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Re: Blacktail / Whitetail hybrid? Pics added!
« Reply #30 on: October 25, 2012, 02:22:43 PM »
The Right antler looks almost like its a Moose Black tail cross.....     :chuckle:
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Re: Blacktail / Whitetail hybrid? Pics added!
« Reply #31 on: October 25, 2012, 02:25:30 PM »
I didn't know there is moose on the pennisula?
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Re: Blacktail / Whitetail hybrid? Pics added!
« Reply #32 on: October 25, 2012, 05:53:11 PM »
A friend of mine is a biologist for fish and game.  He explained to me that mule deer are closely related to black tail and are not a hybrid.  Black tail and white tail hybrids are called bench legs, and are found around the cascade crest on occasion where black tail and white tail ranges overlap.  I imagine that they are also found wherever Columbia whitetail can mix with blacktails.  One reason he says that hybrids are uncommon is that the flight response for the two deer are different and when they interbreed the offspring generally has a hard time avoiding predators due to them having a screwed up flight response.  Some deer "stot" and some run, but they can't try to do both at once and expect to survive.

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Re: Blacktail / Whitetail hybrid? Pics added!
« Reply #33 on: October 25, 2012, 07:19:39 PM »
A friend of mine is a biologist for fish and game.  He explained to me that mule deer are closely related to black tail and are not a hybrid.  Black tail and white tail hybrids are called bench legs, and are found around the cascade crest on occasion where black tail and white tail ranges overlap.

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Re: Blacktail / Whitetail hybrid? Pics added!
« Reply #34 on: October 25, 2012, 08:04:03 PM »
A friend of mine is a biologist for fish and game.  He explained to me that mule deer are closely related to black tail and are not a hybrid.  Black tail and white tail hybrids are called bench legs, and are found around the cascade crest on occasion where black tail and white tail ranges overlap.  I imagine that they are also found wherever Columbia whitetail can mix with blacktails.  One reason he says that hybrids are uncommon is that the flight response for the two deer are different and when they interbreed the offspring generally has a hard time avoiding predators due to them having a screwed up flight response.  Some deer "stot" and some run, but they can't try to do both at once and expect to survive.

No, you got that mixed up. The deer people call benchlegs are a cross between mule deer and blacktail deer. Not whitetail.


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Re: Blacktail / Whitetail hybrid? Pics added!
« Reply #35 on: October 25, 2012, 08:20:21 PM »
A friend of mine is a biologist for fish and game.  He explained to me that mule deer are closely related to black tail and are not a hybrid.  Black tail and white tail hybrids are called bench legs, and are found around the cascade crest on occasion where black tail and white tail ranges overlap.  I imagine that they are also found wherever Columbia whitetail can mix with blacktails.  One reason he says that hybrids are uncommon is that the flight response for the two deer are different and when they interbreed the offspring generally has a hard time avoiding predators due to them having a screwed up flight response.  Some deer "stot" and some run, but they can't try to do both at once and expect to survive.

No, you got that mixed up. The deer people call benchlegs are a cross between mule deer and blacktail deer. Not whitetail.

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Re: Blacktail / Whitetail hybrid? Pics added!
« Reply #36 on: October 25, 2012, 08:29:14 PM »
could of been an offspring of somebodys pet they brought back from the eastside seen that happen alot when i was in high school.
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Re: Blacktail / Whitetail hybrid? Pics added!
« Reply #37 on: October 25, 2012, 08:46:51 PM »
About 8 to 9 years ago, Cant exactly remember the exact year. My first trip with the cousins.. My oldest cousin shot a (Blacktail/bench/ Maybe whitetail cross?? Who knows).. It was  5x4 with eye guards, so I guess you could say it was a 6x5.. Every point came off the main beam just like a white tail.. The deer was older though.. had almost no teeth and some of the points looked like broken fingers, none over 5 to 6 inches long, 16 inches wide too.. We were hunting in the Northeastern portion of West Klickitat, Might of actually been in Gray back.. Im thinking it was just an age regression thing but hey, I've heard some stories about them Whitetails moving west faster than people think!!

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Re: Blacktail / Whitetail hybrid? Pics added!
« Reply #38 on: October 25, 2012, 10:14:04 PM »
A friend of mine is a biologist for fish and game.  He explained to me that mule deer are closely related to black tail and are not a hybrid.  Black tail and white tail hybrids are called bench legs, and are found around the cascade crest on occasion where black tail and white tail ranges overlap.  I imagine that they are also found wherever Columbia whitetail can mix with blacktails.  One reason he says that hybrids are uncommon is that the flight response for the two deer are different and when they interbreed the offspring generally has a hard time avoiding predators due to them having a screwed up flight response.  Some deer "stot" and some run, but they can't try to do both at once and expect to survive.
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Jdc are you messin with us?  Or did you translate what your biologist friend said incorrectly?

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Re: Blacktail / Whitetail hybrid? Pics added!
« Reply #39 on: October 26, 2012, 06:52:41 AM »
Thats a nice animal. A real trophy for sure. Congrats.
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Re: Blacktail / Whitetail hybrid? Pics added!
« Reply #40 on: October 26, 2012, 06:53:02 AM »
Thats a nice animal. A real trophy for sure. Congrats.
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