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ya man where u been hair? lol
Quote from: igotbigbulls on September 30, 2012, 08:03:15 PMya man where u been hair? lol4 bull elk were shot and left to rot by tribal members using 22 mag in the Wenas last year on private land.The tribe id'd the shooters and no enforcement/ court action was takenI think this lack of action outlines the tribes total lack of ethics regarding enforcing the law.prove me wrong.
I might be reading them wrong (Umatilla Regs), but how can they be good if they allow long hunting seasons with no limits and either sex. These things add up to extinction in my book of thinking. when I read the limits on mule deer it said "Bucks and Does". Never mentioned how many a guy could shoot. Same thing with elk except I did note that during the rut you couldn't shoot branched antler bulls but before and after you can have at it with no limits. maybe I was reading it wrong, but that's what I got out of it.How can that be good game management?
Quote from: ribka on September 11, 2011, 09:31:43 AMQuote from: norsepeak on September 02, 2011, 02:41:55 PMaccording to the tribal game dept. representatives that were at the meeting all the natives have to do is open up their game laws and actually read them. The representatives said it's all spelled out in their rules that the feed stations are safety zones and are off limits to hunting.Tribla member know they can anything they want because WDFW will not prosecute and Tribal LEO's will not prosecute. 4 tribal members shot 4 bull elk ( spikes) last Spring in the Wenas, at night, from the road, on private property with 22 mag. They then left the elk to rot. ( I posted pics on here) As far as I know they caught the 2 offenders and nothing was done to them to date.Tribal members know this and constantly push the limit and shoot from the road, spotlight, tresspass and waste game.They are never prosecuted or fined I often run into tribal members hunting from vehicles. They stop and ask where the elk are. Every tribal member has responded that they want to be able to shoot from or near their vehicles and near the road so they do not have to hike to retrieve game. On a side note I often smell alcohol on their breath when the ask and see the empty beer cans in the back of their vehicles.Does shooting from vehicles and drinking heavily while hunting somehow play into the hunting tribal ceremony/heritage?Where is the honor in that?I wish the tribes had more members like CoastalRibka, I've stated it here before and I'll state it again, if you see something take the info. down and if you don't want to report it then give it to me and I will report it. Document everything you can and don't bother them because that's a good way of escalating a siutation that can be avoided. The situation you described I already addressed here and I'm not quite sure which post it was but it was a few months ago now. The Yakama was prosecuted in Tribal Court and last I heard he was barred of his hunting rights but not sure for how long and the other gentleman was Colville and he was turned over to the County Prosecutor. If they look Indian question their motives because nobody except Yakama's have rights east of the Cascades.I also mentioned before the Tribal Police had turned over a couple of non-members that were caught poaching and although they may have been descendants they were not enrolled members so jurisdiction fell to the County and last time I was there they were facing some jail time and loss of hunting rights.So to say "we" the Yakamas don't prosecute is a little bit immature and I can't speak for any other Tribe but I'm sure there are some bad apples that get away because nobody reports them. You don't want to do it then give it to me and I will be glad to do it.
Quote from: norsepeak on September 02, 2011, 02:41:55 PMaccording to the tribal game dept. representatives that were at the meeting all the natives have to do is open up their game laws and actually read them. The representatives said it's all spelled out in their rules that the feed stations are safety zones and are off limits to hunting.Tribla member know they can anything they want because WDFW will not prosecute and Tribal LEO's will not prosecute. 4 tribal members shot 4 bull elk ( spikes) last Spring in the Wenas, at night, from the road, on private property with 22 mag. They then left the elk to rot. ( I posted pics on here) As far as I know they caught the 2 offenders and nothing was done to them to date.Tribal members know this and constantly push the limit and shoot from the road, spotlight, tresspass and waste game.They are never prosecuted or fined I often run into tribal members hunting from vehicles. They stop and ask where the elk are. Every tribal member has responded that they want to be able to shoot from or near their vehicles and near the road so they do not have to hike to retrieve game. On a side note I often smell alcohol on their breath when the ask and see the empty beer cans in the back of their vehicles.Does shooting from vehicles and drinking heavily while hunting somehow play into the hunting tribal ceremony/heritage?Where is the honor in that?I wish the tribes had more members like Coastal
according to the tribal game dept. representatives that were at the meeting all the natives have to do is open up their game laws and actually read them. The representatives said it's all spelled out in their rules that the feed stations are safety zones and are off limits to hunting.
question for the yakama guy's, would or could the tribe get their crap together and manage the elk on the rez like the apache tribe in arizona? I believe that you guy's have some of the best area in the state to build a real nice trophy area. Having worked on the rez many times over the years I believe you got the makins for it, but also know that the tribal council can be a little hard to work with since they don't even like to work with each other sometimes. I know the one in arizona charges up the ying yang to hunt and they have a waitin list.Seems like a win win for the tribe to me. just curious, not trying to stir anything.
as far as the regs go this is all i can do is post what there is to follow http://www.umatilla.nsn.us/hunting%20regulations.pdfi for one would like to see if anything to first start with some type of harvest reporting for all game not just some of the game by our tribe. it would actually be nice to see the numbers
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