3 MORE WOLVES KILLED TODAY

[stickbuck]

I believe the pack number was 8-11 wolves prior to eliminating the six. At least that is what I thought I read today.

[boneaddict]

correct

[Ridgeratt]

In 2010 I had 5 differant wolf howls one morning while I was standing on a point and I'm pretty sure they couldn't move that fast. So with one howling I wonder if there were any more just standing with their buddies listening. This was just east of the Diamond M over looking it. So in the next 2 years how many pups were born and survived?
Kudos to the WDFW for taking a stance to work on the problem, but as said before not sure they got all of them.

[bobcat]

So the WDFW basically lied when they said they were going to eliminate the entire pack?

[Ridgeratt]

So the WDFW basically lied when they said they were going to eliminate the entire pack?

I'm not accusing them of a mis-truth but I also question the fact they can have an exact count of how many.
Bobcat just how familiar with the area in question. Understand that part of the Diamond M range is now more that the width of a county road from Canada, or a 4 wire fence. Therefore any of the pack that is across the border is still in existence.

As I replied once before when you brought this up.

Fast and Furious was more than just a car movie!!

[Silent-one]

So the WDFW basically lied when they said they were going to eliminate the entire pack?

Well I guess by your way of thinking we should believe everything they say right! I guess I missed the press release when they confirmed only 8 animals were in the pack.

I'll take Ridgeratts estimate over WDFW's any day of the week. Lets see, heard 5 separate wolves howling 2 years ago and since then they have only had 3 pups. Yeah right........

Maybe you need to go back and watch the video of the trapper and look at his face when the wolves answered him. Way more in that pack then they ever expected.

[bobcat]

I'm not sure I understand the last two posts. I was asking a serious question. The WDFW said in the beginning they planned to eliminate the entire pack. Now apparently they have stated that they killed the alpha male today, and their mission is complete.

I was asking for some clarification. My question was not meant to be sarcastic if that's the way you took it.

Did they wipe out the entire pack or not? Or at least are they saying that they wiped out the entire pack? Because from the news release they put out it isn't entirely clear (at least to me).

[Ridgeratt]

Well just how accurate are the game surveys they make do you think they count every deer or elk when they make them? 

[bobcat]

They count deer and elk? News to me.

I am only going by what they stated in the news releases they put out. They said they were going to eliminate the entire pack. I THINK they said today that they DID eliminate the entire pack. My question was "how the hell do they KNOW they did?"

[Kola16]

They count deer and elk? News to me.

News to me also  Except I knew they counted elk in some areas.

[Elkslayer]

Exactly! They don't know for sure because they didn't know how many there were to begin with.

[bobcat]

OK, thanks, my question has been answered. Somehow I thought they knew exactly how many were in the pack. Well it does seem like they would have counted them all while chasing them down with a helicopter. Maybe the pack scatters when they do that?

[Mudman]

If they killed em all except the breeding pair which has collared male then they killed the entire pack but left a pair.  Two wolves do not qualify as a pack!!!!!!!!!

[lokidog]

Bobcat, you had a valid question since THEIR biologists estimated 8-11 animals in the pack and only 6 have been removed.  You would think since they could reliably track the pack with the alpha male's collar, they would have an accurate number for the wolves in the pack.  Typical WDFW I guess, make up numbers when you don't know....

[Bob33]

Bobcat, you had a valid question since THEIR biologists estimated 8-11 animals in the pack and only 6 have been removed.  You would think since they could reliably track the pack with the alpha male's collar, they would have an accurate number for the wolves in the pack.  Typical WDFW I guess, make up numbers when you don't know....

Seven were killed; one was found dead.