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Did fish and game release wolves?
« on: August 07, 2012, 11:34:57 AM »
I heard that fish and game released wolves in washington, talked to people last night that had huskies and a wolf breeded it and the huskie had wolf/huskie puppies, this was by spokane area somewhere.Did anyone else hear about them releasing wolves, and if so what does everybody think about this.I think its stupid because they will kill alot of deer and elk off.

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Re: Did fish and game release wolves?
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2012, 11:56:50 AM »
You just opened a big can of worms...

And do a search. You'll find a lot of topics about this

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Re: Did fish and game release wolves?
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2012, 11:59:59 AM »
This has been discussed many times on this board.  I think that even the most ardent supporter of the WDFW would believe that there has been a degree of stonewalling on part of the Department, especially on the presence of wolf populations in some areas early in the process, most believe that reintroduction by the agencies or recognized and quasi-mainstream groups have not occurred. 

The official explanation is that the wolf populations of Washington are natural populations walking to Washington from Idaho and Canada.

Populations have been introduced into portions of Montana and Wyoming.

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Re: Did fish and game release wolves?
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2012, 12:02:32 PM »
I will check back on this one tonight after I make some popcorn.
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Re: Did fish and game release wolves?
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2012, 12:05:59 PM »
thanks for your opinion on this topic

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Re: Did fish and game release wolves?
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2012, 12:10:42 PM »
yes sir all ya gotta do is do a search and you will find endless topics on wolves in washington, i doubt there are to mant members that havent posted something pertaining to those deer and elk killn machines  :tup:
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Re: Did fish and game release wolves?
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2012, 12:12:37 PM »
I know of an individual that released his whole pack of hybrids in Stevens County, most people in my area know about this incident, I think that has likely happened several times in Washington. There have been a lot of claims of wolves being released by WDFW, but none have been proven and I doubt they would try. On the other hand, I am highly suspect of wolf groups releasing wolves.

Remember the story about the white van in the Okanogan.

As far and wide as wolves roam, WDFW doesn't need to release them, they are moving in from Idaho and BC anyway.

I also agree the most frustrating thing was getting WDFW to admit they were here. Members on the forum and a few others started keeping our own records and collecting trailcam photos, it's pretty hard for WDFW to deny wolves now and even with only two trappers they have proven 8 packs now. Imagine if they had a dozen trappers like they should, we would have enough wolves confirmed to delist. We currently have enough wolf packs in Region 1 to delist the whole state.
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Re: Did fish and game release wolves?
« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2012, 12:15:27 PM »
For some of the past nay sayers, I would also add:

WDFW is conforming the wolf packs exactly where we said they are.  :yeah: :yeah: :yeah:

If WDFW would get a new BIO in the Okanogan we would suddenly have more wolves there too. I think it's fair to say that members on this forum know that a certain bio is slowing the confirmation of packs in the Okanogan.

I will definitely give credit when it's due, it seems that WDFW is finally working on getting some of these packs in Region 1 documented. They also wasted no time in writing the rancher a permit to kill any attacking wolves up in the wedge.  :tup:
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Re: Did fish and game release wolves?
« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2012, 12:21:40 PM »
Documentation! It is what allows all of us individuals to have a magnified effect on holding the WDFW accountable WHATEVER has happened. Even if they have not release the wolves they have done VERY little documnet them. :twocents:
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Re: Did fish and game release wolves?
« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2012, 01:04:26 PM »
thanks for your opions bearpaw and other guys

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Re: Did fish and game release wolves?
« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2012, 09:57:21 PM »
I agree with bear paw.  We need help from real sportsman not elected officials. My opinion

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Re: Did fish and game release wolves?
« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2012, 10:44:22 PM »
Yes I know for sure they have released packes in Stevens that where hybrid but also some pure bred in the teaneway

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Re: Did fish and game release wolves?
« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2012, 11:10:26 PM »
Pure breeds released in Teanaway?  My understanding was that they have migration records of them running up the N. cascades into canada and back.  And what is the story about the "white" van?

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Re: Did fish and game release wolves?
« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2012, 05:54:51 PM »
I don't have any proof, but I have had trail cams in a certain area in ferry county for 3 years and last year was the first time a wolf has been on cam.  Those wolves just happened to appear not long after a helicopter flew by late at night one september evening.  Coincidence??

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Re: Did fish and game release wolves?
« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2012, 06:14:07 PM »
Yes I know for sure they have released packes in Stevens that where hybrid but also some pure bred in the teaneway

Care to share how you know for sure that WDFW released wolves in the Teanaway? 
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