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Re: Wolves kill another cow, Smackout Pack suspected
« Reply #45 on: October 11, 2012, 09:49:43 AM »
No one is sure how this animal died either, which sucks.  Its very tough to tell on an old carcass... I really think the WDFW would be honest if they thought it was a wolf kill, but there's not much evidence one way or another.

I want to believe what you say is true, but there are some wolf lovers in the WDFW that make the agency hard to trust and WDFW also has to play a political game to keep the huggers from going off the deep end. Right now Senator Ranker (a wolf lover likely bankrolled by Conservation Northwest) is raising hell over the wedge pack. If there is any way for the WDFW to sidestep a confirmed wolf attack, they are going to avoid the heat.

Right now I figure there is a serious learning process going on in WDFW. Managers have been fed lies about wolves having no impact and not causing problems and they must be realizing by now they have some wolf loving bios dressed in sheep's clothing. Managers must know who is promoting and being untruthful about wolves by now. There will eventually be some changes in personnel within WDFW due to this wolf fiasco. Either the WDFW will move farther toward Conservation Northwest or back towards hunters.

I think the elections in November will have a large influence on which direction is taken.  :twocents:
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Re: Wolves kill another cow, Smackout Pack suspected
« Reply #46 on: October 11, 2012, 12:24:13 PM »

If we can get all hunters and gun owners to vote, we can make a difference in our state.  Every day I run into hunters and gun owners that are not aware of the critical issues that face us as a group nationally, in our state, and locally.  Help educate those that don't know what is going on, and definitely inform them who they need to vote for this November.  Ignorance about these issues is as much of threat to us as apathy.
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Re: Wolves kill another cow, Smackout Pack suspected
« Reply #47 on: October 11, 2012, 01:28:53 PM »


If we can get all hunters and gun owners to vote, we can make a difference in our state.  Every day I run into hunters and gun owners that are not aware of the critical issues that face us a group nationally, in our state, and locally.  Help educate those that don't know what is going on, and definitely inform them who they need to vote for this November.  Ignorance about these issues is as much of threat to us as apathy.

 :yeah: :yeah: :yeah: I let everyone know (not just hunters) what is going on.
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Re: Wolves kill another cow, Smackout Pack suspected
« Reply #48 on: October 12, 2012, 02:13:10 PM »
Everybody I run into I tell them to join HW and WFW and to keep tabs on what is going on in our state.
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Re: Wolves kill another cow, Smackout Pack suspected
« Reply #49 on: October 12, 2012, 11:14:54 PM »
I recieved this link from WDFW when they responded to the letter I sent.....I am sure I am not the only one but I thought I'd post it here.


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Re: Wolves kill another cow, Smackout Pack suspected
« Reply #51 on: October 13, 2012, 10:39:50 AM »
I think they realize they have a huge problem and the wolves a recovering faster then they thought they would. They just dont want to admit it.
Does anyone else find the fact that this whole thing has been touted as a "recovery"? For decades the wolves have been gone, or at the very least "far and few between". WDFW have been working on this wolf recovery for not that long, always saying that all these wolves are naturally migrating here. :chuckle:

 My question is why have wolves, after decades of been virtually non existant, all of a sudden make a beeline for all these different locations in Washington?

 Have they started migrating here in numbers because WDFW all of a sudden have started a "recovery"? Seems to me the majority of these wolf sightings started roughly the same time as this so called recover plan was suggested................hmmmmm. :chuckle:

Don't quote me on this cause my memory is hazy on this subject, but I recall reading a year or two ago multiple articles discussing increased wolf activity in and around Skagit Valley Provincial Park, Manning Provincial Park, and then over in the eastern Okanagan. I don't recall what the reason was for the perceived increase in wolf population. Wolf activity, or lack thereof between Manning and the eastern Okanagan was considered consistent with prior years.

In my opninion, It seems like wolf activity in the northern Cascades is directly related to increased activity north of the border. Over in the forgotten part of the state, I'm not sure whether most of the wolves are pouring in from Canada in the eastern Okanagan, or the Idaho panhandle.

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Re: Wolves kill another cow, Smackout Pack suspected
« Reply #52 on: October 14, 2012, 06:54:12 PM »
I've been working in Pend Oreille County for 3 years, before that the Okanogan Valley.  I have friends in the Ellensburg/Yakima areas too. ALL of these locations, and all of Eastern WA for that matter, have increasing numbers of wolves.  Call me a cynical *censored*, but I believe the biologists purposely underestimate the numbers of wolves that are out there. 
Our big game hunting opportunities are going to go by the wayside.  When the elk, moose, deer, sheep, etc., are gone, then my guess is the wolves that haven't been focusing on beef primarily, will do so.  Hell there isn't enough big game to go around as it is, and in a couple years the numbers of game animals will decrease  exponentially!  I'm pissed that Washington is making the same mistakes that MT and ID have already learned from, and I believe that there are already too many wolves in our state.  I haven't seen one, but am frequently seeing sign in the woods.  So WDFW doing nothing for the most part, just shooting a few of the wedge pack "supposedly", and just studying the issue is just a bad idea. :yike: I'm all for tags and open season, but that's just my opinion.  :tup:

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Re: Wolves kill another cow, Smackout Pack suspected
« Reply #53 on: October 14, 2012, 07:13:32 PM »
seriously I would think Washington would be the dumbarzes to try something so dang stupid ...Not Montana and Idaho ...Now all these animal loving whacks will be loving this ... :bash: :bash: :stup:

 


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