quota is reached, end of season. Its not like baiting bear will eliminate them. Baiting is alot of work to do it right. Not all hunters have the time or are willing to put forth the effort to bait.I personally, am tired of politicians and those that think they know whats best for the rest of us. We are over managed and suffocated with the burden of obeying laws that shouldnt be.
I'd say his sentence was pretty stiff. He lost his hunting rights for 5 years, got 6 days in jail, lost a 2007 Suburban, and paid over $12,000 in penalties, fees, and fines. All for doing something that shouldn't even be against the law. And not only that, but does the WDFW even have any proof that he killed bears with the use of bait? Apparently they didn't, as they dropped the majority of the charges. Yes they have photos of a bait pile, and photos of dead bears, but where's the proof that the bait was used in killing the bears?No, he should not have done what he did. I'm not saying that. But I do feel the penalties were sufficient.
Quote from: bobcat on July 19, 2012, 06:18:33 PMI'd say his sentence was pretty stiff. He lost his hunting rights for 5 years, got 6 days in jail, lost a 2007 Suburban, and paid over $12,000 in penalties, fees, and fines. All for doing something that shouldn't even be against the law. And not only that, but does the WDFW even have any proof that he killed bears with the use of bait? Apparently they didn't, as they dropped the majority of the charges. Yes they have photos of a bait pile, and photos of dead bears, but where's the proof that the bait was used in killing the bears?No, he should not have done what he did. I'm not saying that. But I do feel the penalties were sufficient.But it is against the law and justifying his actions with this argument is fodder for the antis to say that hunters do what they want, regardless of laws. If you don't like the laws, you can try and change them. But breaking laws you don't agree with is on you. As a hunter who fights regularly to retain my privileges and rights, I will stay beyond reproach or lose any credibility when it comes to calling the antis out on the carpet for a duel. Give them nothing.
Quote from: pianoman9701 on July 25, 2012, 09:40:03 AMQuote from: bobcat on July 19, 2012, 06:18:33 PMI'd say his sentence was pretty stiff. He lost his hunting rights for 5 years, got 6 days in jail, lost a 2007 Suburban, and paid over $12,000 in penalties, fees, and fines. All for doing something that shouldn't even be against the law. And not only that, but does the WDFW even have any proof that he killed bears with the use of bait? Apparently they didn't, as they dropped the majority of the charges. Yes they have photos of a bait pile, and photos of dead bears, but where's the proof that the bait was used in killing the bears?No, he should not have done what he did. I'm not saying that. But I do feel the penalties were sufficient.But it is against the law and justifying his actions with this argument is fodder for the antis to say that hunters do what they want, regardless of laws. If you don't like the laws, you can try and change them. But breaking laws you don't agree with is on you. As a hunter who fights regularly to retain my privileges and rights, I will stay beyond reproach or lose any credibility when it comes to calling the antis out on the carpet for a duel. Give them nothing.I wasn't trying to justify his actions, only trying to point out that the penalties he received were more than sufficient.(since it seems many were saying that they let him off too easy)
