Ammo recommendations Remington 700 .300 win mag?

[KenPCPilot]

I shoot factory ammo and have tried Winchester, Remington Core-loct and Scirrocos so far.  The Scirrocos seem to have the best grouping consistency.  I use this for hunting bear.  At $50.00 a box it can get real expensive experimenting with ammo.  I would appreciate any feed back on what ammo has been a consistent performer.  I am thinking about trying a box of Barnes since it is advertised to keep most of it weight and integrity on impact. 

[ELKBURGER]

I used to shoot the winchester failsafe a while back in my Rem 700. They shot great groups with great weight retension. I have been reloading now for a long time and have been experimenting with various combinations. I have no idea what the failsafe rounds cost now. Good luck

[Huntbear]

Federal Prem.  With accubonds..

[NW-GSP]

I have been using Sierra game kings. 165gr. I reload so I'm not sure what it would cost.
You can get your money back pretty quick with a single stage press

[elkoholic1]

Federal Prem.  With accubonds..

 

[WSU]

Federal Prem.  With accubonds..

These bullets were accurate out of my .300 mag rem 700. 

[Biggerhammer]

The 300 Win mag has rated in my top three favorite cartridges for 20 plus years. I have taken plenty of Mulies and Elk with the cartridge and for a duel purpose bullet I prefer a little more speed than bullet weight. The 165gr Nosler Accubond is what perfected the .300 Win Mag for me, if you hand load a stout charge of RL-22 behind it works wonders.

[Russ McDonald]

I am shooting 180gr Fedral Fusions out of mine but haven't put many rounds through it yet.

[Bofire]

  for bear in a 300 mag, use the cheap 180 federal blue box. Black Bears aint any tougher than a deer. I have killed a few with a 300, seen many killed with other cartridges.
Carl

[300rum]

What I am about to tell you is terribly expensive but worth every penny.  Don't worry about manufacture, they are all good enough.  Don't get into which bullet is better blah, blah, blah.  Buy 5 or so boxes from the different major manufacturers and shoot five shot groups (off a rest or prone, bagged in) say at 100 or even 200 yards (I like 200yds), cleaning after each 5-shot group.  Don't worry about who wins, just buy whatever is better with the same lot number if you can still find it.  I will be different for each rifle that you own.  Give away or sell the other ammo that you didn't use, you will be happy you did.

I reload and couldn't match factory after I did this with my rifles.  In the long run it is way cheaper.  I have a Remington 700 that clover leafs at 100yds, everything touching with Winchester Supreme.  I came nowhere near that with Corelokts, Remington's premium gold box, Hornady, Federal or Nosler.  Every rifle I have done this on, there is a clear winner.       

[Biggerhammer]

What I am about to tell you is terribly expensive but worth every penny.  Don't worry about manufacture, they are all good enough.  Don't get into which bullet is better blah, blah, blah.  Buy 5 or so boxes from the different major manufacturers and shoot five shot groups (off a rest or prone, bagged in) say at 100 or even 200 yards (I like 200yds), cleaning after each 5-shot group.  Don't worry about who wins, just buy whatever is better with the same lot number if you can still find it.  I will be different for each rifle that you own.  Give away or sell the other ammo that you didn't use, you will be happy you did.

I reload and couldn't match factory after I did this with my rifles.  In the long run it is way cheaper.  I have a Remington 700 that clover leafs at 100yds, everything touching with Winchester Supreme.  I came nowhere near that with Corelokts, Remington's premium gold box, Hornady, Federal or Nosler.  Every rifle I have done this on, there is a clear winner.       

You might want to go at your accuracy testing a little different. If your cleaning after each 5 shot group and then shooting another five shot group for accuracy and so on. Then it is highly probable that your not seeing your rifles true potential. I know that most of my custom barrels need 1-5 five rounds just to settle in after a cleaning at 100 yards that may not seam much to some but it matters at distance. I usually do my accuracy testing at 300 and you can watch the groups settle down after the first 1-3 rounds out of a clean barrel. I have very few barrels and have had in the past very few barrels that shoot the exact same point of impact clean as they are fouled. I have a 11 twist .300 Win mag with a Mike Rock barrel that shoots lights out no matter what and it's a rarity in the most part. Factory barrels are even more temperamental.

I always leave the range or my shooting session with 5 plus rounds or so on my barrel and that's how it goes to the field.

[longrangekiller]

Federal Prem.  With accubonds..

These bullets were accurate out of my .300 mag rem 700.

 

[300rum]

You are right about a fouled barrel, my go-to rifle shoots better fouled also.  The only reason for the cleaning is that I am trying (for the test) to keep it as close to the same as possible between the different manufacturers.  By cleaning I only ran a patch through it.  Just trying to keep it somewhat consistent. 

What I am about to tell you is terribly expensive but worth every penny.  Don't worry about manufacture, they are all good enough.  Don't get into which bullet is better blah, blah, blah.  Buy 5 or so boxes from the different major manufacturers and shoot five shot groups (off a rest or prone, bagged in) say at 100 or even 200 yards (I like 200yds), cleaning after each 5-shot group.  Don't worry about who wins, just buy whatever is better with the same lot number if you can still find it.  I will be different for each rifle that you own.  Give away or sell the other ammo that you didn't use, you will be happy you did.

I reload and couldn't match factory after I did this with my rifles.  In the long run it is way cheaper.  I have a Remington 700 that clover leafs at 100yds, everything touching with Winchester Supreme.  I came nowhere near that with Corelokts, Remington's premium gold box, Hornady, Federal or Nosler.  Every rifle I have done this on, there is a clear winner.       

You might want to go at your accuracy testing a little different. If your cleaning after each 5 shot group and then shooting another five shot group for accuracy and so on. Then it is highly probable that your not seeing your rifles true potential. I know that most of my custom barrels need 1-5 five rounds just to settle in after a cleaning at 100 yards that may not seam much to some but it matters at distance. I usually do my accuracy testing at 300 and you can watch the groups settle down after the first 1-3 rounds out of a clean barrel. I have very few barrels and have had in the past very few barrels that shoot the exact same point of impact clean as they are fouled. I have a 11 twist .300 Win mag with a Mike Rock barrel that shoots lights out no matter what and it's a rarity in the most part. Factory barrels are even more temperamental.

I always leave the range or my shooting session with 5 plus rounds or so on my barrel and that's how it goes to the field.

[bearpaw]

I shoot factory ammo and have tried Winchester, Remington Core-loct and Scirrocos so far.  The Scirrocos seem to have the best grouping consistency.  I use this for hunting bear.  At $50.00 a box it can get real expensive experimenting with ammo.  I would appreciate any feed back on what ammo has been a consistent performer.  I am thinking about trying a box of Barnes since it is advertised to keep most of it weight and integrity on impact.

I think bear are one of the tougher animals in the 48 states. I like Barnes real well, but I would try grouping them in your rifle then you will know if they are a good choice. There is truth that not all guns like all bullets.

[carpsniperg2]

The etip by nosler is really working well for me in my 300 win mag. I have flattened 2 bears with them the last 2 years. They are a solid like the Barnes and hit hard and hold up extremely well.

[bearpaw]

discussing bullets is just like discussing the best auto brands 

[Biggerhammer]

The etip by nosler is really working well for me in my 300 win mag. I have flattened 2 bears with them the last 2 years. They are a solid like the Barnes and hit hard and hold up extremely well.

I keep checking Noslers Shootersproshop to catch a smoking deal on a over run of the E-Tip but no luck so far.

[Biggerhammer]

discussing bullets is just like discussing the best auto brands 

I'll shoot pretty much anything if need be but I have my preferences.

[carpsniperg2]

Hammer I talked to my buddy there yesterday. They are smashed and so far in the negtive on a ton of stuff. I have about 12 things to order and they only had 3 of them in stock!!! I said piss on it and he said he would start sneeking me a box here or there so I can have some for this year

They have a few new items that I think some people might be happy with for 2013

[Biggerhammer]

Hammer I talked to my buddy there yesterday. They are smashed and so far in the negtive on a ton of stuff. I have about 12 things to order and they only had 3 of them in stock!!! I said piss on it and he said he would start sneeking me a box here or there so I can have some for this year

They have a few new items that I think some people might be happy with for 2013

Must be nice having on guy on the "Inside" with Nosler! Did you tell him I need a .458 Accubond, preferably 370 grains or so?

[carpsniperg2]

I may or may not have suggested that I told him I plan to buy a 458 lott one of these days and a heavy accubond would be sweet

[Bob33]

Here is my opinion: you are asking people a question they cannot adequately answer.  The only one who can tell you what ammunition your gun will shoot well is...your gun.  What shoots well in one gun may, or may not shoot well in another, even an identical make and model.

There is just no way around it. Guns are like most people: finicky.  You must ask your gun what it likes, and obey.

[Biggerhammer]

Here is my opinion: you are asking people a question they cannot adequately answer.  The only one who can tell you what ammunition your gun will shoot well is...your gun.  What shoots well in one gun may, or may not shoot well in another, even an identical make and model.

There is just no way around it. Guns are like most people: finicky.  You must ask your gun what it likes, and obey.

Fact of the matter is, pretty much any factory ammo is going to shoot MOA of deer when it comes to a typical hunting  cenerio.

[Bob33]

Here is my opinion: you are asking people a question they cannot adequately answer.  The only one who can tell you what ammunition your gun will shoot well is...your gun.  What shoots well in one gun may, or may not shoot well in another, even an identical make and model.

There is just no way around it. Guns are like most people: finicky.  You must ask your gun what it likes, and obey.

Fact of the matter is, pretty much any factory ammo is going to shoot MOA of deer when it comes to a typical hunting  cenerio.

Yes, even with a clean barrel.

[Biggerhammer]

Here is my opinion: you are asking people a question they cannot adequately answer.  The only one who can tell you what ammunition your gun will shoot well is...your gun.  What shoots well in one gun may, or may not shoot well in another, even an identical make and model.

There is just no way around it. Guns are like most people: finicky.  You must ask your gun what it likes, and obey.

Fact of the matter is, pretty much any factory ammo is going to shoot MOA of deer when it comes to a typical hunting  cenerio.

Yes, even with a clean barrel.

Yep, slinging a bullet at a deer size target is a whole different ball game than accuracy testing, that's a fact. Clean barrel or not.

[Mtn.Ghost]

I shoot factory ammo and have tried Winchester, Remington Core-loct and Scirrocos so far.  The Scirrocos seem to have the best grouping consistency.  I use this for hunting bear.  At $50.00 a box it can get real expensive experimenting with ammo.  I would appreciate any feed back on what ammo has been a consistent performer.  I am thinking about trying a box of Barnes since it is advertised to keep most of it weight and integrity on impact.

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[Huntbear]

I reload and couldn't match factory after I did this with my rifles.     

Not quite sure about your reloading techniques, but my reloads will shoot circles around factory loads, AND I get the bullet I want and the velocity I want...  And it is a helluva lot cheaper than factory loads...  instead of $2-3.50 a round, I am down around a $1.20 a round for even my .338 WM, even cheaper on my handgun loads.. closer to .25 a round.

With the added benefit of not having a bunch of crappy factory stuff laying around..

[C-Money]

I have always liked the Federal Classic ammo in the blue box. Had good groups in evry rifle I have ever tried them in.

[300rum]

Yes, if you take the time and have the right equipment.  Benchrest type accuracy just isn't important to me nor worth the hassle or money.  You can sink a grand easy into your loader and spend even more time at it but if you are shooting a box or two a year, factory is more than acceptable for hunting.  It comes down to finding the right factory round for your rifle, which means buying a few of the different manufacturers.  I used to load for the rifles but then I tried the above posted method and it just doesn't make sense to spend the time/money to reload.  Like I said, with factory I can get a 5 shot group touching each other at 100yds (maybe a slight flier).  I just didn't see enough difference when I reloaded. 

Pistol on the other hand, is entirely different.  .223 in high volumes is different as I shoot it in high volumes.  In my opinion the average Joe who wants to hunt deer and elk is better off just finding the right factory ammo that shoots best in his rifle.       

I reload and couldn't match factory after I did this with my rifles.     

Not quite sure about your reloading techniques, but my reloads will shoot circles around factory loads, AND I get the bullet I want and the velocity I want...  And it is a helluva lot cheaper than factory loads...  instead of $2-3.50 a round, I am down around a $1.20 a round for even my .338 WM, even cheaper on my handgun loads.. closer to .25 a round.

With the added benefit of not having a bunch of crappy factory stuff laying around..

[Biggerhammer]

I reload and couldn't match factory after I did this with my rifles.     

Not quite sure about your reloading techniques, but my reloads will shoot circles around factory loads, AND I get the bullet I want and the velocity I want...  And it is a helluva lot cheaper than factory loads...  instead of $2-3.50 a round, I am down around a $1.20 a round for even my .338 WM, even cheaper on my handgun loads.. closer to .25 a round.

With the added benefit of not having a bunch of crappy factory stuff laying around..

Hahaha! I love it!

Crappy factory. SISSY stuff! Wahooooo! 

Saw a box of Weatherby .338-378 Weatherby ammo yesterday. 20 cartridges to the box, loaded with 250gr Barnes Tripple Shocks. 151.00 bucks a box. I was confused for a second, I thought hell of a price tag for a box of SISSY factory ammo, but what a Macho, crusher of a round to have to stuff in a piece of crap, free bore slumming, nasty ass Weatherby rifle.