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Do you support the removal of wolves that attack cattle in Washington?

Yes
184 (98.9%)
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Total Members Voted: 185

Voting closed: September 18, 2012, 01:15:23 PM

Author Topic: Wedge Pack: More cattle attacked in Stevens County (poll and letter)  (Read 187042 times)

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Re: Wedge Pack: More cattle attacked in Stevens County (poll and letter)
« Reply #330 on: September 17, 2012, 10:38:17 AM »
and carbiou

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Re: Wedge Pack: More cattle attacked in Stevens County (poll and letter)
« Reply #331 on: September 17, 2012, 10:50:27 AM »
You are right, sorry I forgot the caribou, hopefully there are a few of them still out there, that one pack is right in their home range.
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Re: Wedge Pack: More cattle attacked in Stevens County (poll and letter)
« Reply #332 on: September 17, 2012, 11:02:10 AM »
I find it interesting that there are fewer carbiou in washington than wolves but yet the carbiou get little attention...

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Re: Wedge Pack: More cattle attacked in Stevens County (poll and letter)
« Reply #333 on: September 17, 2012, 11:10:57 AM »
A bunch of us have noticed this and have brought it to the attention of the DFW. They don't seem concerned about the woodland caribou at all. Maybe, they're wolf-proof. :bash: :bash:
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Re: Wedge Pack: More cattle attacked in Stevens County (poll and letter)
« Reply #334 on: September 17, 2012, 11:23:49 AM »
I wonder what all of the tree huggers think of caribou  :dunno:
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Re: Wedge Pack: More cattle attacked in Stevens County (poll and letter)
« Reply #335 on: September 17, 2012, 12:00:44 PM »
That's the problem with the wolf lovers. This isn't about loving wolves. This is about getting rid of hunting. Once the ungulate populations get too low, the state takes away the tags and the Defenders of Wildlife get their dream come true - the end of hunting. If the woodland caribou are all eaten as a result, well the end justifies the means. They should be called the Defenders of Some Wildlife.
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Re: Wedge Pack: More cattle attacked in Stevens County (poll and letter)
« Reply #336 on: September 17, 2012, 12:59:17 PM »
I picked up a copy of the September issue Northwest Sportsmans Magazine, in it Jeff Holmes interviews Steve Pozzanghera from WDFW.  To any that are interested in the wolf issue I would encourage you to get a copy or the online addition if you are a subscriber and read it.

I think Mr. Holmes did a good job disputing many of the assumptions that went into building the wolf plan, habitat models, prey base, livestock depredation models based on sheep ( we have little sheep grazing in WA)

the other thing that was disheartening was to hear how little the dept. knows about the population of elk,moose and even WT in the NE portion of the state?
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Re: Wedge Pack: More cattle attacked in Stevens County (poll and letter)
« Reply #337 on: September 17, 2012, 01:13:49 PM »
I picked up a copy of the September issue Northwest Sportsmans Magazine, in it Jeff Holmes interviews Steve Pozzanghera from WDFW.  To any that are interested in the wolf issue I would encourage you to get a copy or the online addition if you are a subscriber and read it.

I think Mr. Holmes did a good job disputing many of the assumptions that went into building the wolf plan, habitat models, prey base, livestock depredation models based on sheep ( we have little sheep grazing in WA)

the other thing that was disheartening was to hear how little the dept. knows about the population of elk,moose and even WT in the NE portion of the state?

And heaven forbid that they might ask people who live. hunt, fish, camp, and work in the NE portion of the state about the wildlife populations to build up the WDFW knowledge base!
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Re: Wedge Pack: More cattle attacked in Stevens County (poll and letter)
« Reply #338 on: September 17, 2012, 01:23:31 PM »
I picked up a copy of the September issue Northwest Sportsmans Magazine, in it Jeff Holmes interviews Steve Pozzanghera from WDFW.  To any that are interested in the wolf issue I would encourage you to get a copy or the online addition if you are a subscriber and read it.

I think Mr. Holmes did a good job disputing many of the assumptions that went into building the wolf plan, habitat models, prey base, livestock depredation models based on sheep ( we have little sheep grazing in WA)

the other thing that was disheartening was to hear how little the dept. knows about the population of elk,moose and even WT in the NE portion of the state?

I stopped at the Barstow store yesterday and was BSing with the store owner. He said they don't nearly see or have as many deer as they did a few years ago. Remember the wolf Dale posted from Barstow this year, no deer............hmmm !

And heaven forbid that they might ask people who live. hunt, fish, camp, and work in the NE portion of the state about the wildlife populations to build up the WDFW knowledge base!
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Re: Wedge Pack: More cattle attacked in Stevens County (poll and letter)
« Reply #339 on: September 17, 2012, 02:47:17 PM »
Talked to a guy I know in the DFW. He said a Bio working with the Wedge Pack came in and checked out a shotgun. Seems that he has been circled by wolves a couple of times. Says they are not afraid of humans. He says they are so fast and so many that you dont have time to use a rifle. Thus he wanted a shotgun. :yike:
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Re: Wedge Pack: More cattle attacked in Stevens County (poll and letter)
« Reply #340 on: September 17, 2012, 03:29:17 PM »
When I talked to Jay from the Colville office in May he said that they (biologist) we not allowed to carry fire arms, only pepper spray.  If they have changed the policy something significant must have changed.    :yike:
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Re: Wedge Pack: More cattle attacked in Stevens County (poll and letter)
« Reply #341 on: September 17, 2012, 03:50:21 PM »
My source talked directly to the Bio when the gun was checked out as I understand it.
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Re: Wedge Pack: More cattle attacked in Stevens County (poll and letter)
« Reply #342 on: September 17, 2012, 03:56:56 PM »
yah something has changed, they are starting to realize this is not a Disney movie  :bash: :bash:

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Re: Wedge Pack: More cattle attacked in Stevens County (poll and letter)
« Reply #343 on: September 17, 2012, 03:59:17 PM »
When I talked to Jeff from the Colville office in May he said that they (biologist) we not allowed to carry fire arms, only pepper spray.  If they have changed the policy something significant must have changed.    :yike:

WDFW actually had a policy stating their bio's couldn't carry a gun into the woods????

That can't be accurate ....

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Re: Wedge Pack: More cattle attacked in Stevens County (poll and letter)
« Reply #344 on: September 17, 2012, 04:04:19 PM »
I only know what I was told.  They were going up to check the grizzly's in the North East Wedge and I asked them what were they packing.  They said just pepper spray and I asked if they wanted my guild gun.  "no we are not allowed ....."  May be that was why they had the "sniper" with the Remington scope?  I really do not know what the deal is.  In Nevada the bio's could not pack guns until they pasted POST training and qualified. 

 


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