I almost got shot.

[KFhunter]

he got lucky is what happened, I don't play the lottery nor do I go to the casino.

someone comes at me with an AR like described here, then he'll be doing so through my crosshairs and I'll be behind the best cover I can reach in the amount of time I have before he's on me.

[Bigtine96]

whats the law on hunter harassment?

[Atroxus]

It is actually illegal to defend property with deadly force.  You can only defend human life with deadly force.  He has every right to hold an AR, but no right to claim ownership over the animals or use deadly force to kick you off property that isn't his.

Oh and the law says if you are brandishing your weapon, your intent is to use it.  He was WAY out of line.

Well done on diffusing the situation.  You handled yourself well it sounds like

I also think he was better served diffusing the situation as he did. However I think you are mistaken about the deadly force part of your post.

Here is the RCW...
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?Cite=9A.16.050

RCW 9A.16.050
Homicide — by other person — when justifiable.

Homicide is also justifiable when committed either:

     (1) In the lawful defense of the slayer, or his or her husband, wife, parent, child, brother, or sister, or of any other person in his or her presence or company, when there is reasonable ground to apprehend a design on the part of the person slain to commit a felony or to do some great personal injury to the slayer or to any such person, and there is imminent danger of such design being accomplished; or

     (2) In the actual resistance of an attempt to commit a felony upon the slayer, in his or her presence, or upon or in a dwelling, or other place of abode, in which he or she is.

If he had taken KFhunter's approach and the guy had continued advancing and/or refused to lower the weapon  I would think there would be "reasonable ground to apprehend a design on the part of the person slain to commit a felony or to do some great personal injury to the slayer" 

(Note I am not a lawyer and this is a lay-persons opinion, not intended to be legal advice)

[bassquatch]

  You did the right thing, but he's lucky he didnt confront someone who felt their life was in danger!

  If that AR muzzle would have raised one inch I would have double tapped his stupid worthless ass! 

[ctwiggs1]

Atroxus

I think you might have misunderstood what I typed.

ctwiggs1

[Dustin07]

sounds like you handled it better than I would. my buddy had a somewhat similar situation with an armed harasser this weekend and my buddy walked humbly away, as he wasn't 100% clear of what his rights were in his given situation.  I'm glad it was him and not me. I'd rather not get into a fight over pride, but do not approach me in that way with a gun. 

[boneaddict]

It can either escalate up or down.   One way isn't good for either party

[hornhunter1987]

i like the way you handled it. you let him know you were uncomfortable with the situation and it needed to change.

[arnoldmc1]

I agree with hornhunter!  Good job but should have talked with the game Warden about it.

[preacherman]

I talked to the property owner about it. He said that he would rather not have any drama, as he holds this property for the intent of future development. The AR guy was the previous owner of the property, and was in fact born in the abandoned/colapsed farmhouse that is on the property. His fear is that as he proceeds with developing the property, the AR guy might cause issues. I think he will anyways, after the few run ins I have had with him.

I called the sheriff and explained the dilemma, he  told me that his word against mine it would be hard for him to take any action unless one of us had called and he had arrived during the confrontation. Doubtful he would as AR guy has called the sheriff on me multiple time in the last two years, and last year the sheriff said if he called again to report trespassing on property that was no longer his, he would charge him with false report. So I guess this was him taking it into his own hands. The Sheriff did tell me that if he pulls that stunt again I should level my weapon on him and demand that he puts his in the dirt, the sheriff said if he does not, he has stated intent and I should proceed as "I feel is necessary."

I have taken 160-180 lbs. bucks there two years running and it is 5min. from my house. But I don't like the drama.

As far as handling myself I have dealt with several really hairy situations over the years and usually can stay pretty calm. AR to my 12ga benelli at that range, I believe that I in fact had the advantage. Only one way to find out, but let's not.

[coachcw]

with a handle like yours you got the big guy on your side.

[CAMPMEAT]

I talked to the property owner about it. He said that he would rather not have any drama, as he holds this property for the intent of future development. The AR guy was the previous owner of the property, and was in fact born in the abandoned/colapsed farmhouse that is on the property. His fear is that as he proceeds with developing the property, the AR guy might cause issues. I think he will anyways, after the few run ins I have had with him.

I called the sheriff and explained the dilemma, he  told me that his word against mine it would be hard for him to take any action unless one of us had called and he had arrived during the confrontation. Doubtful he would as AR guy has called the sheriff on me multiple time in the last two years, and last year the sheriff said if he called again to report trespassing on property that was no longer his, he would charge him with false report. So I guess this was him taking it into his own hands. The Sheriff did tell me that if he pulls that stunt again I should level my weapon on him and demand that he puts his in the dirt, the sheriff said if he does not, he has stated intent and I should proceed as "I feel is necessary."

I have taken 160-180 lbs. bucks there two years running and it is 5min. from my house. But I don't like the drama.

As far as handling myself I have dealt with several really hairy situations over the years and usually can stay pretty calm. AR to my 12ga benelli at that range, I believe that I in fact had the advantage. Only one way to find out, but let's not.

Seems like I gave you the best answer................out of all posts on here about it.

[Yelm hunter]

On what grounds are you suggesting the cops are called on?  He has the right to be carrying an AR or most any other type of gun for that matter.  And to be protective of his fellow neighbors property is not a bad thing if he does not recognize the owner or permission granted.

The Neighbor was Tresspassing!! He also probably had a Loaded AR on a motorized Vehicle!! He was Harassing a Hunter which is Illegal!!!

[preacherman]

There is a law against harassing a hunter? What is the RCW on that? that is a tidbit of info that I would like to tuck away!

[lokidog]

There is a law against harassing a hunter? What is the RCW on that? that is a tidbit of info that I would like to tuck away!

I think this is it, quick google search...  RCW 77.15.210