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Offline Wildsau

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Re: Lost bears...
« Reply #60 on: September 11, 2012, 08:02:23 AM »
I have, still, not seen what was used to shoot the bears.  If the worng head was used, the wound may have closed up; it happens with bullets too.

I agree, 9 hours is a wee bit short for a life.  If you shoot it, know you hit it, and know you hit vitals, two days sounds better.  Get premission to use a dog, if nothing else works.  I am sure the Gamies will allow this, rather than have a wounded bear out there.  The bear will find a place to hide and they are real good at doing just that.  KEEP LOOKING!!!

Some of the largest bear, ever taken, were with a bow.  If the shot is placed correctly, and the corect equipment is being used, the animal will go down.  A bear will not lay down as fast as a deer, so one has to used a broadhed that will convince him to do so sooner.  Giving up on bear hunting, with a bow, becasue you made the same error twice is not the bow's fault.  Like I said, earlier, get better heads and spend more time at the range.  The Bow-hunters, on this site, will be most happy to tell you which heads are best to use.  My choice is Slick Tricks;  $27.00 for three, and they make a 1 1/8" hole on both sides.  Hard to miss a trail with that.  Granted there are others, but you have to ask the question to get the answer.  Do your research and, then, make your decision.

Most of all, don't be afraid to ask questions.  These hunters here may do a lot of razzing, but if you ask them, they will help.  "The only dumb question, is the one not asked."

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Re: Lost bears...
« Reply #61 on: September 11, 2012, 08:14:57 AM »
After reading a lot of the comments I am torn. Yes he is a young man and needs support from hunter. I agree with a lot of Bob's comments.

I think what got me on the first post was the casual way it was stated. Almost flippant. Of course I am making my own assumptions based on a few lines posted on a forum but it seemed like no big deal and that is kind of what soured me. Now, I assume that since this person has been successfull in the past he takes this seriously and didn't mean it that way. Maybe others took it that way and that is why all the negative comments, including my own.

So, sorry to the young man who lost the bears. I would suggest being more cautious how you word things becuase the forum can be a harsh place if you project an indifferent opionion about something like lost game. Many hunters have killed plenty of bears with a bow and will continue to do so.

Keep your head up, don't poke any more holes in bears this year, and keep at it.

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Re: Lost bears...
« Reply #62 on: September 11, 2012, 08:37:36 AM »
After reading a lot of the comments I am torn. Yes he is a young man and needs support from hunter. I agree with a lot of Bob's comments.

I think what got me on the first post was the casual way it was stated. Almost flippant. Of course I am making my own assumptions based on a few lines posted on a forum but it seemed like no big deal and that is kind of what soured me. Now, I assume that since this person has been successfull in the past he takes this seriously and didn't mean it that way. Maybe others took it that way and that is why all the negative comments, including my own.

So, sorry to the young man who lost the bears. I would suggest being more cautious how you word things becuase the forum can be a harsh place if you project an indifferent opionion about something like lost game. Many hunters have killed plenty of bears with a bow and will continue to do so.

Keep your head up, don't poke any more holes in bears this year, and keep at it.
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Re: Lost bears...
« Reply #63 on: September 11, 2012, 08:48:12 AM »
After reading a lot of the comments I am torn. Yes he is a young man and needs support from hunter. I agree with a lot of Bob's comments.

I think what got me on the first post was the casual way it was stated. Almost flippant. Of course I am making my own assumptions based on a few lines posted on a forum but it seemed like no big deal and that is kind of what soured me. Now, I assume that since this person has been successfull in the past he takes this seriously and didn't mean it that way. Maybe others took it that way and that is why all the negative comments, including my own.

So, sorry to the young man who lost the bears. I would suggest being more cautious how you word things becuase the forum can be a harsh place if you project an indifferent opionion about something like lost game. Many hunters have killed plenty of bears with a bow and will continue to do so.

Keep your head up, don't poke any more holes in bears this year, and keep at it.

 :yeah:  That was my initial thought as well.  The OP made it sound a little like he wasn't very respectful.  If he had written that he looked for the bear for 9 hrs he might have gotten a little more slack.  The OP sounded like he was sitting in a treestand and shot a bear that didn't drop and then went down the road and shot another one right after it or something.
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Re: Lost bears...
« Reply #64 on: September 11, 2012, 08:53:24 AM »
Its the "I deserve it," attitude of the younger generation. I didn't get the first one but I DESERVE A BEAR, so I am going to shoot a second one. A selfish attitude and nature instead of a giving respectful one. I may be wrong but it sure looks that way to me.

Having that said....I do commend the guy for looking for 9 hours and I hope he takes this criticism to heart knowing that we are not trying to bash him and drive him away. I think we all just want him to understand that what happened isn't right. None of us would be any better in our own actions if we didn't also forgive and forget as we all should do.

So happy hunting and if both bears did actually get recovered like he said, then it all worked out right in the end.
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Re: Lost bears...
« Reply #65 on: September 11, 2012, 08:56:37 AM »
Its the "I deserve it," attitude of the younger generation. I didn't get the first one but I DESERVE A BEAR, so I am going to shoot a second one. A selfish attitude and nature instead of a giving respectful one. I may be wrong but it sure looks that way to me.
I dont believe that it is just the younger generation with this tude. 

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Re: Lost bears...
« Reply #66 on: September 11, 2012, 08:57:25 AM »
Note to self, get approval from site members before posting so it can be edited and slammed in private
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Re: Lost bears...
« Reply #67 on: September 11, 2012, 09:04:48 AM »
Why don't some of you adults here give this 18 year old hunter a break. I am sure he has learned a whole lot from this, from the brow bashing that he has taken so far. Do we really have to keep pounding on him?

He is 18.

He screwed up.

He can read, he can read how many are dissatisfied with his choices.

Let him chalk it up to experience and learn from the mistake.

I couldnt agree more.

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Re: Lost bears...
« Reply #68 on: September 11, 2012, 09:09:02 AM »
Why don't some of you adults here give this 18 year old hunter a break. I am sure he has learned a whole lot from this, from the brow bashing that he has taken so far. Do we really have to keep pounding on him?

He is 18.

He screwed up.

He can read, he can read how many are dissatisfied with his choices.

Let him chalk it up to experience and learn from the mistake.

I couldnt agree more.
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Re: Lost bears...
« Reply #69 on: September 11, 2012, 09:32:33 AM »
Sounds like a rookie mistake.

Austin - you had an experienced hunter offer to help you find it.  Maybe link up with him and go search for that bear for a few more hours? 

Another thing - Try to link up with some much more experienced hunters next season.  Most people are willing to sacrifice time in August to go take someone on a bear hunt and help them out.  That will help you gain the confidence and competence you're looking for.

Don't give up on finding your bear.  Find it, skin it, and get a rug made.  It'll be a great reminder for you.

This forum could be a great asset.  Most of the guys on here are willing to help.  Ask them for help!

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Re: Lost bears...
« Reply #70 on: September 11, 2012, 09:48:38 AM »
Note to self: If I ever wound an animal. Don't post it on Hunt-Wa

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Re: Lost bears...
« Reply #71 on: September 11, 2012, 09:49:30 AM »
Note to self: If I ever wound an animal. Don't post it on Hunt-Wa

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Re: Lost bears...
« Reply #72 on: September 11, 2012, 11:50:37 AM »
Sorry, but if I "know" for a fact that I hit an animal with any weapon I would search until I dropped like the gentleman that looked for his deer. If I absolutely exhausted all options I would notch the tag and spend the next year researching and practicing so it didn't happen again! We go in to these animals homes, we track them, stalk them, shoot at them and kill them, we owe these animals every amount of respect we can muster or we need not be in the woods in the first place! Rookie or not, young or old, 9 hours of searching is paethetic! Then you go right out and repeat the process????

I hope this thread is a heaping helping of humble pie for this young hunter because that is about all you can hope for at this point. :bash:

I'm sorry, but these animals do not exist for our amusement, we owe them a great great deal of respect and 9 friggin hours doesn't cut it! You should have tracked down that other hunter somehow, by any means you could think of and asked politely if the bear had more than one injury before assuming that's the one he tagged? OR you should still be looking for bear #1 and there should not have been a bear #2, not yet at least....I'm sorry, but man.... >:(
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Re: Lost bears...
« Reply #73 on: September 11, 2012, 04:58:44 PM »
You ethics nazi's sure get out of hand pretty quick, I'm with quadrafire.

I don't see how this is going to help HW grow, people scared to post up kills or dissappointments.   I'd rather people learn from their mistakes and get some decent guidance from HW then be subjected to a public flogging or crucified.

I think if some people closeby volunteered (insisted) to help find those two bears he'd have gotten the point, but it's easier to sit on your asses and type crap on the net isn't it?

I sure as hell won't be posting my critters on here, I think a lot of others refrain from doing so as well.

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Re: Lost bears...
« Reply #74 on: September 11, 2012, 05:06:56 PM »
You ethics nazi's sure get out of hand pretty quick, I'm with quadrafire.

I don't see how this is going to help HW grow, people scared to post up kills or dissappointments.   I'd rather people learn from their mistakes and get some decent guidance from HW then be subjected to a public flogging or crucified.

I think if some people closeby volunteered (insisted) to help find those two bears he'd have gotten the point, but it's easier to sit on your asses and type crap on the net isn't it?

I sure as hell won't be posting my critters on here, I think a lot of others refrain from doing so as well.

I did volunteer to help but he never came back online after asking for help from someone with a dog....I knew we couldn't use a dog but I gladly would have gone and searched...hell if he thinks there is a wounded bear out there now I have a damn tag I would go and burn my tag to put the animal down....hate to think of waste or an animal suffering needlessly....so there were offers and it sounds like he discovered some help from other strangers, common around here actually....

if he is still reading and thinks there is a chance that one of the bears may still be walking around all he has to do is holler.....

 


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