Wedge Pack: More cattle attacked in Stevens County (poll and letter)

[Ridgeratt]

Thank you!!
I was up last weekend and they were singing so I'm not sure why this hired gun can't find them.
I would guess the Big 10 gauge and perhaps a few other folks who know the area could put a dent in them fairly fast.
Please just give me a green light.


Or better yet just turn the McGirvin's and Graeber's loose on them! That way those folks can maybe get some evens!!!

[sebek556]

I am typing up a message to the dfw and commissioners right now volunteering to  assist they're marksman. I am a retired sniper, think I have a whole lot more qualifications then their guy, plus I will actually shoot them. Think everyone should send a email showing support of the removal of these wolves, and also offer to help. That way when they are claiming they are out of money for this or that, or that they don't have the man power to get it done we can call BS and tell them just how many volunteers that they had to do it for free. 

[villageidiot]

 I see where each ranch can only get 5,000 dollars.  No wonder McIrvin won't take the money. He's lost around 40 calves and could just about drain the whole states pot of money with just his losses alone.   Also noticed that Ware from WDFW wants all hunters to report all sightings, scat, etc.  I know for absolute posative because I have reported it myself that WDFW does not document all the sightings.  One remark from a Federal Bio. to me was "I will put that in my bigfoot sightings file".  I even took hair samples I found on a barbed wire fence where a wolf crawled under (snow conditions) and the bio never did a thing with it.  So why would I believe they actually care one bit.   They just want the public to think they actually care
  With all the hunters getting into this long range shooting I know they could find plenty of guys that can shoot a wolf at 1,200 yds.  Proof again they don't want to kill anything.  And yes they do want cattle off public land.  They have already started with using the sharp tailed grouse, spottled lepord frog, sea going fish, spotted owls, and the list goes on and on.  Nearly every cattleman has been restricted on using certain areas of his range because of some of these species.  Eventually, at this rate public grazing will be history and beef will only be afforded by the rich.  The uninformed masses will be happy but hungry.

[bearpaw]

Washington wolf attacks mount

http://www.capitalpress.com/lvstk/mw-Wedge-wolf-update-091912-art

Laurier, Wash., rancher Len McIrvin, pictured on his farm the morning of Aug. 23, brought in the herd of cattle behind them to protect them from wolf depredation on the range. McIrvin says wolves are attacking his cattle almost daily, and estimates the cost to his operation is nearing $100,000.

"The game department told me they're nearly 100 percent beef in the manure piles," Laurier, Wash., rancher Len McIrvin said. "They've taken all the game in this area and are just living on these cattle."

 

[Kola16]

  WHY!!!!!!! Why can't WDFW pull their head out of their @ss and get rid of these wolves. They obviously do not belong there, or anywhere in Washington!

[CedarPants]

Really good friend of mine grew up in Montana.  Moved here after college and now resides in Arizona.  We talk wolves frequently, as he has first hand experience of how things developed in Montana.  Watched it spread into Idaho and is now watching things unfold here.

Today he made an observation that really put things in perspective.  His words:  "Back home when I was growing up, it was the Feds shoving the wolves down our throats while the state fought them tooth and nail.  You guys here in eastern Washington ..... Feds delisted wolves but your own state shoving them down your throats.  Tragic really"

[silverdalesauer]

Found this article a few moments ago when I was searching the web for news about Washington state fires... turned out that wolves are just as on fire and out of control.

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2012/sep/19/landers-fires-blaze-does-wolf-issue/

[silverdalesauer]

Here's another article from the Spokane Review

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2012/sep/13/landers-wolves-make-taking-dogs-into-wild-risky/

[KFhunter]

I see where each ranch can only get 5,000 dollars.  No wonder McIrvin won't take the money. He's lost around 40 calves and could just about drain the whole states pot of money with just his losses alone.   Also noticed that Ware from WDFW wants all hunters to report all sightings, scat, etc.  I know for absolute posative because I have reported it myself that WDFW does not document all the sightings.  One remark from a Federal Bio. to me was "I will put that in my bigfoot sightings file".  I even took hair samples I found on a barbed wire fence where a wolf crawled under (snow conditions) and the bio never did a thing with it.  So why would I believe they actually care one bit.   They just want the public to think they actually care
  With all the hunters getting into this long range shooting I know they could find plenty of guys that can shoot a wolf at 1,200 yds.  Proof again they don't want to kill anything.  And yes they do want cattle off public land.  They have already started with using the sharp tailed grouse, spottled lepord frog, sea going fish, spotted owls, and the list goes on and on.  Nearly every cattleman has been restricted on using certain areas of his range because of some of these species.  Eventually, at this rate public grazing will be history and beef will only be afforded by the rich.  The uninformed masses will be happy but hungry.

50 yards would be a long shot in a lot of these areas, it's not like Montana or Idaho where you can shoot across the canyon at them.
Some areas yes you could get a long shot, but mostly not.

The best, and perhaps only way to hunt them is to bring them to you. 

[Ridgeratt]

I see where each ranch can only get 5,000 dollars.  No wonder McIrvin won't take the money. He's lost around 40 calves and could just about drain the whole states pot of money with just his losses alone.   Also noticed that Ware from WDFW wants all hunters to report all sightings, scat, etc.  I know for absolute posative because I have reported it myself that WDFW does not document all the sightings.  One remark from a Federal Bio. to me was "I will put that in my bigfoot sightings file".  I even took hair samples I found on a barbed wire fence where a wolf crawled under (snow conditions) and the bio never did a thing with it.  So why would I believe they actually care one bit.   They just want the public to think they actually care
  With all the hunters getting into this long range shooting I know they could find plenty of guys that can shoot a wolf at 1,200 yds.  Proof again they don't want to kill anything.  And yes they do want cattle off public land.  They have already started with using the sharp tailed grouse, spottled lepord frog, sea going fish, spotted owls, and the list goes on and on.  Nearly every cattleman has been restricted on using certain areas of his range because of some of these species.  Eventually, at this rate public grazing will be history and beef will only be afforded by the rich.  The uninformed masses will be happy but hungry.

50 yards would be a long shot in a lot of these areas, it's not like Montana or Idaho where you can shoot across the canyon at them.
Some areas yes you could get a long shot, but mostly not.

The best, and perhaps only way to hunt them is to bring them to you. 

And in some areas my turkey gun with a 20 inch is way too long.

Sounds like the Bacon Necklace just may work!   

[KFhunter]

ya, for sure

I was kicking around this idea

http://www.impactguns.com/kel-tec-ksg-12-ga-18in-barrel-shotgun-ksg.aspx

This bullpup pump-action shotgun has dual tube magazines that can hold a total of 14+1 rounds of ammunition. The KSG can only set to feed from the right or the left. Once the magazine is empty, the operator must use a manual switch to select the other magazine. This may appear at first glance to be disadvantage but for many people who live in areas where shotgun magazine capacity is limited by law, this feature, or lack of feature as the case may be, could allow them to legally possess the KSG.

You could put slugs in one side, and buckshot in the other tube and switch back and forth

[bearpaw]

It's time for the Commission to delist Northeast Washington. Turn a few actual hunters and the ranchers that want to kill these wolves loose, we will take care of the problem.

sebek556 good on you for volunteering, I would also volunteer. But, most likely they will only contract for shooting wolves, we may have to be willing accept pay. This way it is professional hunting, not sport hunting.

I would use my .257 Wtby Mag with a Leupold scope and a semiauto 12 guage with buckshot. I can make killer (pun intended) calf in distress calls. 

With my 75 gr hollow point boattails traveling at 4000 fps I can hold dead on a wolf from 0 to 350 yards. For a pack in close my 12 guage semiauto will make quick work. My experience at wing shooting combined with rifle shooting skills and extensive hunting experience are my resume to be a professional wolf killer.

Instead, they hire guys who think they have a "Remington" scope. 

[bearpaw]

A recording of a lost hound dog played at midnight on a moonlight night in the middle of the problem area would also be absolutely killer.

     Problem solved....

[Ridgeratt]

I might have a rifle laying around with a ted williams scope on it. Does that mean I can play?

And maybe a few secret's up my sleeve!

[sebek556]

I would accept pay, or pelt for payment if they must pay me