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Re: Suicide in the Pasayten
« Reply #15 on: September 22, 2012, 11:36:06 AM »
Lets see......... Enduring days, months, years in screaming gnawing never ending pain and sickness or going to sleep in the wilderness and letting my family deal with a few picked over white bones in a couple years? I'll have to agree with Hunterman.
The first bird may get the worm, but it's the second rat that gets the cheese.

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Re: Suicide in the Pasayten
« Reply #16 on: September 22, 2012, 11:41:32 AM »
Well, either way, when your family needs a good counselor, I am available.  Got to tell you though, I have personally lived through both and I can assure you that death is never easy.
Matthew 6:33

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Re: Suicide in the Pasayten
« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2012, 02:17:21 PM »
I've had a very close family member kill herself......AFTER calling me to make sure I was alright and making sure I would get some money. And I've faced the possibility myself {pancreatic cancer}.........It's a decision you have to make for yourself, you can't make it for someone else.
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Re: Suicide in the Pasayten
« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2012, 05:03:54 PM »
We had a co-worker blow his head off about 3 weeks ago.   As a supervisor I took the call.  Pretty wierd.   He certainly had issues and had a poor work performance, but WOW.   His wife dumped him so he made sure she paid.  He went into the center of the house after destroying it, and soiled the whole center of the house.  She won't go back in it.  He knew his son would be the one to find him.   I think that sucked.  The first thought that came to my mind was he was selfish for doing that to them.  Still sorting it out in myh mind.

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Re: Suicide in the Pasayten
« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2012, 08:17:04 AM »
Suicide,
I can not think of a more selfish act a person can perform.
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The American Soldier and Jesus Christ. One died for your freedom, the other for your soul.

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He trains my hands for war and my fingers for battle.
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Re: Suicide in the Pasayten
« Reply #20 on: September 24, 2012, 08:45:43 AM »
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Suicide,
I can not think of a more selfish act a person can perform.

 :yeah:

Peope say its to ease the pain of their family.  I call BS.  I is only about them.  THEY don't want to deal with it, play the cards they are dealt.  THEY want the easy way out. 

Not me, I only get to die once and I want to experience it.....as slow as it may be.
We must reject the idea that every time a law's broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions.
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Re: Suicide in the Pasayten
« Reply #21 on: September 24, 2012, 04:36:59 PM »
Your right...... I'd of done it in a minute if things went differently. Piss on the family, they'll get over it. Whats selfish is having the audacity to think you have the right to make that decision for someone else.
The first bird may get the worm, but it's the second rat that gets the cheese.

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Re: Suicide in the Pasayten
« Reply #22 on: September 24, 2012, 06:02:11 PM »
Having gone through this a year ago with a relative I will say that the survivor's don't just "get over it".  Knowing now what kind of impact that suicide has on family is hard to describe.  If I end up with a terminal illness some day the last thing I want to leave behind is more grief and questions for everyone to deal with.  I hope no one thinks they are doing anyone else a favor to end things for themself. 

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Re: Suicide in the Pasayten
« Reply #23 on: September 24, 2012, 06:58:25 PM »
I've been through it...... I know "you don't just get over it". I'd NEVER tell someone that I know better than them. You can't even imagine what some people go through, they know better than anyone when it's time to go. I had a very close family member kill herself, when the age and pain got too much. And I'd have done the one way hike if my cancer had not been caught when it did. And I have a high threshold for pain. A good day is when I get a little sleep and don't wake up screaming........ Sooooo, don't tell me when I've had enough, that'll be my decision.......My wife would move on richer than now, and soon no one would even know I ever existed.
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Re: Suicide in the Pasayten
« Reply #24 on: September 24, 2012, 08:04:47 PM »
A good friend of mine decided to off himself in elk camp. Granted it was not during elk season, but the summer before. I camped there that season but it has totally ruined that camp and the group that hunted out of there. I can't go back there. I see the tree that he sat against where he put the shotgun in his mouth and I just can't go back. Just can't do it. Why did he do it? Personal humiliation over a stupid thing he had done. That being said, if I had a terminal illness I would do the same thing, but I sure wouldn't do it it a place special to so many other people. It's tough to find remains in the woods, but what better place to go if that's what you need to do...

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Re: Suicide in the Pasayten
« Reply #25 on: September 24, 2012, 08:22:17 PM »
glad to see the family get closure. She picked a pretty area to go.

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Re: Suicide in the Pasayten
« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2012, 09:19:33 PM »
Yeah, you wouldn't want to off yourself in your long time hunting camp.....Or your best friends back yard......Maybe your ex-wifes husbands Cadillac.........
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Re: Suicide in the Pasayten
« Reply #27 on: September 25, 2012, 04:55:00 AM »
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glad to see the family get closure. She picked a pretty area to go.

That she did Saylean. 

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Re: Suicide in the Pasayten
« Reply #28 on: September 25, 2012, 07:08:03 AM »
Last year in the naches i found a guy in his car not good.We were heading back to camp on the last day of early archery picked up our cow at squaw rock in a good mood and were ready to take up camp we were in a good mood had our elk and had a great 2 weeks coming back i had noticed a red volvo parked at hells crossing for a week.I new when i seen it there it just looked out of place passing it every morning thru the week it was parked there i told my hunting buddy theres something weird he said their probally fishing or backpacking i said no it didnt fit well every morning i would say there is the red volvo still there so coming back up 410 he was driving my jeep had our elk in the back we passed hells crossing and he looked hard and said he seen somebody in the car we turned around and i jumped out of my cj and the guy was dead had a 10/22 on his side and did the dirty deed what a ending to a good hunting season.A very selfish act and i have delt with friends before doing it and they suffer all of you say a terminal illness you would. Well man up and go out with dignity  :tup:i have a illness and when it comes time i will go out like a man and tell my family its ok i am alright and see them with my last breath instead of having some strangers find me dead in the brush just my feelings  :IBCOOL:

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Re: Suicide in the Pasayten
« Reply #29 on: September 25, 2012, 07:45:30 AM »
I pulled a body out of the lake sammamish (actually 1 of 2 the whole time I lived there, 1 suicide, 1 drowning). He parked at the park next to the house, smoked a cigarette at the dock and we found him the next morning out front. I dove in after him, but could tell once I grabbed him there was no helping him. The family was thankful. Turns out he had lost his job like a year before, was telling his wife he was still going to work, but hadnt... :dunno:
Id rather not suicide by drowning, but thats me.
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