Did fish and game release wolves?

[MatthewHunter98]

I have heard something about a "wolf Hybrid" wich is a mix of wolf and huskie. There are also alot more packs of wolfs in the state of washington< but i personally think wdfw just dont want to anonse it! just sayin

[Devinshoe]

There was a couple years ago a friend of mine had some neighbors. That had some wolf hi-brids  that lived right next to him, The woman that owned them was really crazy!!! And by that i mean she was a nut! They could be possibly be coming from he house! She lives on westside valley right outside of colville!

[wraithen]

this smells funny. Funny like under a bridge demanding money for bridge usage.

[JLS]

I don't have any proof, but I have had trail cams in a certain area in ferry county for 3 years and last year was the first time a wolf has been on cam.  Those wolves just happened to appear not long after a helicopter flew by late at night one september evening.  Coincidence??

Let me guess, the helicopter was black?

[pianoman9701]

I have written statements from the WDFW, NPS, and the USFWS that none of them has ever released a wolf in WA. There is a public procedure which costs millions of dollars and includes selecting an appropriate wolf gene pool, segregating trapped wolves for medical testing and lengthy observation, public testimony and input, an environmental impact study, none of which any of the three departments has the money for.

As Bearpaw said, this doesn't mean that non-governmental groups haven't done it with wolves or wolf hybrids. Any solid evidence of this would be treated very harshly by the government. But, for any appointed member of our state or federal government to have done this on the sly would be immediate occupational suicide. We may have a bunch of wolf lovers managing our wildlife, but I don't think they're this stupid.

A disclaimer: I have been wrong before. Once I thought I was wrong about something, but I was wrong about that.

[Maverick]

Ive heard some if the wolves outside of Dayton were hybrids. Like stated there are more than enough wolves to delist but with all the animal lovers running fish and wildlife its easy to see why they take their sweet time.  Of course if we are ever allowed to hunt wolves here it'll be special permit with maybe one per unit. Anything to make more money....

[Knocker of rocks]

I have written statements from the WDFW, NPS, and the USFWS that none of them has ever released a wolf in WA. There is a public procedure which costs millions of dollars and includes selecting an appropriate wolf gene pool, segregating trapped wolves for medical testing and lengthy observation, public testimony and input, an environmental impact study, none of which any of the three departments has the money for.

As Bearpaw said, this doesn't mean that non-governmental groups haven't done it with wolves or wolf hybrids. Any solid evidence of this would be treated very harshly by the government. But, for any appointed member of our state or federal government to have done this on the sly would be immediate occupational suicide. We may have a bunch of wolf lovers managing our wildlife, but I don't think they're this stupid.

That makes complete sence

[bearpaw]

WDFW is getting better on addressing this wolf issue.

The biggest bottle neck I currently see is that there are only two WDFW wolf trappers. We need at least a dozen trappers out trapping wolves in order to get all these packs confirmed. I have only heard of one of the trappers catching any wolves. He didn't catch many last year but he is doing much better this year. I have not heard if the other trapper has caught any wolves yet or not, there is a learning curve to being able to outsmart coyotes/wolves and being able to actually catch them.

This state should have more than 2 wolf trappers, it's going to take 2 trappers forever to prove (confirm) wolves in all the GMU's that have them now, not to mention the new packs that will be formed in new GMU's each year.

[Maverick]

How can we push the state into hiring more trappers?

[WAcoyotehunter]

they need to use other resources to help them trap...i.e. tribes, and other entities.

[buckfvr]

they need to use other resources to help them trap...i.e. tribes, and other entities.

 

Imparticular, an entity which is not somehow obligated to reach conclusions based on WDFW agendas.

[MatthewHunter98]

pianoman gotta good point

[Special T]

I think what Pman said can be summed up with 2 words.... Plausible Deniability...

[cmiller85]

I have written statements from the WDFW, NPS, and the USFWS that none of them has ever released a wolf in WA. There is a public procedure which costs millions of dollars and includes selecting an appropriate wolf gene pool, segregating trapped wolves for medical testing and lengthy observation, public testimony and input, an environmental impact study, none of which any of the three departments has the money for.

As Bearpaw said, this doesn't mean that non-governmental groups haven't done it with wolves or wolf hybrids. Any solid evidence of this would be treated very harshly by the government. But, for any appointed member of our state or federal government to have done this on the sly would be immediate occupational suicide. We may have a bunch of wolf lovers managing our wildlife, but I don't think they're this stupid.

A disclaimer: I have been wrong before. Once I thought I was wrong about something, but I was wrong about that.

Although I highly doubt that wolves were planted, one thing that I'm pretty positive of is that if wolves were planted illegally by any one of these government agencies they aren't just going to come out and admit to it just because someone asked them in an email.

If they were transplanted, I'm sure Eric Holder is involved. We can call it "The Feasting Furriest."

[pianoman9701]

There are so many things about the wolf plan and wolves in the state that we DO know about, making up more is a futile exercise. We have plenty to go after now.

Planting animals without the necessary steps outlined in the Congressional recovery plan (1988 it think?) is a federal offense. Not only would they be canned immediately, they'd be charged with felonies. Why would a gubmint employee, working toward retirement with full benefits, throw all of that away to plant some wolves when they're coming in on their own just fine? It makes no sense.