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Barrel porting
« on: August 17, 2012, 10:21:29 AM »
How much would a gunsmith charge to port the barrel on my .308?  I want to lessen the recoil for one of my sons.

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Re: Barrel porting
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2012, 10:26:48 AM »
How about threaded for a comp and then later a silencer.  :)
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Re: Barrel porting
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2012, 10:27:01 AM »
 :) about $150- 350 depending on brake.
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Re: Barrel porting
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2012, 10:28:35 AM »
How much would a gunsmith charge to port the barrel on my .308?  I want to lessen the recoil for one of my sons.

I don't think porting will lessen the recoil.  The chunk of lead will accelerate from 0 to 2800fps before it reaches the ports.  Only real way to lessen the recoil is to go to a lighter bullet.  :twocents:
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Re: Barrel porting
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2012, 10:32:50 AM »
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I don't think porting will lessen the recoil.  The chunk of lead will accelerate from 0 to 2800fps before it reaches the ports.  Only real way to lessen the recoil is to go to a lighter bullet. 

Completely false. That's the main point of adding a muzzle brake is reduced recoil.

I agree with jaymark. Have your barrel threaded for a brake instead of barrel porting. Lots of guys on here have em and can give you a better idea of price.

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Re: Barrel porting
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2012, 10:35:36 AM »
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I don't think porting will lessen the recoil.  The chunk of lead will accelerate from 0 to 2800fps before it reaches the ports.  Only real way to lessen the recoil is to go to a lighter bullet. 

Completely false. That's the main point of adding a muzzle brake is reduced recoil.

I agree with jaymark. Have your barrel threaded for a brake instead of barrel porting. Lots of guys on here have em and can give you a better idea of price.

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Muzzle break will be the cost of the brake, and about 100.00 to thread your barrel and install it.... most of the 100.00 is set up time for the lathe, because that is what takes all the time..
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Re: Barrel porting
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2012, 10:43:19 AM »
a couple hundred bucks.. Well worth it! I have a break on my 300 ultra mag and shoot 210 grain bullets and it kicks like a 308... So a 308 with like 168 grain bullets should kick like a 22-250..

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Re: Barrel porting
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2012, 11:13:13 AM »
a couple hundred bucks.. Well worth it! I have a break on my 300 ultra mag and shoot 210 grain bullets and it kicks like a 308... So a 308 with like 168 grain bullets should kick like a 22-250..

Exactly what I want.

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Re: Barrel porting
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2012, 11:22:31 AM »
a couple hundred bucks.. Well worth it! I have a break on my 300 ultra mag and shoot 210 grain bullets and it kicks like a 308... So a 308 with like 168 grain bullets should kick like a 22-250..

Exactly what I want.

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Re: Barrel porting
« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2012, 11:27:08 AM »
It's a Savage .308 but most of the styles I'm seeing are for an AR.  Will these work?  Anyone have any recommendations?  $50 or less would be ideal.


Also have a Pachmyr pad on it already

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Re: Barrel porting
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2012, 12:15:21 PM »
It's a Savage .308 but most of the styles I'm seeing are for an AR.  Will these work?  Anyone have any recommendations?  $50 or less would be ideal.


Also have a Pachmyr pad on it already

I only addressed the porting issue.  Yes, a muzzle break will decrease recoil, but you will have to thread your barrel for one.  The AR-10 style of break will work, but the .308 threads are 5/8", and the breaks for .223 AR-15 barrels are 1/2" thread.  If you have someone thread your barrel, make sure the lathe indexes to the BORE, and not the outside of the barrel.  They are not the same!
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Re: Barrel porting
« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2012, 12:56:53 PM »
You could try
Federal Fusion™ .308 Win. 170 Gr. Low Recoil Ammo
before you put out the money for a Break.
Keep in mind a Break will radically increase the loudness of the shot as well as reduce the recoil.

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/federal-fusion-308-win-170-gr-low-recoil-ammo-20-rds.aspx?a=286527&bi=141567
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Re: Barrel porting
« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2012, 01:00:06 PM »
You could try
Federal Fusion™ .308 Win. 170 Gr. Low Recoil Ammo
before you put out the money for a Break.
Keep in mind a Break will radically increase the loudness of the shot as well as reduce the recoil.

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/federal-fusion-308-win-170-gr-low-recoil-ammo-20-rds.aspx?a=286527&bi=141567

Tried the fusions and the remmington reduced recoil rounds and the gun hates both of them.  Won't shoot groups at all and I won't buy anymore.

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Re: Barrel porting
« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2012, 01:35:36 PM »
You could try
Federal Fusion™ .308 Win. 170 Gr. Low Recoil Ammo
before you put out the money for a Break.
Keep in mind a Break will radically increase the loudness of the shot as well as reduce the recoil.

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/federal-fusion-308-win-170-gr-low-recoil-ammo-20-rds.aspx?a=286527&bi=141567

Tried the fusions and the remmington reduced recoil rounds and the gun hates both of them.  Won't shoot groups at all and I won't buy anymore.

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Re: Barrel porting
« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2012, 01:37:22 PM »
Good suggestion though.  I wish it would eat those like it does these accubonds, it would definatly be the way I'd go

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Re: Barrel porting
« Reply #15 on: August 17, 2012, 05:43:56 PM »
 :)in my opinion 50$ will buy nothing. Pick a good break and spend the 100 to get it put on, threaded.
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Re: Barrel porting
« Reply #16 on: August 17, 2012, 06:01:10 PM »
Just take it to the smith of your choice, tell him what brake you want on it. When he calls, go pick it up. Done deal, fairly simple process.

Did I mention Vais Arms Muzzle brakes? :tup: :tup: :tup:

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Re: Barrel porting
« Reply #17 on: August 17, 2012, 09:33:18 PM »
Remington reduced were lousy in my daughters 7-08.  Roll your own with H-4895, they have reduced load data on their website.  Good Luck
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Re: Barrel porting
« Reply #18 on: August 17, 2012, 10:36:09 PM »
Screw reduced! Work it up 2+ grains over book and brake it! :whoo:

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Re: Barrel porting
« Reply #19 on: August 17, 2012, 10:39:04 PM »
If you decide to have a brake installed, and you plan to hunt with this rifle, get a side discharge brake. A brake that has ports at  360 degrees, while great for shooting off a bench,  will throw up grass, dirt, leaves etc.  in most hunting situations. A brake with side ports only are more hunter friendly.
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Re: Barrel porting
« Reply #20 on: August 17, 2012, 11:26:20 PM »
Both brakes will work great, I prefer the Vais Arms style brake for a hunting rifle or a non large magnums. I have a assortment of both. I prefer the "Muscle Brake" Side discharge by Center Shot Rifles for .338 bore diameter or bigger, they reduce recoil in the bigger magnum better than the Vais. You can also opt for a Harrels Brake in the rough, they only run about 30.00 bucks and your smith can finish it out when he installs it, I have had a Harrells Brake installed on a .375 Ultra and it worked well.

This is a 4 port" Muscle Brake " by Center Shot Rifle, it is a excellent brake. You can order the brake through Jim at Center Shot and have your smith install it. They also do the same brake in the round.

http://www.centershotrifles.com/products/muzzle_brakes.php

This brake bellow has a extra port cut in the top and a tension screw done by Benchmark. I have the same brake on my .338 Ultra Magnum, less the extra port and the set screw.

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Re: Barrel porting
« Reply #21 on: August 18, 2012, 02:27:19 AM »
How much would a gunsmith charge to port the barrel on my .308?  I want to lessen the recoil for one of my sons.


Just my .02) Try a limb saver recoil pad first, I put one on my 300WM after seeing a few youtube vids and it made all the difference in the world and dont need to spend the coin on a brake.

They absorb the snap real well, I think I paid $35.

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Re: Barrel porting
« Reply #22 on: August 18, 2012, 08:58:52 AM »
How much would a gunsmith charge to port the barrel on my .308?  I want to lessen the recoil for one of my sons.


Just my .02) Try a limb saver recoil pad first, I put one on my 300WM after seeing a few youtube vids and it made all the difference in the world and dont need to spend the coin on a brake.

They absorb the snap real well, I think I paid $35.

I have a Pachmyr pad already.

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Re: Barrel porting
« Reply #23 on: August 18, 2012, 08:59:11 AM »
Just a question, why not porting the barrel? 

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Re: Barrel porting
« Reply #24 on: August 18, 2012, 09:19:49 AM »
 :)      read this!!

http://www.chuckhawks.com/muzzle_brakes.htm

Magnaport charges about 150 but you must ship the gun to them to be ported they also sell brakes
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Re: Barrel porting
« Reply #25 on: August 18, 2012, 09:20:11 AM »
Porting and muzzle brakes are completely different creatures. Muzzle brakes reduce recoil which in turn reduces muzzle jump/flip. Porting slightly reduces recoil but it's main purpose is to reduce muzzle jump/flip.

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« Reply #26 on: August 18, 2012, 09:26:17 AM »
:)      read this!!

http://www.chuckhawks.com/muzzle_brakes.htm

Magnaport charges about 150 but you must ship the gun to them to be ported they also sell brakes
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Re: Barrel porting
« Reply #27 on: August 18, 2012, 10:26:20 AM »
Put a slipon limbsaver pad on over the regular pad will drastically reduce recoil,while hunting i don't notice recoil or noise. shooting off bench is where you will get most recoil.off hand at a animal kid may never notice recoil.

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Re: Barrel porting
« Reply #28 on: August 18, 2012, 10:39:33 AM »
Put a slipon limbsaver pad on over the regular pad will drastically reduce recoil,while hunting i don't notice recoil or noise. shooting off bench is where you will get most recoil.off hand at a animal kid may never notice recoil.

Had thought about that but was kind of concerned about length of pull for a kid being an issue.  May look into it anyway

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Re: Barrel porting
« Reply #29 on: August 18, 2012, 11:01:08 AM »
Put a slipon limbsaver pad on over the regular pad will drastically reduce recoil,while hunting i don't notice recoil or noise. shooting off bench is where you will get most recoil.off hand at a animal kid may never notice recoil.

Had thought about that but was kind of concerned about length of pull for a kid being an issue.  May look into it anyway

if you test the length of pull on the kid.. make surehe is wearing his hunting clothing,,   makes a big difference especially in a kid....
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Re: Barrel porting
« Reply #30 on: August 18, 2012, 11:01:33 AM »
When I get the money I will be getting one on my 300 win mag. I have a limbsaver pad on it and it did make a difference. I'm reloading and am wanting to be able to get more range time in

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Re: Barrel porting
« Reply #31 on: August 18, 2012, 11:08:49 AM »
wat about on a muzzeloader? or would it be a waiste of time??

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Re: Barrel porting
« Reply #32 on: August 18, 2012, 11:15:11 AM »
Well, thanks to a kind person, I now have a smaller caliber rifle for my 8 year old to use while my 10 year old can use the .308.  He's never had an issue with it, just the 8 year old.  This thread gives me a lot of good info for the future though.  Thanks a lot guys

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Re: Barrel porting
« Reply #33 on: August 18, 2012, 11:16:38 AM »
wat about on a muzzeloader? or would it be a waiste of time??

I bet it would help but it would spread the smoke more and be a pain to clean. I am honelstly guessing though

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Re: Barrel porting
« Reply #34 on: August 18, 2012, 11:38:46 AM »
Some smoke poles come with porting from the factory now :tup: Not fully ported like the rifles you see pictured. If they were like that it would make it hard to get the loose powder down the barrel :chuckle:
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