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Re: "Proposed License Fees for Wyoming"
« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2012, 01:52:21 PM »
I didn't see a wolf tag?  :o I thought that they wer going for $350??? But Then again in the SE portion just a reg hunting Lic will work!  :tup:
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Re: "Proposed License Fees for Wyoming"
« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2012, 02:15:32 PM »
I didn't see a wolf tag?  :o I thought that they wer going for $350??? But Then again in the SE portion just a reg hunting Lic will work!  :tup:
Idaho wolf tags are around 35 bucks. No way in hell I would pay 350 for a tag, I hope these numbers are not happening.
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Re: "Proposed License Fees for Wyoming"
« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2012, 02:43:42 PM »
I kinda thought that WY ould sell cheep wolf tags like ID, BUT 3/4 of the state you can shoot as many as you want with a general hunting Lic... Its only around the park that they charge the tag fee...

I wonder how heavily that rule is enforced?
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« Reply #19 on: September 11, 2012, 07:11:48 AM »
660 for a special antelope tag are you kidding me?  It's too bad how expensive hunting is getting.

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Re: "Proposed License Fees for Wyoming" Udated link
« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2012, 09:09:30 AM »
With 12 moose points, I have way too much invested in waiting time to just up and walk away.  But that up charge of another $350 is going to hurt since I'm on the cusp of being drawn. 
On the flip side, that up-charge might just put me in the winners bracket in 2013.   :yike:

When I started the moose venture, the cost of the non-res tag was $1010. 

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Re: "Proposed License Fees for Wyoming"
« Reply #21 on: September 11, 2012, 10:10:39 AM »
The states want the max they can get financially and still sell all of there licenses.  For instance if they have 5000 out of state deer tags and have 10,000 people putting in for them at $300 say, they want to know how much they can raise the tag and have 5500 people putting in for the 5000 tags.  They know that as they raise the tag price, people will start bailing on buying them.  But they dont care as long as they sell them all.  This is what happened in Montana.  They had twice as many people putting in for the amount of tags they had and decided to raise the price up to see if they could get the ratio to be close to equal in applicants and tag numbers.  montana got a little bit too greedy and raised the tag cost up and above the amount they should have and now cant sell all of there licenses.  People are laughing at them but they are still making out like bandits.  This is due to the higher costs they get for the ones they do sell.  if they have 1500 left out of the 140000 they sell they still are doing a lot better because the 12500 people that did buy tags bought them at close to twice as much as they were selling before they raised the price.  They figure in the future when the economy gets better the other 1500 will sell.

If you were selling your truck and you asked $1000 for it and you had 20 people call you to buy it, wouldnt you prefer to sell your truck for $2000 and have three people call and want to buy it.  Even better you could sell it for $2500 and have just one person want to buy it.  This is the principle they are practicing.  Not fun for the out of state hunter but good and big business for the states of Montana, Idaho, and Wyoming with hardly any people living there and limited resources due to low population and revenue.

Montana, Idaho and Wyoming all have left over tags that you can buy today.  Idaho has completely screwed themselves.  They use to sell out of all there tags in a week.  Now there lucky to sell any tags.  Montana increased there prices a couple years ago and guess what they still have a ton of tags for sale today.  And right now in wyoming they still have tags avaiable at the price there at right now.

How about instead of these government agencies spending more money than they have, how about they do what the rest of us do and CUT back on there spending.  Why is that so hard to do?  I have very little doubt that the dumbest people in this country work for the government.  And I don't care if that offends some of you, so don't send me any messages.
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Re: "Proposed License Fees for Wyoming" Udated link
« Reply #22 on: September 14, 2012, 06:53:02 PM »
That Blows big time! I was planning on going back to Wyoming next year.. looks like I better start saving the pocket change now.
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Re: "Proposed License Fees for Wyoming" Udated link
« Reply #23 on: September 14, 2012, 07:27:48 PM »
I understand capitalism and how they need to make money, but if they can't even sell out now, why increase the prices and have fewer sold tags? I get they may make a little bit more money...but is that the answer?
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Re: "Proposed License Fees for Wyoming" Udated link
« Reply #24 on: September 20, 2012, 02:16:20 PM »
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How about instead of these government agencies spending more money than they have, how about they do what the rest of us do and CUT back on there spending.  Why is that so hard to do?
One thing you have to understand is that the Wyoming Game and Fish does not receive money from the Wyoming Legislature, thus the Game and fish is taxed with generating their own income to sustain them. "And so the department most responsible for managing wildlife and hunting needs to raise between $8 million and $10 million without having the luxury of a stream of state taxpayer money."http://trib.com/opinion/will-wyoming-be-priced-out-of-a-way-of-life/article_258910a6-681c-5978-8dde-00eb50b5ee4b.html).
Another problem that they face is that they must also manage a lot of money intensive species such as the black footed ferret, brown bears, and many non-game fish and aquatic species to name a few. The problem with this is that they must manage those species as per the federal government, but they don't make any money from these conservation projects from licenses and fees.
The article below explains all of the options that the WY G&F has come up with to reduce the costs to the sportsmen.
http://wgfd.wyo.gov/web2011/news-1000952.aspx

Furthermore, I think that you should take a look at your own state's out of state license fees. Though they generally are not more than states like WY, MT, and ID they are still high and out price many people. For instance I just forked over more than $180.00 to hunt birds here this season, in comparison I only pay $115.00 for an out of state license to hunt birds in South Dakota where the populations are tens of times stronger! Now tell me that is not RAPE!!!

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Re: "Proposed License Fees for Wyoming" Udated link
« Reply #25 on: September 20, 2012, 03:07:36 PM »
It was stated that IF the changes happen it would be to the 13'/14' season not 12'/13' season so next year sould be the same. :dunno:

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Re: "Proposed License Fees for Wyoming" Udated link
« Reply #26 on: September 20, 2012, 04:14:40 PM »
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I dont care how wy gets its money. But you don't have to be a genius to figure out that you shouldn't spend more money than you have.

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Re: "Proposed License Fees for Wyoming" Udated link
« Reply #27 on: September 20, 2012, 04:35:02 PM »
 
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I dont care how wy gets its money. But you don't have to be a genius to figure out that you shouldn't spend more money than you have.

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Re: "Proposed License Fees for Wyoming" Udated link
« Reply #28 on: September 20, 2012, 05:20:03 PM »
Bigshooter,
Obviously you do care how WY gets its money because you are complaining that they are proposing raising license fees. I agree with you that it is unfortunate that they are raising the prices and that it may price out a lot of people from having the wonderful opportunity of hunting there. However, I feel that the price increases are a must to continue to create the world class hunting and fishing that the state is known for.

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Re: "Proposed License Fees for Wyoming" Udated link
« Reply #29 on: September 25, 2012, 01:30:45 AM »
Bigshooter,
Obviously you do care how WY gets its money because you are complaining that they are proposing raising license fees. I agree with you that it is unfortunate that they are raising the prices and that it may price out a lot of people from having the wonderful opportunity of hunting there. However, I feel that the price increases are a must to continue to create the world class hunting and fishing that the state is known for.

I don't care that WY doesn't get any money from tax dollars.  WY 4 years ago did a price increase.  What happened to all of that revenue?  Now just 4 years later they are claiming that they need $8-10 million more in revenue to continue running without going in the red.  If these increases do happen WY will have cut there own throat.  With the couple of bad winters and now a bad drought the deer numbers in Western WY are very low, maybe at an all time low from some of the stuff I have read.  Look what high prices and lack of deer have down to ID.  Or what the high prices have down to MT.  It's a spending issue, not a revenue issue.  Stop spending more money than you have.
« Last Edit: September 25, 2012, 01:38:10 AM by Bigshooter »
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