Couple of you on here have all this data from PA and keep posting it, but yet when someone brings up other apr units in the state..its a "useless" fact or you bring up some other numbers to try and nullify it, but yet you keep bringing up PA studys that are across the country,completely different terrain, hunting seasons, pressure, management, predators etc.... list goes on forever there is nothing the same as here other than people hunt and on paper 4pt min..THATS IT!..makes no sense. Again its on paper and what your reading! you better start breaking each unit down in PA like you have done here in WA . There will be bigger and more bucks in the 2 units in WA in a couple of years guranteed! There isnt enough people here in NE WA that really get after it. There is a ton of terrain in the 2 units that people dont put in a ton of effort to harvest a whitey. I know cause I have been in the units way to much during rifle season to see areas void of people