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Do you support the removal of wolves that attack cattle in Washington?

Yes
184 (98.9%)
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Total Members Voted: 185

Voting closed: September 18, 2012, 01:15:23 PM

Author Topic: Wedge Pack: More cattle attacked in Stevens County (poll and letter)  (Read 187308 times)

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Re: Wedge Pack: More cattle attacked in Stevens County (poll and letter)
« Reply #315 on: September 17, 2012, 08:15:58 AM »
One of the sharpshooters was asked what type of scope, if it was a night scope, he said it was a remington scope!  :chuckle:


I wouldn't expect many wolves to be shot by that tool.

What? He sounds like a freakin' expert!
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Re: Wedge Pack: More cattle attacked in Stevens County (poll and letter)
« Reply #316 on: September 17, 2012, 08:17:12 AM »
Please Send Another Letter!

ON THE RADIO SEPT 17
McIrvins have had 15 "confirmed" cattle attacks by wolves in Stevens County the last few months, they say their total loss is likely about 40 head. These ranchers are losing at least $1000 with every attack and wolf groups have said there is no proof it's wolves doing the damage. But the Sherriff Dept and WDFW agents have confirmed 15 cattle as wolf attacks.

LETTERS TO GOVERNOR
Roughly 15,000 letters have been received by WDFW and Governor Gregoire asking that wolf management be stopped. Hunters and ranchers need to send letters in support of wolf removal.

PLEASE SEND A LETTER
I am urging everyone who supports responsible wolf management to take a few moments and send a quick email message in support of problem wolf removal.

Copy and paste this email list and your choice of messages below or make your own message and please do it now so you don't forget!

director@dfw.wa.gov
commission@dfw.wa.gov
commissioners@co.stevens.wa.us
Joel.Kretz@leg.wa.gov
Short.Shelly@leg.wa.gov
Morton.Bob@leg.wa.gov
Kevin.Ranker@leg.wa.gov
brian.blake@leg.wa.gov

Also please send your message to the governor here: http://www.governor.wa.gov/contact/ 

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Dear Governor Gregoire,
I fully support the Washington Department of Fish & Wildlife’s (WDFW) actions to remove problem wolves that are attacking and killing livestock in Northeast Washington.

The McIrvin family has suffered significant financial losses due to the 15 confirmed cattle attacks by these problem wolves. The McIrvins say they may be missing as many as 40 head of cattle, many dead cattle have not have been found yet. I urge you to please help these people.

I urge you to delist Eastern Washington so wolves can be managed.

Respectfully,
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Dear Governor Gregoire,
I wish to express my support the Washington Department of Fish & Wildlife’s (WDFW) actions to remove problem wolves “wedge pack” that are attacking and killing livestock in northeast Washington.

It’s the responsibility of WDFW to respond to wild animal complaints including wolf attacks on livestock. I urge you to delist Eastern Washington so wolves can be managed.

Thank You,
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Dear Governor Gregoire,
Please support the Washington Department of Fish & Wildlife’s (WDFW) actions to remove all the problem wolves from the “wedge pack” that are attacking and killing livestock in northeast Washington.

Wolf groups don't care what happens in Eastern Washington because it's not in their backyard. But it’s important for the WDFW to remove all wolves that attack livestock in Washington before they teach other wolves to do the same. These wolves will have significant impacts on ranching incomes and local economies. I urge you to delist Eastern Washington so wolves can be managed.

Thank You,
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Email
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Re: Wedge Pack: More cattle attacked in Stevens County (poll and letter)
« Reply #317 on: September 17, 2012, 08:21:24 AM »
If I remember right, I asked the sheriff how many cows/calves are McIrvins running up there ? He said 250, so if the wolves have already killed 15-40 calves, that's a big hit on someones livelyhood. The WDFW should get off their asses and stop playing politics and stop listening to the wolf lovers and kill them wolves, NOW !!!!
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Re: Wedge Pack: More cattle attacked in Stevens County (poll and letter)
« Reply #318 on: September 17, 2012, 08:31:18 AM »
It's just not Bill that is losing cattle in that area, there are several of his neighbors that have also lost a significant amount of calves and they are not as big of a operation as Bill's. Raising beef ,about 80% goes toward the cost of raising and 20% or so is any profit. When the wolves take away any profit margin the cattle ranchers are going to go broke. There is no way that the ranchers can document all the wolf kills as I believe that it has to be reported within 24 hrs? Also a pack of wolves can devour a calf within hours.
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Re: Wedge Pack: More cattle attacked in Stevens County (poll and letter)
« Reply #319 on: September 17, 2012, 08:35:31 AM »
Here is a new on on cam in the sherman pass area.

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Re: Wedge Pack: More cattle attacked in Stevens County (poll and letter)
« Reply #320 on: September 17, 2012, 08:41:42 AM »
Sending some emails out when I get back. Thanks for the templates. :tup:

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Re: Wedge Pack: More cattle attacked in Stevens County (poll and letter)
« Reply #321 on: September 17, 2012, 08:44:06 AM »
It's just not Bill that is losing cattle in that area, there are several of his neighbors that have also lost a significant amount of calves and they are not as big of a operation as Bill's. Raising beef ,about 80% goes toward the cost of raising and 20% or so is any profit. When the wolves take away any profit margin the cattle ranchers are going to go broke. There is no way that the ranchers can document all the wolf kills as I believe that it has to be reported within 24 hrs? Also a pack of wolves can devour a calf within hours.

There is only 1 neighbor that has had a small amount of trouble, it's all on McIrvins from what the sheriff told me yesterday. Doesn't matter anyhow, the wolves need to be shot.
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Re: Wedge Pack: More cattle attacked in Stevens County (poll and letter)
« Reply #322 on: September 17, 2012, 08:50:13 AM »
I can't believe that the McIrvins just don't take care of it themselves.  Maybe they need to take one for the team, just to get this out in the open.  Eventually, enough is enough.  I can't imagine them being prosecuted and if they were I think thing there would be an uprising of support.

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Re: Wedge Pack: More cattle attacked in Stevens County (poll and letter)
« Reply #323 on: September 17, 2012, 09:01:09 AM »
I can't believe that the McIrvins just don't take care of it themselves.  Maybe they need to take one for the team, just to get this out in the open.  Eventually, enough is enough.  I can't imagine them being prosecuted and if they were I think thing there would be an uprising of support.

They did a interview on the local radio a few weeks ago and said they could take care of it themself, but they can't afford the $10,000 to $40,000 it would cost them if they were caught. They are trying to do this by the law, but the law is failing them badly.  :twocents:


It's just not Bill that is losing cattle in that area, there are several of his neighbors that have also lost a significant amount of calves and they are not as big of a operation as Bill's. Raising beef ,about 80% goes toward the cost of raising and 20% or so is any profit. When the wolves take away any profit margin the cattle ranchers are going to go broke. There is no way that the ranchers can document all the wolf kills as I believe that it has to be reported within 24 hrs? Also a pack of wolves can devour a calf within hours.

There is only 1 neighbor that has had a small amount of trouble, it's all on McIrvins from what the sheriff told me yesterday. Doesn't matter anyhow, the wolves need to be shot.

I heard one neighbor has 7 cows so far that he has seen that are missing their calves. The problem is that you can't find all the cattle that get eaten, this is big thickly vegetated country, this isn't like the open country of Montana.

Something must be done and done soon. Stevens County may have to step up to the plate and remove themselves from state wildlife management. People are getting fed up with the pandering to wolf lovers who live smuggly in their high rise apartments in pugetropolis dreaming about wolves and butterflies playing together in the meadows.
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Re: Wedge Pack: More cattle attacked in Stevens County (poll and letter)
« Reply #324 on: September 17, 2012, 09:06:14 AM »
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I can't believe that the McIrvins just don't take care of it themselves.  Maybe they need to take one for the team, just to get this out in the open.  Eventually, enough is enough.  I can't imagine them being prosecuted and if they were I think thing there would be an uprising of support.

They did a interview on the local radio a few weeks ago and said they could take care of it themself, but they can't afford the $10,000 to $40,000 it would cost them if they were caught. They are trying to do this by the law, but the law is failing them badly.  :twocents:


It's just not Bill that is losing cattle in that area, there are several of his neighbors that have also lost a significant amount of calves and they are not as big of a operation as Bill's. Raising beef ,about 80% goes toward the cost of raising and 20% or so is any profit. When the wolves take away any profit margin the cattle ranchers are going to go broke. There is no way that the ranchers can document all the wolf kills as I believe that it has to be reported within 24 hrs? Also a pack of wolves can devour a calf within hours.

There is only 1 neighbor that has had a small amount of trouble, it's all on McIrvins from what the sheriff told me yesterday. Doesn't matter anyhow, the wolves need to be shot.

I heard one neighbor has 7 cows so far that he has seen that are missing their calves. The problem is that you can't find all the cattle that get eaten, this is big thickly vegetated country, this isn't like the open country of Montana.

Something must be done and done soon. Stevens County may have to step up to the plate and remove themselves from state wildlife management. People are getting fed up with the pandering to wolf lovers who live smuggly in their high rise apartments in pugetropolis dreaming about wolves and butterflies playing together in the meadows.

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Re: Wedge Pack: More cattle attacked in Stevens County (poll and letter)
« Reply #325 on: September 17, 2012, 09:07:24 AM »
Is the county removing itself an option that happened in ID?
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Re: Wedge Pack: More cattle attacked in Stevens County (poll and letter)
« Reply #326 on: September 17, 2012, 09:43:53 AM »
There has been a lot of talk in the past and I can see people in the area talking that way again if this wolf situation is not dealt with.

Right now all the focus is on cattle, what is happening to our moose, elk, and deer?
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Re: Wedge Pack: More cattle attacked in Stevens County (poll and letter)
« Reply #327 on: September 17, 2012, 10:12:55 AM »
Here is a new on on cam in the sherman pass area.

Would you post the location and photo in the wolf count topic, thanks?
http://66.79.167.110/~huntingw/smf/index.php/topic,79244.375.html
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Re: Wedge Pack: More cattle attacked in Stevens County (poll and letter)
« Reply #328 on: September 17, 2012, 10:31:30 AM »
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Re: Wedge Pack: More cattle attacked in Stevens County (poll and letter)
« Reply #329 on: September 17, 2012, 10:36:56 AM »
There has been a lot of talk in the past and I can see people in the area talking that way again if this wolf situation is not dealt with.

Right now all the focus is on cattle, what is happening to our moose, elk, and deer?

 


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