i grew up huntn elbe hills, at one time it was a desent place to hunt, now there is a crap load of people and alot of cats, if you come in from elbe town you can walk up the hill and see a few deer, the big problem with that now is there are guys comin in on quads from the propertys off the end of holiday hills, i hate to say it but i think its gets hit pretty hard from the back of quads at all hours of the day and night, my dad owns a big house and some property on scott turner and he hasnt been seeing that many deer at all, the weather hasnt been to good though...