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Wedge pack costs
« on: October 02, 2012, 05:23:46 AM »
Wedge Pack gone; more coming soon
WILDLIFE – Washington Wildlife officials this week wouldn’t estimate costs of the effort to stop wolves from attacking cattle in northern Stevens County this summer and fall.

When other tactics failed, six Wedge Pack wolves were killed in four days of costly helicopter gunning near Laurier.

Washington Fish and Wildlife Department officials in the field were not talking to reporters, but information obtained from the agency indicated:

• Officers, biologists and supervisors worked sometimes day and night for nearly three months of hazing and lethal removal.

• At least one biologist was redirected full time on wolves rather than doing big-game surveys.

• Some staffers have so much overtime they’re not likely to recoup it all.

Dave Ware, Game Division manager, said a total of seven Wedge wolves were killed since Aug. 7 and a pup was found dead of undetermined causes.

“Could there be other wolves out there? Yes,” he said. “If we get tracks or howling a couple of months from now, it may not be a member of this pack. It could be more wolves dispersing from Canada. We’d approach that case differently. Wolves are going to come back to the wedge sooner or later. It’s good habitat.”

Ware said the agency continues to monitor for wolves and will work with ranchers to develop non-lethal methods of preventing attacks.


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Re: Wedge pack costs
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2012, 05:49:29 AM »
Wait until there are no license fees, tag fees or permit fees with the lack of game.   I wonder if the wolf lovers will step up to fund them.

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Re: Wedge pack costs
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2012, 06:09:25 AM »
What have wolves done to Idaho?

http://fishandgame.idaho.gov/public/licenses/?getPage=75
Nonresident Deer and Elk Tag Quotas
As of: September 28, 2012

2012 DEER TAGS

Regular/White-tailed Deer
Quota......Available   
12,015.......9,965
 
White-tailed Deer
Quota......Available
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Zone Elk A & B Tag
Quota......Available
10,415.....6,672
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Re: Wedge pack costs
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2012, 06:30:43 AM »
Dave Ware must be beside himself with what he's created here in WA. We all told him what was going to happen and he said it wouldn't. Now it's happening and it's too late to stop it. What a freaking mess!
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Re: Wedge pack costs
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2012, 06:34:57 AM »
In recent past, like maybe 2 years ago, I remember having to log in around the first of January to buy an elk tag as they sold out in that time frame.   Wow, big change.

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Re: Wedge pack costs
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2012, 06:53:54 AM »
Yep, you can buy an elk tag most any time now...   

I know of one place that locals have killed wolves and grizzly because of the predation of deer and elk.  The locals live off the deer and elk so they kill both of them.  No SSS just shoot and leave.  At the gas stations and diners there are signs and rewards but no one says anything... 

Like it or not, legal or illegal, this is how one community works it all out. 
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Re: Wedge pack costs
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2012, 07:02:35 AM »
its sad that WE SPORTSMAN have paid through the nose and did whatever was asked of us to hunt, and to support are wildlife to ensure that we have game to hunt and that the animals are taken care of, well now the game department and animal idiot groups have gone and thrown it right down the johnny flusher, washington has to be the laughing stock of the hunting world, hey lets let wolves back into the state after we witnessed what happened to neihboring states..........hell i need a job there....F%^K UP MOVE UP...... :tup: :tup: i like it....fricken idiots
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Re: Wedge pack costs
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2012, 08:05:17 AM »
When they figure out the dollar number spent they should forward that cost to conservation northwest.Next time let the hunters of Washington state do it,way cheaper.It's going to be the only animals up there to hunt.

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Re: Wedge pack costs
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2012, 09:14:30 AM »
The problem is that wildlife agencies have been infiltrated by anti-hunters who do not support hunting. Managers and Biologists are looking for ways to limit hunting. The wolf plan and the new study out on cougar are prime examples.


Yep, you can buy an elk tag most any time now...   

I know of one place that locals have killed wolves and grizzly because of the predation of deer and elk.  The locals live off the deer and elk so they kill both of them.  No SSS just shoot and leave.  At the gas stations and diners there are signs and rewards but no one says anything... 

Like it or not, legal or illegal, this is how one community works it all out. 

We travel through all parts of Idaho every year, for about 3 years, since Judge Malloy shut down wolf hunting the first time, this is how almost the entire state is working out their wolf problem. Malloy did more damage to wolves than any other single person. Collectively, the wolf groups are now the wolf's worst enemy with all their extremism.
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Re: Wedge pack costs
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2012, 09:46:37 AM »
The problem is that wildlife agencies have been infiltrated by anti-hunters who do not support hunting. Managers and Biologists are looking for ways to limit hunting. The wolf plan and the new study out on cougar are prime examples.


Yep, you can buy an elk tag most any time now...   

I know of one place that locals have killed wolves and grizzly because of the predation of deer and elk.  The locals live off the deer and elk so they kill both of them.  No SSS just shoot and leave.  At the gas stations and diners there are signs and rewards but no one says anything... 

Like it or not, legal or illegal, this is how one community works it all out. 

We travel through all parts of Idaho every year, for about 3 years, since Judge Malloy shut down wolf hunting the first time, this is how almost the entire state is working out their wolf problem. Malloy did more damage to wolves than any other single person. Collectively, the wolf groups are now the wolf's worst enemy with all their extremism.

http://fishandgame.idaho.gov/ifwis/huntplanner/stats.aspx#elk

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Re: Wedge pack costs
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2012, 09:50:26 AM »
That is the future for Washington unless wolf numbers are controlled.  :twocents:

Remember, there are most likely some anti-hunting WDFW employees hoping for this result. Those are the employees that need weeded out so the agency can function as a F&G agency rather than an environmentalist agency.
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Re: Wedge pack costs
« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2012, 09:57:14 AM »
That is the future for Washington unless wolf numbers are controlled.  :twocents:

Remember, there are most likely some anti-hunting WDFW employees hoping for this result. Those are the employees that need weeded out so the agency can function as a F&G agency rather than an environmentalist agency.
bearpaw, is there a way for us to vote them out or are they appointed by the higher ups?
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Re: Wedge pack costs
« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2012, 10:15:04 AM »

It's not about saving the wolves . It's about stopping our hunting of Deer ,Elk, etc.. :twocents:

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Re: Wedge pack costs
« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2012, 10:29:19 AM »
Great post.

Unintended consequences of good intentions by *censored*s/wolf huggers. I guess wildlife mgt purely by emotions and feelings does not work



Wedge Pack gone; more coming soon
WILDLIFE – Washington Wildlife officials this week wouldn’t estimate costs of the effort to stop wolves from attacking cattle in northern Stevens County this summer and fall.

When other tactics failed, six Wedge Pack wolves were killed in four days of costly helicopter gunning near Laurier.

Washington Fish and Wildlife Department officials in the field were not talking to reporters, but information obtained from the agency indicated:

• Officers, biologists and supervisors worked sometimes day and night for nearly three months of hazing and lethal removal.

• At least one biologist was redirected full time on wolves rather than doing big-game surveys.

• Some staffers have so much overtime they’re not likely to recoup it all.

Dave Ware, Game Division manager, said a total of seven Wedge wolves were killed since Aug. 7 and a pup was found dead of undetermined causes.

“Could there be other wolves out there? Yes,” he said. “If we get tracks or howling a couple of months from now, it may not be a member of this pack. It could be more wolves dispersing from Canada. We’d approach that case differently. Wolves are going to come back to the wedge sooner or later. It’s good habitat.”

Ware said the agency continues to monitor for wolves and will work with ranchers to develop non-lethal methods of preventing attacks.

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Re: Wedge pack costs
« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2012, 10:44:00 AM »
That is the future for Washington unless wolf numbers are controlled.  :twocents:

Remember, there are most likely some anti-hunting WDFW employees hoping for this result. Those are the employees that need weeded out so the agency can function as a F&G agency rather than an environmentalist agency.
bearpaw, is there a way for us to vote them out or are they appointed by the higher ups?

The Commission hires the director, but others in the WDFW are probably hired by managers and are usually career hires, very hard to get rid of. Others on the forum probably know more than I do how it works.
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