Author Topic: scope fogged (Read 12407 times)

Fishaholic · « **on:** October 23, 2012, 05:20:55 PM »

so while hunting in eastern wa my scope fogged up so i have been thinking about putting iron sights on my rem 700. i got to looking and sights and there better priced then i thought. has anyone else switched from a scope to iron sights?? i live in grays harbor were the longest shot you will make is 200 yards. plus i do alot of brush hunting. any advice?

Huntbear · « **Reply #1 on:** October 23, 2012, 05:23:38 PM »

is your barrel drilled and tapped for open sights?

?? IF I remember right, it is about 25-35.00 a hole to drill and tap, plus the sights...

SemperFidelis97 · « **Reply #2 on:** October 23, 2012, 05:25:58 PM »

Buy a better scope

lokidog · « **Reply #3 on:** October 23, 2012, 05:26:59 PM »

Put a tip-off scope mount on there, and buy a better scope.

lazydrifter · « **Reply #4 on:** October 23, 2012, 06:20:49 PM »

The nice thing about a scope is you don't have to carry binoculars

lazydrifter · « **Reply #5 on:** October 23, 2012, 06:22:10 PM »

Just kidding. Problem is as you get older your eyes get worse. I think your best bet is to buy a different scope. Buy a used Leupold. Problems over.

lokidog · « **Reply #6 on:** October 23, 2012, 07:14:43 PM »

Quote from: Murman on October 23, 2012, 06:41:31 PM

New scope and see through-rings.

I think the tip-off keeps the scope a little lower than this style.

lokidog · « **Reply #7 on:** October 23, 2012, 09:23:07 PM »

Quote from: Murman on October 23, 2012, 08:35:53 PM

Quote from: lokidog on October 23, 2012, 07:14:43 PM
Quote from: Murman on October 23, 2012, 06:41:31 PM
New scope and see through-rings.

I think the tip-off keeps the scope a little lower than this style.

I have never heard of tip-off's till now. I like them. They look solid. I like that they are integrated into a single base rather than 2 independent rings like I posted above.

I've had mine on my Rem 760 30-06 since about 1978. Wasn't actually sure if they even still make them.

Fishaholic · « **Reply #8 on:** October 23, 2012, 10:43:18 PM »

the thing is i shoot better with iron sights. plus there cheaper then a scope and my savings is gone since i took this hunting trip.

JimmyHoffa · « **Reply #9 on:** October 23, 2012, 10:52:34 PM »

You can get a peep for the rear sight. Lyman makes one for model 700.

jackelope · « **Reply #10 on:** October 23, 2012, 11:06:53 PM »

At 200 yards your iron sights will cover a whole deer up. Not sure how you'd get a precise 1 shot kill with iron sights at 200 yards without just plain getting lucky. I'm not much into lucking into a kill shot.

Buy a new scope.

JoeE · « **Reply #11 on:** October 24, 2012, 09:01:58 PM »

in the Marine Corps we were making precise shots on man sized targets with iron sights out to 500 yards for the qualification course. 200 yards is easy with practice.

Fishaholic · « **Reply #12 on:** October 25, 2012, 11:24:23 AM »

Quote from: JoeE on October 24, 2012, 09:01:58 PM

in the Marine Corps we were making precise shots on man sized targets with iron sights out to 500 yards for the qualification course. 200 yards is easy with practice.

thank you very much, my first hunting rifle was a open sight fn fal. this rem 700 was my first hunting rifle with a scope on it. i think i can hit 200 yards. i can do that with my 22 hitting a pie pan and that has open sights to

CedarPants · « **Reply #13 on:** October 25, 2012, 11:26:47 AM »

I've personally found its more fun to have a scoped gun and a "brush gun" - that way you get to go gun shopping for a nice level action with iron sights

Jonathan_S · « **Reply #14 on:** October 25, 2012, 11:29:31 AM »

Quote from: jackelope on October 23, 2012, 11:06:53 PM

At 200 yards your iron sights will cover a whole deer up. Not sure how you'd get a precise 1 shot kill with iron sights at 200 yards without just plain getting lucky. I'm not much into lucking into a kill shot.

Buy a new scope.

x2 some people think iron sights are an option for longer shots but I think it's ridiculous to use them outside of the brush because, as you said, iron sights cover up a deer at any distance further than 200

Bean Counter · « **Reply #15 on:** October 25, 2012, 11:31:03 AM »

+1. Put the scope in your fireplace.

JackOfAllTrades · « **Reply #16 on:** October 25, 2012, 11:37:07 AM »

Quote from: CedarPants on October 25, 2012, 11:26:47 AM

I've personally found its more fun to have a scoped gun and a "brush gun" - that way you get to go gun shopping for a nice level action with iron sights

No hunters arsenal is complete without a scoped rifle for longer ranges and a shorter barreled lever gun for the brush! My Marlin 30-30 with irons is my backup/go-to rifle. Anyone that says they shoot better with iron sights than scope, needs more practice at the range (and in the field) with the scoped rifle.

Excercise the warrantee on your current scope, or buy a better scope.

Then buy a brush gun with iron/peep sights.

-Steve

Jonathan_S · « **Reply #17 on:** October 25, 2012, 11:39:17 AM »

Quote from: JoeE on October 24, 2012, 09:01:58 PM

in the Marine Corps we were making precise shots on man sized targets with iron sights out to 500 yards for the qualification course. 200 yards is easy with practice.

Precise shots on man sized targets? All head shots or something? I find this a bit hard to believe. Most of the 16's and M4's don't group that good at 1500 feet

Fishaholic · « **Reply #18 on:** October 25, 2012, 11:40:00 AM »

Quote from: JoeE on October 24, 2012, 09:01:58 PM

in the Marine Corps we were making precise shots on man sized targets with iron sights out to 500 yards for the qualification course. 200 yards is easy with practice.

Blacktail Sniper · « **Reply #19 on:** October 25, 2012, 11:41:37 AM »

I have a question about what happened to your scope. Generally when someone says their scope fogged-up, it means that there was moisture/condensenation inside your scope and causes a cloudy appearance when trying to look through your scope. Is this what happened?

If this the case, your scope has a leak and will need repaired or replaced otherwise you will have this happen again.

If however, by fogging-up, you mean moisture/condensation formed on the outside of your scopes lenses, and could be cleared by wiping them off, then a good set of scope covers like Butler Creek will do wonders to help prevent that. And they are about the same cost as a throw-away type, cheap scope.

Fishaholic · « **Reply #20 on:** October 25, 2012, 11:46:17 AM »

its fogged on the inside and i can hardly see any thing threw it.

Blacktail Sniper · « **Reply #21 on:** October 25, 2012, 11:46:47 AM »

What brand?

snowshoes22 · « **Reply #22 on:** October 25, 2012, 11:47:35 AM »

Iron sights will work fine out to 200 yards. I have harvested my last 4 Eastside Mule deer with iron sights. every one a one shot kill. I don't see why they wouldn't work on the west side.

Fishaholic · « **Reply #23 on:** October 25, 2012, 11:49:29 AM »

thats what im trying to say, were i hunt most of the time its only 50 yards. alot of swamps around were i hunt

Wildsau · « **Reply #24 on:** October 25, 2012, 11:50:09 AM »

In that case, only shooting 50 yards, go to Lyman Peap Sights. You can shoot, and hit, real well, out to 400 or 500 meters; if your eyes sre good enough.

JoeE · « **Reply #25 on:** October 25, 2012, 06:24:59 PM »

Quote from: Jonathan_S on October 25, 2012, 11:39:17 AM

Quote from: JoeE on October 24, 2012, 09:01:58 PM
in the Marine Corps we were making precise shots on man sized targets with iron sights out to 500 yards for the qualification course. 200 yards is easy with practice.

Precise shots on man sized targets? All head shots or something? I find this a bit hard to believe. Most of the 16's and M4's don't group that good at 1500 feet

The USMC marksmanship program is widely documented. EVERY SINGLE MARINE that goes through basic training has to hit a man sized target CONSISTENTLY with iron sights at 200, 300 and 500 yards.

grousetracker · « **Reply #26 on:** October 25, 2012, 06:38:06 PM »

1st the scope is ruined, either send it back or buy a new one. if you cant afford a new one and the gun came with sights then use them, but keep the shots closer. you will always be a more precise shooter with optics but its your choice and goodluck. THE MILITARY USES METERS NOT YARDS.

JoeE · « **Reply #27 on:** October 25, 2012, 07:38:14 PM »

Actually the military uses yards. But what do I know about it. Here's a link to the known distance course.

http://www.usmcweapons.com/the-m16a2-qualification-course/

columbiaman · « **Reply #28 on:** October 26, 2012, 08:47:28 AM »

Quote from: Murman on October 23, 2012, 06:41:31 PM

New scope and see through-rings.

nice

jaymark6655 · « **Reply #29 on:** October 26, 2012, 09:58:55 AM »

Quote from: Jonathan_S on October 25, 2012, 11:29:31 AM

Quote from: jackelope on October 23, 2012, 11:06:53 PM
At 200 yards your iron sights will cover a whole deer up. Not sure how you'd get a precise 1 shot kill with iron sights at 200 yards without just plain getting lucky. I'm not much into lucking into a kill shot.

Buy a new scope.

x2 some people think iron sights are an option for longer shots but I think it's ridiculous to use them outside of the brush because, as you said, iron sights cover up a deer at any distance further than 200

What kind of sights are you using!?
AR style peep sight is the width of a man at 500 yards, can't imagine it would cover a whole deer at 200.

Fishaholic · « **Reply #30 on:** October 29, 2012, 07:46:56 PM »

well i got some factory sights off another rem 700 that my dad had i his gun smith"extras" so that's good. i get to hunt extended buck now!!!!! i was going to use my shotgun but now i don't have to.

watch out bucks I'm back in business!!!!!

skagitsteel · « **Reply #31 on:** November 01, 2012, 10:51:52 PM »

clean your scope with shaving cream before you go hunting. If you are hunting in rainy weather about every other hunt you need to reapply. This works well for binoculars too! I keep my scope wiped down with shaving cream and a neoprene cover over it until i'm ready to shoot. Shot a bear in the rain this year after a long hike, totally clear. Last week had a buck walk in front of me at 80 yards in the pouring down rain 5 min before legal shooting light. Was in a 2 point min unit and was able to easily see that it was a spike even in low light conditions in the rain (with the naked eye all I could see is was a shadow that looked like a deer).

madmack76 · « **Reply #32 on:** November 01, 2012, 11:01:53 PM »

treat them with dish soap treat it like a wax put on light let it haze up and wax off

csaaphill · « **Reply #33 on:** November 01, 2012, 11:33:50 PM »

If iron sights is what you want then get em. Personally I like a scope, but mine fogs too so will invest eventually in a new scop.

Deep Forks · « **Reply #34 on:** November 04, 2012, 04:39:37 AM »

You can buy a good gaurunteed scope, Vortex crossfire or Redfield for under $150 in a 2x7 or 3x9 and you can hunt brush and longer shots. Get a tip one pcs base and add open sights as well. You won't be sorry, you will if you go with only open sights. Remember scope covers, butler creek work well.

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