Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?

[trophyhunt]

You guys that are trying to say poaching is poaching NO MATTER what kill me!

So according to you law abiding , BY the BOOK guys,

YOU dont speed? come to a complete stop at every stop sign, never throw a gum wrapper out the window, throw a cigarette butt out the window,  slow to 35 on the curve,  YA right.

So who is choosing what laws to break ? HMMMM might have something to do with getting 10 points so you can eat that BIG BULLS HORNS someday....

What it really comes down to is , Who owns the wildlife in this state? WE the people do. Sure we try and obey the game regs, if you can interpret what they mean.  But Im sorry ETHICS and these wolves should not be used in the same sentence, what is ethical about our politicians allowing the wolves to be brought in, and WE the hunters are paying for them to do so.

To hell with them wolves and anyone who supports them. Bitch about hunting but yet support wolves!! you got issues..

RTSPRING

Very well put.

[h2ofowlr]

yes, a poach is a poach, a white lie is no less a lie and a $5 bill is no different that $100 bill stolen, all of the above are as equally destructive. it all comes down to ethic, morality, and honesty. If they will poach a wolf they will poach a elk, its all about the "i can get away with it" mentality. That being said, I personally would not go out looking to poach a wolf, BUT if i see a wolf while I'm hunting, bang, dead wolf, because I wish to live and they are more deadly then a tom as far as I'm concerned, because I know his buddies are lurking around me very close. Crap, Id have to turn myself in 

I wouldn't poach a deer or elk, but I would shoot a stray dog running game just like a wolf if given the opportunity.  A stray dog running big game that I cherish is no different than a wolf.  That is where I draw my line.  I know most people that see a yote take a poke at it year around.  If you see a deer or elk do you take a poke at it.  Absolutely not.  Don't bring them back to this state and there won't be an ethics issues involved.  No line will have to be drawn in the sand and I think a lot of people wouldn't be talking about something they wouldn't normally do.  They are forcing the smart ones to cross the lines.  Just like when some of you vote for Obama again and he makes you register your guns, UN Gun Treaty and all the other s**t storm that's coming.  I will be drawing another line.  I will keep my one gun and I will let some of you take up hunting with lawn darts and blow guns.

[Huntbear]

I would, so I could collect the 10 points for quality bull, that would put me just at 20 points.  Then I could draw a Big Bull tag in a Blues unit i know nothing about and expect all you guys to help me out, since I could never afford to drive over there and scout.

 

<all said with tongue in cheek>   

[copasj]

You guys that are trying to say poaching is poaching NO MATTER what kill me!

So according to you law abiding , BY the BOOK guys,

YOU dont speed? come to a complete stop at every stop sign, never throw a gum wrapper out the window, throw a cigarette butt out the window,  slow to 35 on the curve,  YA right.

So who is choosing what laws to break ? HMMMM might have something to do with getting 10 points so you can eat that BIG BULLS HORNS someday....

What it really comes down to is , Who owns the wildlife in this state? WE the people do. Sure we try and obey the game regs, if you can interpret what they mean.  But Im sorry ETHICS and these wolves should not be used in the same sentence, what is ethical about our politicians allowing the wolves to be brought in, and WE the hunters are paying for them to do so.

To hell with them wolves and anyone who supports them. Bitch about hunting but yet support wolves!! you got issues..

RTSPRING

I admit that I speed occasionally, but I don't contest the ticket.  I send in the check.  The difference is that I don't speed on purpose, but it's hard to accidentally poach.  You can't really compare traffic violations like speeding with poaching anyway.  Traffic violations are not criminal offenses.

My two cents on the issue.

In the end poaching wolves will keep them protected longer.  Lower populations will prevent the state from being able to manage them.  And any kind of poaching helps anti-hunters push to restrict hunting rights.  It's a short term "solution" that delays fixing the issue.   

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[GrousePointer]

Who wants to go hound hunting?

Oh that's right, hunters in this state didn't organize well enough and the initiative process ended that for us. WDFW or the state gov didn't have to do a thing.

Go poach some wolves and see what the voting public might do to our past time as a result. Or worse, wait for the anti wolf hunting initiative.

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[rtspring]

I do drive over the speed limit sometimes and if it's too far, I get a ticket and i don't whine about it. If I see someone drop money in the parking lot, I ALWAYS give it to them. If I find a large amount of money in a parking lot, I'll bring it to the store manager and get a receipt. I always used my ashtray and never throw a gum wrapper out a window, ever.

RT, you often lately seem ready to jump down on another hunter because you have a difference of opinion. This is a poll to see what hunters think. Like with any other, there's no reason to attack people. We know everyone has different standards. You certainly have yours and I have mine. That doesn't mean we have to treat each other with disrespect when disagreeing on a topic. I suggest that won't do anything positive to keep us working together as a group on the things about which we do agree.

My whole post was about those hunters among us who break laws, however so slight but yet when it comes to hunting, they will try and get any reward offered.   I live my life this way, Plain and simple, cut and dry.

You either folow the rules, or you dont.  This is my opinion, you are entitled to yours too...

[Sitka_Blacktail]

I would not because my understanding is that the native wolves were wiped out from our state, and the wolves we have now are larger, more aggressive Canadian grey wolves introduced to the state artificially. So, I consider them a non-native invasive species. I would not shoot one myself or condone it because our current(retarded) laws have them listed as protected. I would kind of like there to still be a deer/elk herd when my son is old enough to start hunting with me though. 

So you wouldn't turn in a poacher of pheasant, turkey,  chuckar, partridge, or quail? All are introduced non native species. By your logic, game laws don't need to be followed with these species.  With aquatic species Washington has non native largemouth and smallmouth bass, walleye and northern pike, rainbow trout, kokanee, Manila clams, oysters, and many more. So I guess we don't need to follow any laws or regs concerning those species.

Cattle, sheep, horses, and pigs are also introduced species so I guess you won't be turning in anyone for shooting them out of a farmer's field either.

[Miles]

I would turn someone in for driving an ATV in a prohibited area before I would turn someone in for shooting a whole pack of wolves.




  That ought to bring this to 20 pages.

[rtspring]

A law is a law right? Do you agree to that one? ok, if you do, then wheres your argument coming from?

So some can break laws but yet choose to turn in others for breaking the law?  Wait for it,,,, thats called being a hipocrite is it not?


RTSPRING

[Huntbear]

I would not because my understanding is that the native wolves were wiped out from our state, and the wolves we have now are larger, more aggressive Canadian grey wolves introduced to the state artificially. So, I consider them a non-native invasive species. I would not shoot one myself or condone it because our current(retarded) laws have them listed as protected. I would kind of like there to still be a deer/elk herd when my son is old enough to start hunting with me though. 

So you wouldn't turn in a poacher of pheasant, turkey,  chuckar, partridge, or quail? All are introduced non native species. By your logic, game laws don't need to be followed with these species.  With aquatic species Washington has non native largemouth and smallmouth bass, walleye and northern pike, rainbow trout, kokanee, Manila clams, oysters, and many more. So I guess we don't need to follow any laws or regs concerning those species.

Cattle, sheep, horses, and pigs are also introduced species so I guess you won't be turning in anyone for shooting them out of a farmer's field either.

And the Elk in Central Washington were hunted to Extinction at one point, so the elk that are here are not really native either, most likely implants from Montana, or Canada or Wyoming...

Not saying I think wolves should be here.  I guess my problem is how the majority of them got here.. because there WERE WOLVES HERE 10 YEARS AGO... just not as many.  Due to the transplanting of the Canadian Grey Wolf into Yellowstone, and Idaho, and Wyoming, they are just flat taking over, and decimating elk herds left and right.... Idaho and Montana have it right, if you can not control the population one way, control it with erradication, or as close to it as possible.  The problem is, we live in a SANCTUARY STATE, for illegal aliens of all kinds, including 4 legged ones..

[Gringo31]

Its against the law to eat road kill as well.

or

To kill/finish off a deer you hit with your truck.


SOME guys might think its the right thing to finish off the suffereing animal and then salvage what they can vs total waste.  They may feel it is RIGHT to do so, even if against the law.......and there lies the gray area.....

[Fl0und3rz]

Some questions just ought not be asked, or associated with hunt-wa. 

There are laws that make sense, and there are laws that it makes no sense not to exercise a little civil disobedience.  But I would not give any ammo to those who would force irrational methods of wildlife management on us.

[huntnphool]

I also oppose appointments to the wildlife commission which would top-load it with animal rights activists like Jay Kehne.

Yeah, how'd that go for you? 

[huntnphool]

I also oppose appointments to the wildlife commission which would top-load it with animal rights activists like Jay Kehne.

Yeah, how'd that go for you? 

I'll continue to stay in their faces. Are you doing the same? We need all the hunters we can get to be vocal and in the face of our DFW and legislators

I was all but two of the meetings, don't bark up that tree.

[Kowsrule30]

On this subject I'd just turn, walk a different direction and not say a word...