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North Idaho's Cow Elk Season Eliminated
« on: October 04, 2012, 02:13:38 PM »

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2012/sep/27/north-idahos-cow-elk-season-eliminated/

The 2012 season will go down in history as the first year the Idaho Panhandle has not offered a general antlerless elk hunt somewhere in the region.

Even bowhunters are prohibited from targeting a cow elk in the Panhandle Zone this year.

This game- changing decision was made by the Idaho Fish and Game Department with the support of hunters because of declining calf- cow survival, said Jim Hayden, department regional wildlife manager in Coeur d’Alene.

Predation by wolves, cougars and bears appears to be a major factor prompting the change, he said.

“Hunters surveyed in March supported going to a more conservative bull-only season,” Hayden said. Hunting for bulls ought to be at least as good as last year, he said.

For years, North Idaho has been distinguished among the very few places in the country in which a hunter with an over-the-counter tag could target an antlerless elk. The distinction was borne from the rugged terrain, thick forests and a prolific elk herd.

The five-to-seven days of antlerless elk hunting allowed during the longer general season was a priority for vacations, as hunters focused on getting meat, if not a bull, for their season’s effort.

“Last year we shortened the cow hunting to three days in some areas and it was the first year ever there was not a general cow elk season in all nine Panhandle units,” Hayden said.

“This year we polled sportsmen and they agreed with us that, given the survey data in most of the region, we need to do all we can to protect cows and calves.”

In addition to eliminating the cow hunt to increase elk numbers, the state aims to reduce the number of predators with several other rule changes:

• Wolf hunting and trapping seasons have been lengthened and the number of wolf tags a person can purchase per calendar year has been increased to five.

• Black bear limits were increased to two per season in units 2, 6, 7 and 9 and seasons were increased in some areas.

• Mountain lion season was increased by about eight weeks in some areas, including units 6, 7 and 9, bringing them in line with most of the state.

“We had been seeing mountain lion harvest increase in recent years, which is an indication that we may have been under-harvesting them and populations were growing,” Hayden said.

The first sure signs of problems with the elk herd surfaced two years ago in surveys showing a decline in calf survival, notably in units 7 and 9, Hayden said.

“That was the yellow caution signal. The red flag went up last year when the ratios dropped substantially even in a year with a mild winter. Now we’re seeing the problem in portions of units 1 and 4. It’s a trend.

“Logically, we’re looking at predation. No surprise, the areas with the most wolves seem to have the biggest problems.”
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Re: North Idaho's Cow Elk Season Eliminated
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2012, 02:15:41 PM »
My letter to our Wildlife Commission:

Subject: Predator Problems in ID forecast WA's Future

Dear Wildlife Commissioners,

Please read this article about cow elk hunts being ended in Northern ID. We're headed for this if we don't take action and curb our plans for the wolf plan and the plan to limit cougar hunts to be initiated this December.

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2012/sep/27/north-idahos-cow-elk-season-eliminated/

I have pasted the full text of the article at the end of my email. Please note the last line of the article, where ID Department of Fish & Game Regional Director Hayden said, "Logically, we’re looking at predation. No surprise, the areas with the most wolves seem to have the biggest problems."

I hope you'll seriously consider what's happening there as a forecast of what's to come here in WA if something isn't done and done soon.

Thank you for considering my comments.

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Most Sincerely,

John W
Vancouver, WA
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Re: North Idaho's Cow Elk Season Eliminated
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2012, 02:22:09 PM »
Interesting. Five Wolfe tags now that's nice, I hunt close to Idaho but never in Idaho.  Is the use of hounds allowed in northern Idaho?  For Cougar and Bear?   

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Re: North Idaho's Cow Elk Season Eliminated
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2012, 02:26:22 PM »
Put my name on that! Its sad. I have never hunted elk or deer in Idaho but last year I went on a moose hunt with my dad in the panhandle and saw as many elk as wolves.. 2 a piece. Not to meansion we talked with many guys that travel to the area from a cross the country for elk season and they could not believe the drastic change in animal behavior and the total lack of animals in the area compared to a few years ago.
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Re: North Idaho's Cow Elk Season Eliminated
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2012, 02:29:47 PM »
I have also written the WDFW Commission referencing this article.  I believe they should be hearing from all of us regarding the very obvious and proven consequences of continuing down the current "wolf" and large apex predator path.

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Re: North Idaho's Cow Elk Season Eliminated
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2012, 02:31:09 PM »
Put my name on that! Its sad. I have never hunted elk or deer in Idaho but last year I went on a moose hunt with my dad in the panhandle and saw as many elk as wolves.. 2 a piece. Not to meansion we talked with many guys that travel to the area from a cross the country for elk season and they could not believe the drastic change in animal behavior and the total lack of animals in the area compared to a few years ago.

There is no list. Please send your comments to our Wildlife Commission here:
commission@dfw.wa.gov
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Re: North Idaho's Cow Elk Season Eliminated
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2012, 03:24:28 PM »
Comments sent!
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