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Re: 8th pack confirmed in Wa.
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2012, 12:47:11 AM »
Things are getting out of hand now.

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Re: 8th pack confirmed in Wa.
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2012, 01:29:11 AM »
Wash. wildlife officials: 8th wolf pack confirmed

SPOKANE, Wash. (AP) — Washington Fish and Wildlife officials say they've confirmed an eighth wolf pack in the state.

An adult wolf believed to be the pack's alpha male and a pup were caught Monday in northwestern Stevens County near the Canadian border. The adult got a monitoring collar and the pup got an ear tag.

Wildlife officials say this is being called the "Wedge" pack, named for the wedge-shaped part of Stevens County between the Kettle River and the Columbia River.

Just last month, officials said the agency had confirmed a seventh Washington wolf pack, this one in southern Stevens County, north of the Spokane Indian Reservation. They're calling that one the Huckleberry pack.

http://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/Wash-wildlife-officials-8th-wolf-pack-confirmed-3711603.php#ixzz20rmaUZtO
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Re: 8th pack confirmed in Wa.
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2012, 01:43:28 AM »
They might have about half the packs in NE Washington confirmed now.  :yike:

Is this really any surprise, those of us who live here and spend time in the woods have been telling everyone that we have a lot of wolves. Look at the documented sightings here on H-W:  http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=79244.0

Honestly, WDFW only has about half of the packs confirmed. I know that may be hard for some to beleive but we have photos of a second wedge pack in GMU 105, we have numerous reports and photos of a second and possibly a third pack in GMU 111 where they have only confirmed the 1 smackout pack thus far. We have photos of wolves in GMU 108, they have not confirmed any there yet, and we have many reports of more wolves in GMU 121 Huckleberry suggesting 2 or 3 packs in that GMU and they have only confirmed 1 pack.

I stated on this forum last year, "There are nearly enough packs in NE Washington to delist." Now perhaps more of you will beleive this.

Here's what is happening right now, these packs are all raising pups, within 2 or 3 years we will be so overrun with wolves in NE Washington that some wolves will be forced to move to other parts of the state. So stay tuned, the rest of Washington will soon be as overrun with wolves as NE Washington and Idaho. :twocents:
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Re: 8th pack confirmed in Wa.
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2012, 02:35:55 AM »
So what does that make....5 packs (confirmed anyways) up in the NE corner? There is more then that..... :twocents:  :bash:
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Re: 8th pack confirmed in Wa.
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2012, 03:00:44 AM »
Based on photos and sightings, I firmly beleive there are currently at least 15 wolf packs in NE WA. Please keep in mind that this will increase each year.    http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=79244.0

GMU 101 - Malo Pack   (sightings and photo)
GMU 101 - Barstow Pack   (WDFW admitted, photo)
GMU 101 - Sherman Pack  (photos and sightings)
GMU 101 - San Poil Pack   (sightings)

GMU 105 - Wedge Pack  (WDFW confirmed)
GMU 105 - East Wedge Pack   (photos and sightings)

GMU 108 - Douglas Pack   (photos and sightings)

GMU 111 - Smackout Pack   (WDFW confirmed)
GMU 111 - Dominion Pack   (sightings and photos of tracks)
GMU 111 - Ione/Metaline Pack   (sightings)

GMU 113 - Diamond Pack   (WDFW confirmed)
GMU 113 - Salmo Pack   (WDFW confirmed)

GMU 117 - Ruby Pack   (WDFW admitted, may or may not be the same wolves that were on Chewelah Creek)

GMU 121 - Huckleberry Pack   (WDFW confirmed)
GMU 121 - Huckleberry Pack   (sightings all over the unit suggest at least two packs, possibly 3 packs)
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Re: 8th pack confirmed in Wa.
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2012, 03:54:16 AM »
Based on photos and sightings, I firmly believe there are currently at least 15 wolf packs in NE WA. Please keep in mind that this will increase each year.    http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=79244.0

GMU 101 - Malo Pack   (sightings and photo)
GMU 101 - Barstow Pack   (WDFW admitted, photo)
GMU 101 - Sherman Pack  (photos and sightings)
GMU 101 - San Poil Pack   (sightings)

GMU 105 - Wedge Pack  (WDFW confirmed)
GMU 105 - East Wedge Pack   (photos and sightings)

GMU 108 - Douglas Pack   (photos and sightings)

GMU 111 - Smackout Pack   (WDFW confirmed)
GMU 111 - Dominion Pack   (sightings and photos of tracks)
GMU 111 - Ione/Metaline Pack   (sightings)

GMU 113 - Diamond Pack   (WDFW confirmed)
GMU 113 - Salmo Pack   (WDFW confirmed)

GMU 117 - Ruby Pack   (WDFW admitted, may or may not be the same wolves that were on Chewelah Creek)

GMU 121 - Huckleberry Pack   (WDFW confirmed)
GMU 121 - Huckleberry Pack   (sightings all over the unit suggest at least two packs, possibly 3 packs)

bearpaw, I believe it!! These are solid facts in the NE portion of the state not to mention the facts on the packs in the North  Central part like the Pasayten wilderness, the Okanogan, Methow Valley, Twisp River and the Sawtooth Range which at some point I heard the state actually has been in denial about reintroducing them in some of these areas. :dunno: :bdid: I have personally seen these wolfs in the Rendezvous pass and wolf creek areas in the Methow Valley, the first time was 20 yrs ago and many times since and currently. :hunter:       
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Re: 8th pack confirmed in Wa.
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2012, 07:05:19 AM »
Been in the territory of every one of those listed Dale.  They want DNA profiles, all they need to do is to start sampling *censored*.    Its everywhere.   

Someone is monitoring the wolves on Red Top (North fork Teanaway).  I found $hit one day (full of elk hair by the way) and the next day came through and it was marked with ribbon.  I saw a bunch more ribbon and checked it out and sure enough a bunch of tracks in the mud. 

Sign up Timberwolf also....I need to go put that into that thread.    The elk are acting way different TOO.  Anyone worth their salt in the woods would know their behavior demonstrates that they are being hounded by a predator. 

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Re: 8th pack confirmed in Wa.
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2012, 07:12:08 AM »
How long before we get some tags :mgun: :mgun:

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Re: 8th pack confirmed in Wa.
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2012, 07:17:42 AM »
How long before we get some tags :mgun: :mgun:

Not until we get 15 breeding pairs that are in ALL THE REGIONS OF THE STATE for 3 YEARS!!!   You guys really need to read the states plan for this...   

There has to be packs established in every region (see SW Washingtong and the Penninsula) with 3 consecutive years of pups being born and raised before they will even CONSIDER letting us have tags...   This could go on for 10-15 more years before it is said and done..  Eastern Washington will become a dead zone for deer and elk in that amount of time....  When I was at the meeting at CWU, they made it very clear that this was the plan they were using and there was NO deviation from it.....
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Re: 8th pack confirmed in Wa.
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2012, 07:31:53 AM »
I know the basics of the plan.  It was more of a statement than a question.

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Re: 8th pack confirmed in Wa.
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2012, 08:00:07 AM »
http://www.king5.com/news/environment/Capture-confirms-presence-of-a-new-Washington-wolf-pack-162636576.html



Capture confirms presence of a new Washington wolf pack

by GARY CHITTIM / KING 5 News
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Posted on July 16, 2012 at 2:08 PM

Updated yesterday at 11:53 PM

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NEAR KETTLE FALLS, Wash. -- Rancher Bill McIrvin and his hands are on constant alert after recent attacks left two calves dead and other cows wounded or missing.

He said he wants the state to take action against a wolf pack -- seen, but never confirmed -- in the Colville National Forest where McIrvin has a lease to graze his cattle.

Last week the state took action, and on Monday a WDFW biologist captured, collared and released what tracker Paul Frame said is the alpha male of the pack. Then Frame captured what the state had been waiting for -- a pup.

A WDFW spokesperson said the pup's presence is enough to declare the wolves here an official Washington State pack and count them toward the state's tally needed to remove wolves from its endangered species list.

The Wedge Pack becomes the eighth confirmed pack in the state. If that number grows to 15, and adult pairs continue to mate in three designated areas of the state, the wolf will be removed the Washington State Endangered Species List. That would allow ranchers and others greater freedom to protect their property from wolves.

King 5 had exclusive access to Monday's capture. Tune in Monday night at 10 and 11 to learn more.
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Re: 8th pack confirmed in Wa.
« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2012, 09:08:17 AM »
The fact that MONTANA had a season THIS YEAR, and the wolf population still grew %15 should tell you something.   If interested in the whole article, I can post it.   Its froma biological approach too, not a hunters perspective. 

They discussed other means to increase the harvest which fell short %25 EVEN AFTER extending it.   

Introductions of electronic calls, multiple harvest, and trapping are ideas they have thought to introduce for this year.

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Re: Re: 8th pack confirmed in Wa.
« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2012, 09:10:49 AM »
The fact that MONTANA had a season THIS YEAR, and the wolf population still grew %15 should tell you something.   If interested in the whole article, I can post it.   Its froma biological approach too, not a hunters perspective. 

They discussed other means to increase the harvest which fell short %25 EVEN AFTER extending it.   

Introductions of electronic calls, multiple harvest, and trapping are ideas they have thought to introduce for this year.
I thought trapping was already a done deal they can trap up to 3 wolf's per year

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Re: 8th pack confirmed in Wa.
« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2012, 09:16:05 AM »
after we reach 15 breeding pairs{confirmed}could be 20 breeding pairs at least I'm sure.But then the battle will start.money will pour in to halt a hunt,or delisting for yrs..as we seen elsewhere.The state will blow more money on this battle in court....Hoping we have some folks in office by then,a stretch, I know, to put the kibosh on it..

 


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