Lost bears...

[Axle]

Maybe he's using Wasp broadheads?

BH45 and I would think the same thing......

[ICEMAN]

Why don't some of you adults here give this 18 year old hunter a break. I am sure he has learned a whole lot from this, from the brow bashing that he has taken so far. Do we really have to keep pounding on him?

He is 18.

He screwed up.

He can read, he can read how many are dissatisfied with his choices.

Let him chalk it up to experience and learn from the mistake.

[Curly]

Why don't some of you adults here give this 18 year old hunter a break. I am sure he has learned a whole lot from this, from the brow bashing that he has taken so far. Do we really have to keep pounding on him?

He is 18.

He screwed up.

He can read, he can read how many are dissatisfied with his choices.

Let him chalk it up to experience and learn from the mistake.

 

[mfswallace]

did you read his explanation 

I hope he has learned from this but when one uses excuses to try and explain poor decisions(plural) it's hard to know.

I wouldn't want him to stop hunting bear with a bow just because of this thread as it looks like he can kill deer with good shots but take some steps to insure success before he shoots another for sure,  maybe study the chest cavity of bears which is very different than deer or learn some tracking skills or take a few days to follow through with the life and death choices he makes. that isn't to much for killing something and ending it's life to never breath again and leave this world behind...9hrs for a life seems pretty small......

[Wea300mag]

Punch your tag, buy a second tag and punch it, then try again next year with more firepower.

[sled]

  I learned hunter ethics and shot placement, along with responsibility when i was 13.  No excuse on this one!

[ICEMAN]

did you read his explanation 

I hope he has learned from this but when one uses excuses to try and explain poor decisions(plural) it's hard to know.

I wouldn't want him to stop hunting bear with a bow just because of this thread as it looks like he can kill deer with good shots but take some steps to insure success before he shoots another for sure,  maybe study the chest cavity of bears which is very different than deer or learn some tracking skills or take a few days to follow through with the life and death choices he makes..........

Yes, I read his comments. I also checked out many of his other posts on the site and do not find all that much to worry about. I was 18 once too and am willing to give him a break. We need hunters to teach each other and not run them off. 

[grizzlyadams]

Why don't some of you adults here give this 18 year old hunter a break. I am sure he has learned a whole lot from this, from the brow bashing that he has taken so far. Do we really have to keep pounding on him?

He is 18.

He screwed up.

He can read, he can read how many are dissatisfied with his choices.

Let him chalk it up to experience and learn from the mistake.

I hear ya Iceman. However it is hard to understand having to Learn such a thing. Notching your tag because you have wounded an animal and can't find it is a part of the ethics and morals that are deep rooted and a part of your nature. Shouldn't have to be learned and it shouldn't have to be said.

Just the very fact that he would post such a thing and think it's alright speaks volumes about the nature of the guy and his upbringing. No one had to tell me not to steel or rape or murder for me to know its wrong. Falls along the same lines evenn though its not the same.

[mfswallace]

Why don't some of you adults here give this 18 year old hunter a break. I am sure he has learned a whole lot from this, from the brow bashing that he has taken so far. Do we really have to keep pounding on him?

He is 18.

He screwed up.

He can read, he can read how many are dissatisfied with his choices.

Let him chalk it up to experience and learn from the mistake.

I hear ya Iceman. However it is hard to understand having to Learn such a thing. Notching your tag because you have wounded an animal and can't find it is a part of the ethics and morals that are deep rooted and a part of your nature. Shouldn't have to be learned and it shouldn't have to be said.

Just the very fact that he would post such a thing and think it's alright speaks volumes about the nature of the guy and his upbringing. No one had to tell me not to steel or rape or murder for me to know its wrong. Falls along the same lines evenn though its not the same.

said much better than I could do it, I'm done

[ICEMAN]

I guess I feel that ethics are also learned. We are not talking about evil here. Go read the young mans posts. They are surely polite and courteous and until this bear thread of his, he seems very appropriate and polite.

I choose to give him a break and the benefit of the doubt. I am sure he is in the process of learning a good lesson.

We can all make him a good ethical hunter, or we can chastise him to the point of turning him away.

[Huntbear]

did you read his explanation 

I hope he has learned from this but when one uses excuses to try and explain poor decisions(plural) it's hard to know.

I wouldn't want him to stop hunting bear with a bow just because of this thread as it looks like he can kill deer with good shots but take some steps to insure success before he shoots another for sure,  maybe study the chest cavity of bears which is very different than deer or learn some tracking skills or take a few days to follow through with the life and death choices he makes. that isn't to much for killing something and ending it's life to never breath again and leave this world behind...9hrs for a life seems pretty small......

You have just justified my gut feelings about you from the start...  Could not agree more..    I am proud to call you a hunting partner and buddy!   

[Bob33]

I guess I feel that ethics are also learned. We are not talking about evil here. Go read the young mans posts. They are surely polite and courteous and until this bear thread of his, he seems very appropriate and polite.

I choose to give him a break and the benefit of the doubt. I am sure he is in the process of learning a good lesson.

We can all make him a good ethical hunter, or we can chastise him to the point of turning him away.

I agree. It's not the mistakes we make that determine our character; it's how we react to them.

[sebek556]

If he is not up on his bear anatomy then it is a good possibility that they were not hit in the lungs, I've been looking it over every other day since I decided that I want to take one with a bow this year. Bear with it's winter coat and fat on it can make for a hard read on their vitals. I agree 9 hours could be a little short on looking for a bear, they have this werid habit of disappearing after being hit. Get back out there man, don't be afraid to ask for help from those with more experience to help you look.

[fish vacuum]

We have all lost game.

No, we haven't (knock on wood). But many of us would notch a tag if we lost one that likely died.

[Deep Forks]

This is *censored*, the first bear I could understand, the second bear was broadside, I hit him and he started rolling and we followed the blood and marked it with ribbon and he was running in circles around the damn creek. I looked 9hrs for the first bear with a few friends and looked everywhere for the bear, I had some random guys helping me and my buddy, his dad, and his friend. Someone said a guy tagged a chocolate bear right by where I shot mine and the bear dropped instantly. I think he tagged my bear...and no this is not a bogus post. Im done hunting bear. Ive always found my deer and made a good shot. These bear are tough sob's they plug up their holes to damn fast!

I see where you looked for the 1st bear for 9 hrs. with the help of a buddy, his dad and his friend, but what happened with the 2nd bear, was it the one you think was tagged by another hunter?  If not, it's close to that creek.IMHO