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Moccasin Joe Blacktail doe in heat urin, thoughts?
« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2012, 03:08:45 PM »
I've had it work before...... The moccasin joe stuff is always some brown sludge, and to me many of their scents smell the same. I'm unsure how they get brown sludge from doe pee. Guessing there is a few more ingredients.

My favorite is the code blue single deer stuff. Blacktails don't seem to care that its a whitetail scent.
The code blue doesn't smell like the moccasin joe brown sludge.....


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Re: Moccasin Joe Blacktail doe in heat urin, thoughts?
« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2012, 03:34:08 PM »
It's taken from blacktail in captivity. It drains down through a catch basin on a concrete pad. The brown sludge is deer crap. Most bottles of Moccasin Joe aren't as effective as others. It all depends whether or not the doe was in peak heat cycle when the piss was collected. You might have to buy ten bottles to find that one that works :chuckle:
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Moccasin Joe Blacktail doe in heat urin, thoughts?
« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2012, 10:26:30 PM »
Where do they have these black tails in captivity? I always wondered that.

On their website they are all about supporting "privately owned hunting ranches" and talk all about them on links and "about us" ect.... Couldn't find anything about blacktails in captivity. They sure are proud of their plastic bottles.

I used the stuff for years and it seemed to work. The modern late buck season it seemed to get some deers attention. Killed a buck or two using it in combo with grunts, doe bleats, and sometimes rattling.

I really don't understand their claims of all natural no preservatives and yet no expiration date. I'd think piss and poop sludge would go south pretty quickly. Wonder if they pasteurize it or something.

Interesting stuff...... Snake oil....

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Re: Moccasin Joe Blacktail doe in heat urin, thoughts?
« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2012, 07:03:57 AM »
Where do they have these black tails in captivity? I always wondered that.
 Wonder if they pasteurize it or something.

A retired biologist told me there is a blacktail research center some where in Oregon where the piss is collected.

I think if sealed in the bottle and not exposed to oxygen it doesn't go rancid.  Even if it does smell bad the only ingredient a buck hones in on is the hint of estrus.
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Re: Moccasin Joe Blacktail doe in heat urin, thoughts?
« Reply #19 on: October 01, 2012, 08:02:56 AM »
Where do they have these black tails in captivity? I always wondered that.
 Wonder if they pasteurize it or something.

A retired biologist told me there is a blacktail research center some where in Oregon where the piss is collected.

I think if sealed in the bottle and not exposed to oxygen it doesn't go rancid.  Even if it does smell bad the only ingredient a buck hones in on is the hint of estrus.

I read an article in Time magazine a few years back that hit the nail on the head with the blatant fraud in consumer products. The best example they gave was, you guest it, Tinks doe in estrus.

Here are some things to think about, they sell millions of little bottle of what they call doe urine. The problem is you would have to have a herd of does in the 6 figures, that's 10s of thousands to equal what they sell just in the months of August through November.
Now remember does are in estrus for only a couple months a year.

So where is all the urine coming from? But it's 100% natural  :dunno:

The article compared Doe urine to the "Hoodia" craze, where in just 2008 the amount of products sold supposedly with hoodia in them just in the United States alone, would have completely depleted the worlds supply of Hoodia. Now add every other country and every other year and the picture gets a little more clear.
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