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Would you turn in a wolf poacher?

Yes
53 (17.5%)
No
250 (82.5%)

Total Members Voted: 303

Voting closed: October 04, 2012, 10:49:29 PM

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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #270 on: October 30, 2012, 08:39:09 PM »
Just because it is not legal does not make it not right.
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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #271 on: November 01, 2012, 08:57:52 AM »
tough one. but no, i wouldn't.
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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #272 on: November 01, 2012, 07:12:00 PM »
It is amazing that there are still people that would kill their own mother if THE LAW REQUIRED IT.  It is a very good thing that our forefathers had a mind of their own and did not follow that intellect or we would not be a free country ,or else we would still be under British control.

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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #273 on: November 08, 2012, 06:55:47 AM »
No such thing as a wolf poacher!  :chuckle:  That's like saying a poacher poacher!
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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #274 on: November 08, 2012, 06:56:45 AM »
It is amazing that there are still people that would kill their own mother if THE LAW REQUIRED IT.  It is a very good thing that our forefathers had a mind of their own and did not follow that intellect or we would not be a free country ,or else we would still be under British control.
Very well Put!

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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #275 on: November 08, 2012, 07:23:42 AM »
I believe we're already too far along to control wolves with illegal poaching. In my opinion, legal hunting of wolves is the only hope we have of controlling them. That won't occur until enough breeding pairs have been documented.

Regardless of the ethics, poaching now may hurt more than help in the long run by delaying legal hunting. :twocents:
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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #276 on: November 08, 2012, 07:25:46 AM »
I believe we're already too far along to control wolves with illegal poaching. In my opinion, legal hunting of wolves is the only hope we have of controlling them. That won't occur until enough breeding pairs have been documented.

Regardless of the ethics, poaching now may hurt more than help in the long run by delaying legal hunting. :twocents:

And, three more years pass after those breeding pairs have been documented. That's the other big kicker to this awful plan.
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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #277 on: November 08, 2012, 08:42:20 AM »
Hey Bob33.   So what does the cattlemen do that reports wolves on his place and killing animals and the authorities won't respond.   Does he continue to feed the wolves his animals or lock and load?  Although, I do agree they are starting to respond better these days.  In the beginning they didn't even believe we had wolves and several cattlemen had animals killed and reported it and gave up because the authorities chalked them off as KOOKs. 

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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #278 on: November 08, 2012, 09:00:38 AM »
I believe we're already too far along to control wolves with illegal poaching. In my opinion, legal hunting of wolves is the only hope we have of controlling them.
Legal hunting in every other state has done nothing to control the wolf population Bob. Just as vice chair Duvia asked WDFW, I'll ask you, what makes you think it will work here when it completely failed in those other states?
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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #279 on: November 08, 2012, 09:11:36 AM »
I think you are also living in a fantasy camp if you think wolf hunting will ever become legal in this state, you know the one where you can smoke pot and marry your gay lover. :chuckle:

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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #280 on: November 08, 2012, 09:28:28 AM »
I think you are also living in a fantasy camp if you think wolf hunting will ever become legal in this state, you know the one where you can smoke pot and marry your gay lover. :chuckle:

It'll come, Bone, but it'll be way too late by the time it does.
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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #281 on: November 08, 2012, 10:10:03 AM »
I believe we're already too far along to control wolves with illegal poaching. In my opinion, legal hunting of wolves is the only hope we have of controlling them.
Legal hunting in every other state has done nothing to control the wolf population Bob. Just as vice chair Duvia asked WDFW, I'll ask you, what makes you think it will work here when it completely failed in those other states?
Please provide evidence that poaching is working well in the other states.  Thanks.
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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #282 on: November 08, 2012, 10:14:34 AM »
I believe we're already too far along to control wolves with illegal poaching. In my opinion, legal hunting of wolves is the only hope we have of controlling them.
Legal hunting in every other state has done nothing to control the wolf population Bob. Just as vice chair Duvia asked WDFW, I'll ask you, what makes you think it will work here when it completely failed in those other states?
Please provide evidence that poaching is working well in the other states.  Thanks.
Um...........I never said it did, I simply asked you a question.
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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #283 on: November 08, 2012, 10:31:21 AM »
I believe we're already too far along to control wolves with illegal poaching. In my opinion, legal hunting of wolves is the only hope we have of controlling them.
Legal hunting in every other state has done nothing to control the wolf population Bob. Just as vice chair Duvia asked WDFW, I'll ask you, what makes you think it will work here when it completely failed in those other states?
Please provide evidence that poaching is working well in the other states.  Thanks.
Um...........I never said it did, I simply asked you a question.
Ok. I cannot provide a definitive answer but I believe legal hunting does help in other states. It certainly does not eliminate the problem, and possibly has no significant effect. My concern is that illegal activity may not solve the problem either, but without question will cast hunters in a negative light by anti hunters and may also delay legal hunting indefinitely.
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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #284 on: November 08, 2012, 10:43:26 AM »
Most illegal activity will go unknown.  There are darn few radio'd wolves and they'll be passed on by the law breaker. The others, they aren't going to be on a parade and except for idiots, they won't even be spoken of.  I think one has to assume that the civil disobidient crowd is ineffective just based on the results in the other states. Since so many seem at least willing to consider shoot and walk, we have to assume that even the combination of legal/illegal is at best going to hold serve.  I think darn few wolves that are shot are ever going to enter the public consciousness and so will reflect on no one. Ones shot on the road, in a farm field or bragged over.... those are the issue from a PR standpoint. 

Wolves in NE idao or WA are going to be impossible to control by hunting or poaching because of the habitat. It'll take copters and marksmen or trapping.

 


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