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Re: Finally Wildlife Managers Kill Wolf In Stevens County
« Reply #30 on: August 08, 2012, 09:57:19 PM »
There is another thread on here wanting to know if someone thinks the WDFG Introduced wolves!
It Doesn't matter if they did or not! Simple they are here regardless, Now the question is how are they going to be dealt with.
Dale you are aware of the amount of loss the local ranchers have sustained in the wedge.
As you have made comment to the WDFG is doing Damage control now before this turns into a control issue for them.

You have had several reports from people who you may consider reliable.

I just base my observations on what I see.

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Re: Finally Wildlife Managers Kill Wolf In Stevens County
« Reply #31 on: August 08, 2012, 10:21:06 PM »
Ridgeratt... the only reason why its not important is because there is apparently no proof of there was then i would expect a huge lawsuit. Not enough people are taking thier cameras into the woods and every where else they go.  :twocents:
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Re: Finally Wildlife Managers Kill Wolf In Stevens County
« Reply #32 on: August 08, 2012, 10:36:22 PM »
There is another thread on here wanting to know if someone thinks the WDFG Introduced wolves!
It Doesn't matter if they did or not! Simple they are here regardless, Now the question is how are they going to be dealt with.
 I just base my observations on what I see.
 



Yes it does matter if they were planted or not. If it EVER comes out that the WDFW did bring these wolves in, it proves acountabilty. The state accelerated the population if they did bring them in. Then yes that would lead to law suites for damages accured to ranchers. Not only is all of this BS political, but it also boils down to good old fashioned money. EVERYTHING the state decides on is based on money. Plain and simple.
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Re: Finally Wildlife Managers Kill Wolf In Stevens County
« Reply #33 on: August 08, 2012, 10:53:16 PM »
There's no way the WDFW planted wolves. They simply couldn't do that, it's not possible. They'd have to tell the public, and first they'd have to get approval. They didn't do that or we'd know about it. And, I agree they base a lot of their decisions on money, so therefore, they wouldn't do anything to decrease deer and elk numbers in this state. Deer and elk tags is where the money is at, and they know it.


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Re: Finally Wildlife Managers Kill Wolf In Stevens County
« Reply #34 on: August 08, 2012, 11:05:29 PM »
Good point! But deep down my gut tells me there is more to this than just migration.    :dunno:
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Re: Finally Wildlife Managers Kill Wolf In Stevens County
« Reply #35 on: August 08, 2012, 11:32:22 PM »
It is unfortunate that our wildlife and livlihoods are basically considered worthless in comparison to the life of a wolf. I think WDFW saw pie in the sky with wolves, they advanced a preposterous wolf plan that takes little into account of deer, elk, moose, and endangered caribou populations in Washington, not to mention people's livlihoods. WDFW drank the wolf koolaid and fell hook, line, and sinker for the false biology that has been promoted by wolf loving biologists who have no interest in our deer, elk, moose, and caribou. If anything comes back to bite, I think it will be the loss of our last woodland caribou herd in the lower 48 states.

I don't think Caribou were adequately considered in the wolf plan.

There are biologists that echo the sentiment of many sportsmen, however WDFW chose the side of the wolf lovers as has every other agency. Simply look to Idaho and Montana to see what happens in the areas that wolves populate. Also note that Idaho cannot sell their deer and elk tags any longer and that many changes in wolf policy are taking place in IDFG as compared to wolf policy only 3 to 4 years ago.

Like ridgeratt, I am out there and I am making observations of what is going on. I fully expect to see the same evolution of the wolf issue in WA as we have seen in ID/MT.
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Re: Finally Wildlife Managers Kill Wolf In Stevens County
« Reply #36 on: August 09, 2012, 06:04:48 AM »
I know the WDFW planted turkeys up here from the Wilbur area to Ferry County without any public input. :chuckle: They did it about 5-6 years ago.
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Re: Finally Wildlife Managers Kill Wolf In Stevens County
« Reply #37 on: August 09, 2012, 07:32:04 AM »
Like others, I as well was a bit surprised to see the WDFW take lethal action less than a year into the wolf recovery and management plan they adopted.  Yes, members of this pack have been causing a ruckus up there for the better part of 5 years or more now, but prior to fairly recently there was a lot of federal red tape and legal hoops that the WDFW would have had to have jumped through if any action was to be taken.

To be honest, I fully expected them to sit back and wait a minimum of 3 years before even considering lethal action.  So I do give them credit on this.

I just hope it's an indication of how the WDFW intends to handle things moving forward and isn't a 1 time event meant to temporarily appease us while our hunting fees are being raised again  :tup:

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Re: Finally Wildlife Managers Kill Wolf In Stevens County
« Reply #38 on: August 09, 2012, 06:30:40 PM »
There's no way the WDFW planted wolves. They simply couldn't do that, it's not possible. They'd have to tell the public, and first they'd have to get approval. They didn't do that or we'd know about it. And, I agree they base a lot of their decisions on money, so therefore, they wouldn't do anything to decrease deer and elk numbers in this state. Deer and elk tags is where the money is at, and they know it.

I'm not implying that they personally planted the wolves but I also believe that they may have had knowledge that it could have been being done.

I guess the same could be said that "Fast and Furious" was only a car movie as well.

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Re: Finally Wildlife Managers Kill Wolf In Stevens County
« Reply #39 on: August 09, 2012, 08:24:24 PM »
Great comparison!  :tup:
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Re: Finally Wildlife Managers Kill Wolf In Stevens County
« Reply #40 on: August 09, 2012, 08:26:10 PM »
As the "KING" said;

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Re: Finally Wildlife Managers Kill Wolf In Stevens County
« Reply #41 on: August 09, 2012, 08:39:34 PM »
I know the WDFW planted turkeys up here from the Wilbur area to Ferry County without any public input. :chuckle: They did it about 5-6 years ago.
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Re: Finally Wildlife Managers Kill Wolf In Stevens County
« Reply #42 on: August 10, 2012, 02:16:53 PM »
There's no way the WDFW planted wolves. They simply couldn't do that, it's not possible. They'd have to tell the public, and first they'd have to get approval. They didn't do that or we'd know about it. And, I agree they base a lot of their decisions on money, so therefore, they wouldn't do anything to decrease deer and elk numbers in this state. Deer and elk tags is where the money is at, and they know it.

I'm not implying that they personally planted the wolves but I also believe that they may have had knowledge that it could have been being done.

I guess the same could be said that "Fast and Furious" was only a car movie as well.

Great point and comparison, no doubt anything is possble with agencies, that has been proven.

I think it's more likely that wolf groups may have planted wolves, if wolves were planted, and you may be right, WDFW may know.

It's common knowledge about the hybrids that were released in GMU 121 but WDFW has done nothing about it that I know of.
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Re: Finally Wildlife Managers Kill Wolf In Stevens County
« Reply #43 on: August 10, 2012, 02:19:30 PM »
Just kill 'em all then, they're all going to kill livestock eventually, especialy after all the deer, elk, and moose are gone.
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Re: Finally Wildlife Managers Kill Wolf In Stevens County
« Reply #44 on: August 10, 2012, 02:23:05 PM »
I know the WDFW planted turkeys up here from the Wilbur area to Ferry County without any public input. :chuckle: They did it about 5-6 years ago.
yEAH BUT THATS A GOOD THING ...Now invite me up and we can go kill some  :dunno: :chuckle:


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