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Would you turn in a wolf poacher?

Yes
53 (17.5%)
No
250 (82.5%)

Total Members Voted: 303

Voting closed: October 04, 2012, 10:49:29 PM

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Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #30 on: September 25, 2012, 08:01:24 AM »
Just please burry the evidence. Remove the collar, stick it to a log and send it down a river. As sportsman the last thing we want is to get caught killing them.

I would not turn in a wolf shooter.

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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #31 on: September 25, 2012, 08:06:21 AM »
What wolf poacher? :dunno:  :chuckle:
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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #32 on: September 25, 2012, 08:19:22 AM »
Blatant disregard for the law (both state and federal) is no way to advance our cause in terms of responsible wildlife management.  How much faith are you going to have in a guy who will poach one species (predator or not) that he will not do the same for animals you care about (deer, elk, etc.)?  How much faith will the public have, more importantly?  The law is the law, and real change will not come via illegal shots in the woods, but via hard work in the courts and in the eyes of the public.   

So, right, the question- yes, I'd turn that person right in.  By the way, the law does not distinguish between subspecies: Canis lupus is Canis lupus, the gray wolf.  Mackenzie River vs. Northern Rockies subspecies?  The court will not buy that defense. 

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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #33 on: September 25, 2012, 08:25:11 AM »
Blatant disregard for the law (both state and federal) is no way to advance our cause in terms of responsible wildlife management.  How much faith are you going to have in a guy who will poach one species (predator or not) that he will not do the same for animals you care about (deer, elk, etc.)?  How much faith will the public have, more importantly?  The law is the law, and real change will not come via illegal shots in the woods, but via hard work in the courts and in the eyes of the public.   

So, right, the question- yes, I'd turn that person right in.  By the way, the law does not distinguish between subspecies: Canis lupus is Canis lupus, the gray wolf.  Mackenzie River vs. Northern Rockies subspecies?  The court will not buy that defense.

That doesn't mean the law is right or that it should not be changed. The law does not distinguish between sub-species, but do scientists? Personally I won't break the law because I can't afford to mount a legal defense to take action based on principle. But I do think that the wolves that were introduced to this state need to be removed. :twocents:

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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #34 on: September 25, 2012, 08:34:07 AM »
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But I do think that the wolves that were introduced to this state need to be removed.

Wolves were never "introduced" to this state.

They came here on their own. And, some have been here all along, in my opinion.

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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #35 on: September 25, 2012, 08:38:32 AM »
Yup I would.

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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #36 on: September 25, 2012, 08:38:58 AM »
No, I would not turn one in.   


The WDFW will probably up the points to 20 for turning in wolf poachers after the results of this are poll are made public.  :chuckle:   They can't buy some of us...


 



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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #37 on: September 25, 2012, 08:52:52 AM »
Yup. Don't like 'em, don't want 'em. I wouldn't teach my kids to do something illegal, why would I condone anyone of our group? Ethics is always touchy, to each their own.

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RE: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #38 on: September 25, 2012, 09:03:02 AM »
Funny thing about state wildlife policies and laws. You can either belly ache or you can choose to take part.

How many of you have ever picked up the phone to call your area representatives and let them know your feelings on this? How many of you attend WDFW meetings to voice your feelings on the matter or for that matter call them or e-mail (with some civility guys)?

Your legislators work for you and so does the WDFW. If you don't take part nothing will change and if you don't let them know they won't either.

Don't believe it can work? The anti hunting lobby tried to shut down hunting in the Huron National Forest last year in Michigan. But hunters organized and made their feelings known and kept the pressure on and prevented that from happening. Similar organization has blocked anti dog breeding legislation that would adversely affect responsible breeders of gun dogs and hounds and yes, it also helped push the DNR out there into hunting wolves and not just because of livestock kills.

Learn to work the system or the sierra club and every tree hugging hiker will ensure you can't hunt in the future.

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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #39 on: September 25, 2012, 09:05:37 AM »
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Your cool factor just went way up...  :chuckle:

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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #40 on: September 25, 2012, 09:05:54 AM »
I would just close my eyes or plug my ears  :dunno: :chuckle: :chuckle:

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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #41 on: September 25, 2012, 09:06:46 AM »
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But I do think that the wolves that were introduced to this state need to be removed.

Wolves were never "introduced" to this state.

They came here on their own. And, some have been here all along, in my opinion.

So they were not introduced, but they are non-native? If this is the case I still think they should be treated by WDFW as a non-native invasive species.

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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #42 on: September 25, 2012, 09:11:57 AM »
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I still think they should be treated by WDFW as a non-native invasive species.

I agree.

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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #43 on: September 25, 2012, 09:13:43 AM »
Yes I would.  Ever since I took my wife to see the game warden for killing a mule deer during a late whitetail season, 4 months into our marriage, she pretty much demands that I turn in every poacher I see.
As long as we have the habitat, we can argue forever about who gets to kill what and when.  No habitat = no game.

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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #44 on: September 25, 2012, 09:16:01 AM »
Yes I would.  Ever since I took my wife to see the game warden for killing a mule deer during a late whitetail season, 4 months into our marriage, she pretty much demands that I turn in every poacher I see.

Did you collect your points?   :chuckle:

 


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