Got him in the bottom of a big cut we've been watching for awhile now. I watched him for about 5 minutes before he finally raised his head up so I could judge his size. When I saw the space between his ears I knew he was a shooter. I'm guessing he's going over 350 with a 19" melon but I'm not sure. Seemed liked 500 trying to move him around! Eighty yard shot with a 300 WSM took his shoulder out.